Compton Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Where's Rashed? Taking the photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Compton said: Where's Rashed? Taking the photo? Rashed? Normally our small teams played against teams with players that looked like that picture now we are that team, I am ready for November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 8 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said: Team looks fit and ready #2017recruiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechee89 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 9 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said: Team looks fit and ready Never thought we'd ever have a group this tan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 9 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said: Team looks fit and ready 1) Definitely don't miss Neufeld and Gillman 2) L-R: Goodwin, AD, Foreman, Roby (in front), Johnson, Bishop, Santos, Graves, French, ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 9 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said: Team looks fit and ready Stop talking about sh$&# that isn't 2017 recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 31 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: 1) Definitely don't miss Neufeld and Gillman 2) L-R: Goodwin, AD, Foreman, Roby (in front), Johnson, Bishop, Santos, Graves, French, ???? Bess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 The ripple effect of Holtmann taking the Buckeyes job and Butler replacing Holtmann might put some recruits back on the market really late in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 1 hour ago, brianstl said: The ripple effect of Holtmann taking the Buckeyes job and Butler replacing Holtmann might put some recruits back on the market really late in the game. That is possible and I know you can not do anything about the Butler coach leaving at this time but it sure seems unfair to do this to any team in June. I get in April but June? - like I said I know nothing can be done about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 On 5/16/2017 at 11:40 AM, 615Billiken said: Is there any indication we are after Coleby? Coleby is headed to Western Kentucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 2:19 PM, mechee89 said: Never thought we'd ever have a group this tan. If by "tan" you mean "ripped" I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Not that this is a surprise, but looks like we can close the book on 2017 recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 38 minutes ago, SLURadioBoy said: Not that this is a surprise, but looks like we can close the book on 2017 recruiting. Indeed. Thanks for making it official. 205 pages and I'm exhausted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 In Ford I trust, and since that is the way the coach wants to use the scholarship good for Aaron. I recognize that Aaron worked hard and earned the scholarship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealTalk Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 With the ending of this recruiting class having been clearly signaled, I feel somewhat concerned about the seemingly philosophical belief that a true point guard is not needed on this roster.We have a nice stable of hybrids with upside,but no one besides Bishop who looks to distribute.Aaron will fill his role admirably,but he is not the answer. Drivers,slashers and shooters tend to be at their best when not burdened with the extra responsibility of running the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 3 hours ago, RealTalk said: With the ending of this recruiting class having been clearly signaled, I feel somewhat concerned about the seemingly philosophical belief that a true point guard is not needed on this roster.We have a nice stable of hybrids with upside,but no one besides Bishop who looks to distribute.Aaron will fill his role admirably,but he is not the answer. Drivers,slashers and shooters tend to be at their best when not burdened with the extra responsibility of running the offense. Did Graves leave the program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 8 hours ago, RealTalk said: With the ending of this recruiting class having been clearly signaled, I feel somewhat concerned about the seemingly philosophical belief that a true point guard is not needed on this roster.We have a nice stable of hybrids with upside,but no one besides Bishop who looks to distribute.Aaron will fill his role admirably,but he is not the answer. Drivers,slashers and shooters tend to be at their best when not burdened with the extra responsibility of running the offense. I know people will disagree with me, but rarely in the modern college game does a kid dribble the ball up the floor, stop near the three point arc, look around, and decide who to distribute the ball to. That may have been the role of a point guard in the 60s, 70s, maybe 80s, but that's not what happens now. Watch a tape of any college game from last season and tell me how many times that happens in a game. You will probably be shocked to find out that the answer is very rarely. When it does happen, fans typically complain that it doesn't seem as if the team has an offensive plan. In the modern game, someone brings the ball down the court and immediately distributes it to a player on the wing at which time the team's offensive scheme kicks in involving the ball being rotated around the floor in a way that hopefully results in a high percentage shot. In this system, used by almost everyone, at least three or four players touch the ball and are expected to try to distribute the ball before a shot is taken. The most a "true" point guard does nowadays is help make sure that a team breaks the press, but even that is a team function. I know its