Billikens4life Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 I think its a bit harsh to criticize Bell, especially after last night. He really didn't have much opportunity, and when he was in the game I can't remember him getting the ball in spots to score. Also, I was thoroughly impressed with him against Seton Hall. He showed he can certainly hang and can make a difference if he gets his chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, JohnnyJumpUp said: I'll add Bell to that list, he needs to use his weight inside, knock some motherfockers around. He could be added to the list. It's time for Goodwin and French to start getting in the player's grill if they sense he is taking plays off. A lot of our players haven't realized yet the focus and effort it takes to succeed at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 It took Ian Vouyoukas over a year to get to the place where some of you want Bell to be in game 5. billiken_roy, glazedandconfused, SLU_Lax and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewsorlose Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 hours ago, mrjoelabs said: We haven't played defense since game 1. Not even in the exhibition. I don't know whats going on but it better get figured out in 48 hours or it will be a bloodbath saturday. I love collins and jimmer connection. Goodwin is a stud...and French of course. But this D is a mess Ken Pom disagrees. Our defense is 87th. Our offense is 198th. Carry on though. RiseOfTheBillikens and Billikens4life like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 hours ago, billikenbill said: I heard that Hankton banged knees with Bell in practice and got the bad end of it. Should just be a temporary absence. Sounds like pain and not an injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Sounds like pain and not an injury You wanna go knee to knee with Bell, see how you feel afterwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said: Ken Pom disagrees. Our defense is 87th. Our offense is 198th. Carry on though. More insight into this claim. Yes we are 87th in points allowed per possession but 4 of the 5 teams we've played so far are really bad offensively. We've played the 283rd strength of schedule so far and in terms of offenses we've played against we have played the 306th hardest collection of offenses so far. Seton Hall is 15, Eastern Wash is 197, Valpo is 210, High Point is 341, FL Gulf Coast is 300 So our defense has been good but we've only really played one decent offense. That being said, an issue we are having is cleaning up our own boards. We're only getting about 2//3rds of rebounds on the defensive end (59 of 185). This is the lowest % of the decade and the only year that is close is the 14-15 season where no one over 6'7 was playing more than 15 min a game (Gillman/Manning both played some but not a lot) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, jimbofive said: Said this to the wife about this time in the game last night. Can obviously shoot it, but not just a 3 point bomber. Being a good size (actual NBA 2 guard size) and playing pretty good defense in his fifth game as a freshman, I see the NBA in his future as well. Great last name, too. Absolutely best in class. Reminds me of Tyler Herro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Crewsorlose said: Ken Pom disagrees. Our defense is 87th. Our offense is 198th. Carry on though. The defense has regressed from last season and the offense has improved according to Pomeroy. The biggest reason the defense has regressed, IMO, is the 1-3-1 isn't effective without Foreman at the top of it. SLU_Lax likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 1 minute ago, brianstl said: The defense has regressed from last season and the offense has improved according to Pomeroy. The biggest reason the defense has regressed, IMO, is the 1-3-1 isn't effective without Foreman at the top of it. Hargrove will be good for that, but not for a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, jimbofive said: Said this to the wife about this time in the game last night. Can obviously shoot it, but not just a 3 point bomber. Being a good size (actual NBA 2 guard size) and playing pretty good defense in his fifth game as a freshman, I see the NBA in his future as well. Great last name, too. Absolutely best in class. Hope we get all 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Get taped, pop a pain reliever and play. Certain players have a tendency to overuse injuries as an excuse not to play when they can. It happens a lot when there’s pressure to perform but it hurts the entire team. Plenty of players have gotten injured mid game and still played. It’s called grit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Get taped, pop a pain reliever and play. Certain players have a tendency to overuse injuries as an excuse not to play when they can. It happens a lot when there’s pressure to perform but it hurts the entire team. Plenty of players have gotten injured mid game and still played. It’s called grit Sounds like you have personal experience feeling pressure to perform and needing to pop a pill in order to do so. Sounds credible. rgbilliken, CBFan, jimbofive and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Jimmy Bell is playing as much as he is not because he is adding value to the team currently, but because we are a very undersized team who needs to bring him up the learning curve as quickly as possible. In an ideal world, he would not be playing more than 5-8 minutes a night maximum. But it's crucial to our success this year (and next) that we add some length, rebounding and defense at that position. Whoever said Santos and Gordon leaving is really hurting the team this year was spot on. billikenbill and dennis_w like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 21, 2019 Author Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Get taped, pop a pain reliever and play. Certain players have a tendency to overuse injuries as an excuse not to play when they can. Ya, im sure Hankton saw High point and freaked out about the challenge AGB91 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikens4life Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Get taped, pop a pain reliever and play. Certain players have a tendency to overuse injuries as an excuse not to play when they can. It happens a lot when there’s pressure to perform but it hurts the entire team. Plenty of players have gotten injured mid game and still played. It’s called grit Nothing better than a person on a message board calling out athletes (anonymously, by the way) for not having "grit" moytoy12 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Get taped, pop a pain reliever and play. Certain players have a tendency to overuse injuries as an excuse not to play when they can. It happens a lot when there’s pressure to perform but it hurts the entire team. Plenty of players have gotten injured mid game and still played. It’s called grit you are a very bad poster. CBFan, ACE and AGB91 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: Sounds like you have personal experience feeling pressure to perform and needing to pop a pill in order to do so. Sounds credible. Advil and play. It’s not rocket science. A banged knee isn’t an excuse not to play. Just saying this board should take note of the few players who play tapped “Yuri” and the ones who seem to always be injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: Sounds like you have personal experience feeling pressure to perform and needing to pop a pill in order to do so. Sounds credible. 1 minute ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: Advil and play. It’s not rocket science. A banged knee isn’t an excuse not to play. Just saying this board should take note of the few players who play tapped “Yuri” and the ones who seem to always be injured I certainly am not agreeing with you. I was making a veiled erectile dysfunction joke. I'll place my trust in the doctors/trainers who have actual medical knowledge of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Last night: Jimerson/Goodwin: 18/27 FGs 66.7%, 6/13 3pt 46.2%, 44 total points Rest of the team: 9/27 FGs 33.3%, 1/9 3pt 11.1%, 23 total points Rants on the season: Has is kind of a liability on offense because he isn't good enough to make up for his abysmal FT shooting. Ditto for JBJ, but with even worse non-FT offense. Perkins making less than 1/3 of his shots isn't going to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 No more excuses for ft either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Last night: Jimerson/Goodwin: 18/27 FGs 66.7%, 6/13 3pt 46.2%, 44 total points Rest of the team: 9/27 FGs 33.3%, 1/9 3pt 11.1%, 23 total points Rants on the season: Has is kind of a liability on offense because he isn't good enough to make up for his abysmal FT shooting. Ditto for JBJ, but with even worse non-FT offense. Perkins making less than 1/3 of his shots isn't going to cut it. JGood’s shot looked so dang pure in the first half last night. Him making shots is starting to become a trend. I’m liking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 a trend that I thought ran through his pre SLU history and part of the reason we pursued him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewsorlose Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 2 hours ago, brianstl said: The defense has regressed from last season and the offense has improved according to Pomeroy. The biggest reason the defense has regressed, IMO, is the 1-3-1 isn't effective without Foreman at the top of it. That's true. Just different from the claim made above. Our defense has gone from great to good. Our offense from near putrid to below average. More room to improve on offense though. Kenpom takes into account the strength of opponent. Shutting down High Point doesn't get you the same credit as shutting down UNC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Just read Carter's report card and sounds like the Hightower move was specific to try and send as signal to Yuri because Ford wasn't happy with his defense. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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