Taj79 Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 As of today, 624 of the 1707 transfer portal names entered on Verbal Commits have yet to find landing spots elsewhere. I added that number to the first page of this thread as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: you are saying in area high schools it is normal for rosters to turn over 60-80% every year because the underclassmen players are being paid by high school boosters to switch schools? sorry, i have not seen that and dont agree with your assessment. we have seen the stars move to private schools near the end of their high school days but that is not an every school situation or anywhere near the almost complete roster turnover we are seeing this year in college D1 basketball and football. It is obviously not on the same level as college, but a lot of HS basketball players especially elite ones change schools during their careers. Most often players go from a local HS to a prep school that plays a "national" schedule of other high end teams. Recent local examples: John Bol is leaving CBC for Sunrise Prep Tarris Reed Jr & Damien Mayo leaving Chaminde for Link. SLU examples: Momo Cisse moved from Hillcrest to Putnam Science Academy Gibson Jimerson went to both St Christopher's and Benedictine in Richmond before finishing his HS career at Montvedre Academy in Florida I'd actually guess that if you Google the rosters for Sunrise, Link, and Montvedre most or all their players started their basketball careers elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Taj79 said: As of today, 624 of the 1707 transfer portal names entered on Verbal Commits have yet to find landing spots elsewhere. I added that number to the first page of this thread as always. So how many of them will wind up not playing anywhere next year? It seems like at this point these players are not wanted, and they had best jump at any opportunity… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 Agree. Still hoping on a PG transfer however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: It is obviously not on the same level as college, but a lot of HS basketball players especially elite ones change schools during their careers. Most often players go from a local HS to a prep school that plays a "national" schedule of other high end teams. Recent local examples: John Bol is leaving CBC for Sunrise Prep Tarris Reed Jr & Damien Mayo leaving Chaminde for Link. SLU examples: Momo Cisse moved from Hillcrest to Putnam Science Academy Gibson Jimerson went to both St Christopher's and Benedictine in Richmond before finishing his HS career at Montvedre Academy in Florida I'd actually guess that if you Google the rosters for Sunrise, Link, and Montvedre most or all their players started their basketball careers elsewhere. actually i dont consider that near the volume we have seen this year in college basketball and if it was indeed the same ratio, high school transfers in sheer numbers would be far more than what we saw in college this year simply because there are more high school players. i would expect there to always be transfers in high school, but not at the rate we saw in college basketball this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: actually i dont consider that near the volume we have seen this year in college basketball and if it was indeed the same ratio, high school transfers in sheer numbers would be far more than what we saw in college this year simply because there are more high school players. i would expect there to always be transfers in high school, but not at the rate we saw in college basketball this year. I'm not at all trying to argue HS transfers are on the same level as college transfers. I'm just saying that HS transfers happen too & are happening more often than in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 By my count, 156 of the remaining transfers are listed as PG. Of course, a lot of them are from lesser colleges and seem to be freshmen. Nothing jumped out at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 3 hours ago, billiken_roy said: actually i dont consider that near the volume we have seen this year in college basketball and if it was indeed the same ratio, high school transfers in sheer numbers would be far more than what we saw in college this year simply because there are more high school players. i would expect there to always be transfers in high school, but not at the rate we saw in college basketball this year. The # of transfers in college right now is inflated for multiple reasons, the biggest two being Covid eligibility exceptions and the uncertainties surrounding the portal - it's only been accessible like this for a couple years and it will inevitably die down when people see how it doesn't always work out. Give it two years and I'll bet we don't see half as many people entering the portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 CJ Kelly now transferring out at Umass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I guess the Bonnie NIL check bounced. This will be his 4th commitment in 3 years. Obviously he is concerned about finding a school that meets his academic goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownwolves Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 AND he never considered you girls. Tear, maybe two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 56 minutes ago, brownwolves said: AND he never considered you girls. Tear, maybe two. The tears will be in your eyes come March after the Bonnie’s first round A10 tournament defeat. It appears never