TheA_Bomb Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Dear Fellow MBMs, We are the most ardent fans of SLU Athletics in general and men's basketball specifically. It is clear many of us feel that the current Athletic Department is failing and the outlook for the basketball team is poor. Therefore, the time to seek a change of Athletic Director and subsequent change of MBB coach is now to be positioned to hire at the end of the season. This effort is not a personal vendetta against Chris May or Travis Ford, it is based on performance. We the fans do have power and if we work together we can influence those with greater influence and decision making power on the direction of SLU Athletics. If we share input, information and cooperate in the endeavor it will increase our chances of success. Here's a proposed plan of action: Steps for AD Change (MBB Coach change to follow): 1. Contact AD May and request he resign. 2. If he refuses to resign then follow up with the President, Board of Trustees and SLU Sponsors a. Outline the failures of AD and the basketball team b. bad basketball equals bad investment for sponsors 3. If the above is unsuccessful a. contact media b. start social media campaign c. other protests/actions TBD Tasks to Complete: A. Please provide input on other possible steps or how to maximize impact in this thread B. Draft emails detailing our grievances C. Share key contacts to target in this campaign D. Determine a method to collaborate (I recommend we work in Google Drive where we can collectively work on drafts and share information) We are not muckrakers reacting to emotional whims, it has taken years of under achievement to bring us to this point. We can continue to suffer and complain about it or we can organize and act. I'm a man of action, are you? If so let's join together and bring about needed change. Sincerely, The A Bomb BillsThrills, gobillsgo and TaLBErt 3 Quote
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Amazing. We are the new Richmond. Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted December 1, 2023 Author Posted December 1, 2023 If you'd like to stay anonymous but still help just contact me directly on this site. I'll keep your input to myself. I'm willing to put a face to this action. I know I flame a lot and joke a lot on the message board but I am a serious adult with a serious job, and skills in organizational change, leadership and planning. I did take action in the past and May called me directly so I am confident if we work together we can make an impact. Quote
BLIKNS Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 The only thing that matters this year is the A-10 tourney plain and simple Hopefully we get Parker healty and playing , Bradley get his waiver, and Magassa eligible. Big wishes I know.. nothing else will matter.. What happens if we get one roll, and win the A-10 tournament. Even with say a .500 record . We have had success there before.. A goal would be achieved, would this be a successful season getting to the NCAA tournament?? Quote
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, BLIKNS said: The only thing that matters this year is the A-10 tourney plain and simple The problem is that we have been good enough maybe 1 year of Ford's tenure where this hasn't been the case. Our aspirations should be a regular chance at an At-Large bid. Edit: I know you said this year, but you could've said that any of the last few years. Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted December 1, 2023 Author Posted December 1, 2023 @BLIKNS thanks for the response. I disagree that winning the A10 cures the issue. See the other thread regarding the poll. There are legitimate issues in the AD. Winning 3 games of 4 games in a very bad A10 tournament isn't going to cure. SLU isn't doing a lot of things that other schools our size do. If you only follow SLU Athletics look at what some other programs are doing. MBB is the biggest issue but it isn't the only issue. BillsThrills 1 Quote
BLIKNS Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Last few years I was drinking the Blue Kool Aid, had high hopes, even thought Sweet Sixteen dreams . This year have 0 expectations... BillsThrills 1 Quote
SLUMedBilliken15 Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Let's try this! It worked out for Richmond! RiseOfTheBillikens 1 Quote
billikenfan05 Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, BLIKNS said: Last few years I was drinking the Blue Kool Aid, had high hopes, even thought Sweet Sixteen dreams . This year have 0 expectations... that’s not a good thing slufan13 and TheChosenOne 2 Quote
milwaukeebill Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Hire Ben McCollum. thetorch and stmdragons 2 Quote
billikenfan05 Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, SLUMedBilliken15 said: Let's try this! It worked out for Richmond! I mean it kinda did Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted December 1, 2023 Author Posted December 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, SLUMedBilliken15 said: Let's try this! It worked out for Richmond! This is in the other protests/actions TBD category. Let's start with the free actions first. I'm used to using a guideline for escalation of actions. We start with the easier and just ask then go from there if necessary. BillsThrills 1 Quote
