ACE Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, OkieBilliken said: Wear a cloth mask when you call me that. Apparently it was the patriotic thing to do: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2020/07/20/trump-calls-mask-wearing-patriotic-tweets-photo-wearing-one/?sh=4a425b51cbe9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieBilliken Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, ACE said: Most other teams that season managed to do it and avoid the super spreaders. Well that’s not quite right. Many teams lost players/games/etc for positive tests, symptomatic or otherwise. I think NC State lost a national championship in baseball because of it. I promise this isn’t a defense of Travis. He probably needs to go. If they fire him tomorrow, I’m fine with it. As long as we have a freaking plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Ford made a decision. It likely tanked the season. And it may have tanked his legacy in terms of success. ACE and brianstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 40 minutes ago, OkieBilliken said: Uh huh. Shutting down schools and the economy was great. I recommend a monthly booster. It’s good for the heart. I hear ya. I'm not advocating for the lock downs. But it was a big deal at SLU. To publicly flaunt the rules of your employer is bad. Bad Decision to break rules + Bad On Court Results = (should) get fired without buy out. Also we've been told if only they didn't get sick that would've been the year. It was all bad luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieBilliken Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, TheA_Bomb said: I hear ya. I'm not advocating for the lock downs. But it was a big deal at SLU. To publicly flaunt the rules of your employer is bad. Bad Decision to break rules + Bad On Court Results = (should) get fired without buy out. Also we've been told if only they didn't get sick that would've been the year. It was all bad luck. I don’t necessarily disagree. I just don’t know that you can legally tie the event to the outbreak and if what happened is as you described, they should have fired him or at least suspended him then. If they did nothing then, I don’t see them taking action now. I’m afraid if they want him out, they gotta pay the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, OkieBilliken said: I don’t necessarily disagree. I just don’t know that you can legally tie the event to the outbreak and if what happened is as you described, they should have fired him or at least suspended him then. If they did nothing then, I don’t see them taking action now. I’m afraid if they want him out, they gotta pay the man. You're probably right. If they did try to fire for cause these things usually go to a settlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I’m fine with hangin banners of games we played hard in NextYearBill and slufan13 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Fire Ford. Fire him now. Fire him tomorrow. slufan13 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 hours ago, slufan13 said: I thought they played well. To me that's different than being happy they played hard. Maybe I'm splitting hairs here I was just happy I didn’t want to turn it off at halftime. I look forward to these games all week long and it kills me to be an angry mess by Halftime. Being the glutton for punishment I am I can’t bring myself to turn it off. I want May and Ford gone but I’m going to try and enjoy any small victory I can this year. We are officially at rock bottom. David King, slufan13, gabriel and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 11 hours ago, thunderdan said: I've got a Cricut machine. I could, easily, make shirts for anyone who wants one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Rehashing the Covid party is torpedoing the thread and reads like crazy talk two years later 2010andBeyond, AGB91 and gabriel like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 hours ago, gobillsgo said: Ford’s recruiting post-NIL is very comparable to Sodie. He was a far superior recruiter pre-NIL, which makes you wonder what he was doing to stand out that he can’t do now. I believe only the top tier players were getting paid before NiL. Now they all got their hand out his recruiting line is obsolete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: I believe only the top tier players were getting paid before NiL. Now they all got their hand out his recruiting line is obsolete LOL if you don't believe Ford was paying players here, I've got a condo in Florida to sell you. JMM28 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: LOL if you don't believe Ford was paying players here, I've got a condo in Florida to sell you. Where is your condo and how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, billikenfan05 said: LOL if you don't believe Ford was paying players here, I've got a condo in Florida to sell you. Ive always wanted a condo in Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieBilliken Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 hours ago, billiken_roy said: Ive always wanted a condo in Florida Speaking as a resident of the free state of Florida, it’s nice down here. It’s getting pretty crowded though. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 17 hours ago, OkieBilliken said: Well that’s not quite right. Many teams lost players/games/etc for positive tests, symptomatic or otherwise. I think NC State lost a national championship in baseball because of it. I promise this isn’t a defense of Travis. He probably needs to go. If they fire him tomorrow, I’m fine with it. As long as we have a freaking plan. What I said is absolutely right: "Most other teams that season managed to do it and avoid the super spreaders." SLU had one of the longest pauses in college basketball, as it ran through most of the team and several players having lingering respiratory effects for quite a while. You said this earlier "I have a hard time criticizing anyone who tried to get around Covid restrictions " Well, that's exactly the approach that was taken and it didn't turn out so well. Besides, this is not about getting "around restrictions," this should not be some culture warrior BS, this was a health issue. Imagine there were no "restrictions" at the time, most reasonable people (not the lunatic fringe) should have recognized that there were increased chances of getting sick around that time, and to not take reasonable precautions was... well, quite foolish. SLUMS81 and slufan13 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieBilliken Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ACE said: What I said is absolutely right: "Most other teams that season managed to do it and avoid the super spreaders." SLU had one of the longest pauses in college basketball, as it ran through most of the team and several players having lingering respiratory effects for quite a while. You said this earlier "I have a hard time criticizing anyone who tried to get around Covid restrictions " Well, that's exactly the approach that was taken and it didn't turn out so well. Besides, this is not about getting "around restrictions," this should not be some culture warrior BS, this was a health issue. Imagine there were no "restrictions" at the time, most reasonable people (not the lunatic fringe) should have recognized that there were increased chances of getting sick around that time, and to not take reasonable precautions was... well, quite foolish. Completely disagree. Teams all over the country dealt with loss of players and cancellation of games. There was a D1 school near me that cancelled their entire athletic year, all sports. We probably should have done that to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, OkieBilliken said: Completely disagree. Teams all over the country dealt with loss of players and cancellation of games. There was a D1 school near me that cancelled their entire athletic year, all sports. We probably should have done that to be safe. When you knowingly violate your employers guidelines, you are being insubordinate. That’s the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: When you knowingly violate your employers guidelines, you are being insubordinate. That’s the issue. Agree but even if not true he's still gotta go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, OkieBilliken said: Completely disagree. Teams all over the country dealt with loss of players and cancellation of games. There was a D1 school near me that cancelled their entire athletic year, all sports. We probably should have done that to be safe. You can "disagree" all you want, but it doesn't make it true. FACT: In D1 hoops, "Most other teams that season managed to do it and avoid the super spreaders." You don't have to "cancel the season" to be safe, just take some basic precaution. We saw the result of not doing so. slufan13 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 7:48 PM, willie said: I am not sure where you got the Biondi story. Never heard anything like this. Crews was national coach of the year. How do you not hire him? May had no choice. You don’t essentially fire the national coach of the year. May had a choice. He made the wrong one. You don’t get a pass because you were unwilling to make an unpopular decision with the local media. That is why you hire an AD in the first place. There were plenty on here who were not happy with the decision at the time. cheeseman and TheA_Bomb like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David King Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 58 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: When you knowingly violate your employers guidelines, you are being insubordinate. That’s the issue. Why do you hate America?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 hours ago, ACE said: What I said is absolutely right: "Most other teams that season managed to do it and avoid the super spreaders." SLU had one of the longest pauses in college basketball, as it ran through most of the team and several players having lingering respiratory effects for quite a while. You said this earlier "I have a hard time criticizing anyone who tried to get around Covid restrictions " Well, that's exactly the approach that was taken and it didn't turn out so well. Besides, this is not about getting "around restrictions," this should not be some culture warrior BS, this was a health issue. Imagine there were no "restrictions" at the time, most reasonable people (not the lunatic fringe) should have recognized that there were increased chances of getting sick around that time, and to not take reasonable precautions was... well, quite foolish. Maybe the fact that the head coach knowingly flaunted the rules put in place resulted in other more severe restrictions being placed on the program and that had a direct effect on the season being a failure. Just saying. slufan13 and TheA_Bomb like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 16 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: LOL if you don't believe Ford was paying players here, I've got a condo in Florida to sell you. It’s easy to be a “recruiter” when you’re part of the 15-20% with a bag. Now the bag is legal and everyone has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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