not a popular opinion on this board, but craving a true point guard is an outdated thing given the way offenses are run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: I know people will disagree with me, but rarely in the modern college game does a kid dribble the ball up the floor, stop near the three point arc, look around, and decide who to distribute the ball to. That may have been the role of a point guard in the 60s, 70s, maybe 80s, but that's not what happens now. Watch a tape of any college game from last season and tell me how many times that happens in a game. You will probably be shocked to find out that the answer is very rarely. When it does happen, fans typically complain that it doesn't seem as if the team has an offensive plan. In the modern game, someone brings the ball down the court and immediately distributes it to a player on the wing at which time the team's offensive scheme kicks in involving the ball being rotated around the floor in a way that hopefully results in a high percentage shot. In this system, used by almost everyone, at least three or four players touch the ball and are expected to try to distribute the ball before a shot is taken. The most a "true" point guard does nowadays is help make sure that a team breaks the press, but even that is a team function. I know its not a popular opinion on this board, but craving a true point guard is an outdated thing given the way offenses are run. Nailed it.. look at the NBA with Russ, Wall, Steph, IT, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: I know people will disagree with me, but rarely in the modern college game does a kid dribble the ball up the floor, stop near the three point arc, look around, and decide who to distribute the ball to. That may have been the role of a point guard in the 60s, 70s, maybe 80s, but that's not what happens now. Watch a tape of any college game from last season and tell me how many times that happens in a game. You will probably be shocked to find out that the answer is very rarely. When it does happen, fans typically complain that it doesn't seem as if the team has an offensive plan. In the modern game, someone brings the ball down the court and immediately distributes it to a player on the wing at which time the team's offensive scheme kicks in involving the ball being rotated around the floor in a way that hopefully results in a high percentage shot. In this system, used by almost everyone, at least three or four players touch the ball and are expected to try to distribute the ball before a shot is taken. The most a "true" point guard does nowadays is help make sure that a team breaks the press, but even that is a team function. I know its not a popular opinion on this board, but craving a true point guard is an outdated thing given the way offenses are run. Good post. And to repeat what has been stated before, Coach Ford has gone public (thru a Frank C interview) that he will use Roby, Goodwin and Bishop as his point guards by committee. We are fine. When Graves is eligible, he may or may not join that group. Ford defined Graves on this radio show as a great shooter who can play both guard positions. So Coach isn't necessarily looking at Graves to be his lead point guard. And at the end of the season, my guess is that many MBM's will be shocked at the significant number of minutes Hines has accumulated. It won't be as many as last season, but he won't be only mop up duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Good post. And to repeat what has been stated before, Coach Ford has gone public (thru a Frank C interview) that he will use Roby, Goodwin and Bishop as his point guards by committee. We are fine. When Graves is eligible, he may or may not join that group. Ford defined Graves on this radio show as a great shooter who can play both guard positions. So Coach isn't necessarily looking at Graves to be his lead point guard. And at the end of the season, my guess is that many MBM's will be shocked at the significant number of minutes Hines has accumulated. It won't be as many as last season, but he won't be only mop up duty. I'm sorry, but if Hines plays any significant role this year then we will not be the team I am hoping we will be. I don't have any problem with giving him the excess scholarship, but if he takes minutes from Goodwin, Bishop, Roby or Graves we will not be the team this Board anticipates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I'm just not sure there are enough minutes to go around if Ford sticks to his typical strategy of an 8 man rotation with a 9th guy to play based on foul trouble/matchups. Somebody has to ride the bench. It won't be a knock on their talent level. Who those 8/9 guys are, I have no clue. Ford's rotation might go pretty deep in November and December, but come mid-January, I have to think Ford will want to narrow down his rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, bauman said: I'm sorry, but if Hines plays any significant role this year then we will not be the team I am hoping we will be. I don't have any problem with giving him the excess scholarship, but if he takes minutes from Goodwin, Bishop, Roby or Graves we will not be the team this Board anticipates. factor in what slu13 said and yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macallan 18 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 If Hines plays anything more that cursory mop-up minutes we are in BIG trouble. Not a cut on Aaron, just a fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Maybe Ford is playing the long game for future walk ons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusam Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Frankie Hughes is transferring to Duquesne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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