dlarry Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Unfortunately I think how this season is going to play out will do the work for you. Come February when attendance is in the 2000’s and the record is below 500 change will be the only option: (I am still hoping for a successful season I just don’t know how thats possible) How far up the ladder it goes is the only question. Quote
Soderball Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 1 hour ago, BLIKNS said: The only thing that matters this year is the A-10 tourney plain and simple Hopefully we get Parker healty and playing , Bradley get his waiver, and Magassa eligible. Big wishes I know.. nothing else will matter.. What happens if we get one roll, and win the A-10 tournament. Even with say a .500 record . We have had success there before.. A goal would be achieved, would this be a successful season getting to the NCAA tournament?? The problem with this is that Ford is just a bad coach. It would be great to have an avenue to get rid of this guy while not just losing, losing, losing. This guy brought ineligible players. He made zero accommodations for any injuries(in the past having one guy get hurt has not ruined the team as has been the case repeatedly under Ford) .. I can go on. Can this guy. Get him out of here. He is Jim Crews. billikenblue 1 Quote
Soderball Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, BLIKNS said: Last few years I was drinking the Blue Kool Aid, had high hopes, even thought Sweet Sixteen dreams . This year have 0 expectations... And the team sucked. Not even top 100. No NCAA, No NIT, No Nothin'. Bad. A sub-100 team is not a good team, particularly at $2,500,000 Ford's most hyped years still resulted in bad teams. Any year that we can't make one of the tournaments is a BAD YEAR. 100 teams get in. Stop making excuses for this guy. He makes enough on his own. billikenblue 1 Quote
VeniceMenace Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, dlarry said: Unfortunately I think how this season is going to play out will do the work for you. Come February when attendance is in the 2000’s and the record is below 500 change will be the only option: (I am still hoping for a successful season I just don’t know how thats possible) How far up the ladder it goes is the only question. Early in what amounted to Grawer’s final year someone at a game said, “he’s being given just enough rope to hang himself.” Big Grawer fan but he was right. David King 1 Quote
dlarry Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: Early in what amounted to Grawer’s final year someone at a game said, “he’s being given just enough rope to hang himself.” Big Grawer fan but he was right. That seems to be what is playing out this year. I was a fan of Grawer too but change was needed and it seems the same or true now. VeniceMenace 1 Quote
Soderball Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 46 minutes ago, dlarry said: That seems to be what is playing out this year. I was a fan of Grawer too but change was needed and it seems the same or true now. Grawer's last team was legitimately full of freshmen and had talent. Ford is starting 3 seniors, a 6th-year junior, and a sophomore. and he had just made the NIT finals in 3/4 of the years before that. Finished in second and third multiple years in a TOUGH midwestern cities conference loaded with Louisville, Marquette, so on. Ford has never finished above 4th in an A10 long past its prime. When Grawer started, SLU was about to go D2, when Ford started, he was paid seven figures and began planning work on the Champions Center. You really comparing? TheBand and AGB91 2 Quote
billikenfan05 Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 At the end of the day I don't want this to be a "May and Ford SUCK, fire them" movement. I want this to be pointed and evidence based movement. Ford has had some good seasons and some bad luck, no doubt. But when you look at this year, is this what you expect as the floor for a program that pays their coach $2.5 million a year? Is this dysfunctional a$$ offseason you expect from an AD and head coach who spend as much as they do on their basketball program. Softball has won the A10 regular season more recently than Basketball and they don't even have a pressbox. They have to carry all their sh*t from Chaifetz. TheA_Bomb and Soderball 2 Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted December 1, 2023 Author Posted December 1, 2023 @billikenfan05 is correct, personally I'm past the complaining on a message board. Thanks to @3star_recruit for helping me realize that it was getting to be too much. So I'm ready to act in a coherent, organized, methodically manner to bring about change. So what I'm soliciting is your help with ideas on things we can do, key contacts to notify of our discontent and/or enlist in our efforts and others to join and be unified. I am asking you to respond here with those ideas and PM the contacts or insider information. Who is in the know, with influence? We need to let them know our AD is underperforming relative to other programs and we need to change then change MBB coach. If we end up buying a billboard so be it. They're about $5000 for four weeks. I'd rather save that for Christmas or NIL for the next coach. Here's the BoT, anyone know anyone on this list or know someone that knows them that can influence them? I plan to reach out to them if May doesn't resign. Current Board Members Joseph Conran, Chair (’67, ’70) Partner, Husch Blackwell LLP Marian V. "Bo" Mehan, Vice Chair (’74,’82) Partner and Estate Planning and Probate Department Co-chair, Lewis Rice Robert Adkisson Vice President, Division