considered St. B either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, brownwolves said: AND he never considered you girls. Tear, maybe two. and you gloat over this? sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 15 hours ago, HoosierPal said: I guess the Bonnie NIL check bounced. This will be his 4th commitment in 3 years. Obviously he is concerned about finding a school that meets his academic goals. Maybe the NIL check DID clear, and he just took the money and ran. What legally would stop him? These deals are NOT pay for play, after all, so if he leaves with the money, what’s to stop him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 7 hours ago, brownwolves said: AND he never considered you girls. Tear, maybe two. I don’t think anyone on this board wanted to face the Iron 5 again, but outside of that we are not really anti-Bonnie, nor do we want any excess ill on that program. Let’s face it, a super tall, low defense, stretch 4 is not really Mark Schmidt’s style of play anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord Elrond said: Maybe the NIL check DID clear, and he just took the money and ran. What legally would stop him? These deals are NOT pay for play, after all, so if he leaves with the money, what’s to stop him? Any NIL contract of a sizable amount would be structured on a month-by-month basis and give both parties the right to terminate at any time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 4 hours ago, AnkielBreakers said: I don’t think anyone on this board wanted to face the Iron 5 again, but outside of that we are not really anti-Bonnie, nor do we want any excess ill on that program. Please do not speak for all of us. (I’m kind of joking) most annoying fan base on a10 twitter imo. Big time BFIB energy. Love beating them and love seeing sad capn beer I will not be answering questions at this time. NoCoBillsFan, stmdragons and rgbilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 3 hours ago, BilliesBy40 said: Any NIL contract of a sizable amount would be structured on a month-by-month basis and give both parties the right to terminate at any time Maybe. Hard to say what’s in the contract without reading it. I’m sure whoever gave the money for the NIL would want some sort of protection, but whoever negotiated the deal for the player would want to minimize reasons to terminate the deal. And of course, the contract couldn’t contain anything about that player playing for a certain school without getting into NCAA trouble. The player would seem to have a lot of leverage in this negotiation after all, probably more so than the person giving out the NIL, so who knows what the final contract says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Dayton has big time BFIB energy. Bona are Brewers fans or any NL central flavor of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Lord Elrond said: Maybe. Hard to say what’s in the contract without reading it. I’m sure whoever gave the money for the NIL would want some sort of protection, but whoever negotiated the deal for the player would want to minimize reasons to terminate the deal. And of course, the contract couldn’t contain anything about that player playing for a certain school without getting into NCAA trouble. The player would seem to have a lot of leverage in this negotiation after all, probably more so than the person giving out the NIL, so who knows what the final contract says. NILs are a new thing and I am absolutely certain that, at this time, there is no standard structure for a NIL contract. I assume there will be a fair degree of differences between specific contracts when compared with one another. Perhaps in time a more or less standard NIL contract will develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Collins a natural for a sauce & or seasoning concern. "pass the <your brand here>, Yuri Collins gets an assist from <your brand here> whenever he grills for the team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Joe Reece to Duquesne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, thetorch said: Joe Reece to Duquesne Reece isn't a guy I necessarily wanted at SLU, but I hate it when St Louis guys end up in the A10. I feel like they regularly level up their performance when the play SLU. On the plus side, it seems like a decent fit for Duquense and a decent landing spot for Reece. Better A10 teams are good for SLU even if this just moves Duq from bad to not so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Reece isn't a guy I necessarily wanted at SLU, but I hate it when St Louis guys end up in the A10. I feel like they regularly level up their performance when the play SLU. On the plus side, it seems like a decent fit for Duquense and a decent landing spot for Reece. Better A10 teams are good for SLU even if this just moves Duq from bad to not so bad. Who else beside Mike Lewis did that? Even then I think he was just a good player. Same with Courtney Stockard. Levi just wasn't very good, except for literally that one game in KC when he was at K State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Littlebill said: Who else beside Mike Lewis did that? Even then I think he was just a good player. Same with Courtney Stockard. Levi just wasn't very good, except for literally that one game in KC when he was at K State This is probably my selective memory bias then because I was at that game in KC, so I have it in my head that Lewis, Courtney Stockard, and Levi Stockard all killed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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