Chief Engineer, The Boeing Company Akberet Boykin-Farr (’93, ’95, ’02) Vice President for Diversity and Social Responsibility, Emerson George Brill (’85) Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Talisen Technologies Inc. Thomas M. Buchanan (’77) Managing Partner, Winston & Strawn LLP Richard Chaifetz (’75) Founder, Chairman and CEO of ComPsych Corporation; Founder and Chairman of Chaifetz Group, LLC. W. Winston Chan (’81, ’83) Chief Executive Officer, Corvusys Inc. Robert J. Ciapciak (’79, ‘07) Partner, Edward Jones Jerome “Jerry” Dwyer, M.D. (’79, ’85) Owner/Cardiologist, St. Louis Cardiology Center Jimmie Edwards (’78, ’81, Hon.D ’14) Attorney, Lashly & Baer, P.C. Eric Engler Executive Vice President and Chief of Staff, Ascension Michael Garanzini, S.J. (’71) President, Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities Andrew Hoog (’98) Founder and Board Member, NowSecure Chang Soo Huh (’77) Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, GS Group Edward B. Ignaczak Executive Vice President Sales and Marketing (retired), Express Scripts John Johnson (’90) President, Silver Eagle Distributors Darryl Jones (’77) Managing Partner, D&D Concessions Arindam Kar (’98) Shareholder, Polsinelli Law Firm James P. Kavanaugh (’86) Chief Executive Officer, World Wide Technology Inc. Jessie Knight, Jr. (’72) Managing Director, Knight Angels Jim Lally (’90) President and Chief Executive Officer, Enterprise Financial Services Corporation Tim Lannon, S.J. Formation Director, USA Midwest Province of the Society of Jesus Patrick Lo Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, NETGEAR Virginia McDowell President and Chief Operating Officer (retired), Isle of Capri Casinos Inc. Michael C. McFarland, S.J. Treasurer, USA Northeast Province of the Society of Jesus Timothy McMahon, S.J. ('80) Rector, Jesuit Center Michael McMillan (’97) President and CEO, Urban League of Metropolitan St. Louis Joseph McShane, S.J. President Emeritus, Fordham University Jacqueline Drury Pollvogt (’85, ’88) Senior Vice President and General Counsel, Drury Development Corporation Rex A. Sinquefield (’67) President, Show Me Institute Patrick Sly (’77) Former Vice Chair, SLU Board of Trustees; Former Executive, Emerson Philip Steele, S.J. (’71) Rector, Jesuit Community of Saint Louis University Holden Thorp Editor-in-Chief, Science Martha Uhlhorn Owner, Gourmet to Go and La Bonne Bouchee Wholesale Bakery Trudy Busch Valentine (’80) Philanthropist Perry Vyas Owner, SKAPS Industries Rob Vitale (’88) President and Chief Executive Officer, Post Holdings University President Fred P. Pestello serves as an ex-officio voting member of the board. Danielle Uy, Vice President and General Counsel, is board secretary. Trustee Emeriti SLU also has trustee emeriti, former trustees who do not make motions, vote or hold office, but are entitled to all other privileges of board members. Current trustee emeriti are: J. Joe Adorjan, John Alberici, Barry Beracha, Thomas H. Brouster Sr., Aloys H. Litteken, Nancy Siwak and Francis A. Stroble. Quote
Soderball Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, TheA_Bomb said: @billikenfan05 is correct, personally I'm past the complaining on a message board. Thanks to @3star_recruit for helping me realize that it was getting to be too much. So I'm ready to act in a coherent, organized, methodically manner to bring about change. So what I'm soliciting is your help with ideas on things we can do, key contacts to notify of our discontent and/or enlist in our efforts and others to join and be unified. I am asking you to respond here with those ideas and PM the contacts or insider information. Who is in the know, with influence? We need to let them know our AD is underperforming relative to other programs and we need to change then change MBB coach. If we end up buying a billboard so be it. They're about $5000 for four weeks. I'd rather save that for Christmas or NIL for the next coach. It takes an all-of-the-above approach. Ultimately it is going to take the big money from the boosters to get him out; especially if the information regarding a revolving contract is true. Complaining from fans does matter; nothing would get Ford out of here faster than 3000 people in the building boo'ing him. That's the cold hard truth. Quote
wgstl Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, BLIKNS said: The only thing that matters this year is the A-10 tourney plain and simple A) this is inexcusable b) we dont have a good track history in the A10T either. JMM28 1 Quote
dlarry Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, Soderball said: Grawer's last team was legitimately full of freshmen and had talent. Ford is starting 3 seniors, a 6th-year junior, and a sophomore. and he had just made the NIT finals in 3/4 of the years before that. Finished in second and third multiple years in a TOUGH midwestern cities conference loaded with Louisville, Marquette, so on. Ford has never finished above 4th in an A10 long past its prime. When Grawer started, SLU was about to go D2, when Ford started, he was paid seven figures and began planning work on the Champions Center. You really comparing? No but change was needed then and change is needed now Quote
BrettJollyComedyHour Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Holden Thorp Editor-in-Chief, Science This is a real person? I thought he was a politician from Frasier. DeSmetBilliken, Slu let the dogs out? and NextYearBill 3 Quote
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