Bobby Metzinger Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 4/6/2017 at 8:57 AM, WVBilliken said: I know it happens all the time. Paying Mr. Porter the highest assistant coach salary in the history of Mizzou basketball kind of smells given his credentials are hardly eye-popping. But, he does have two very talented sons. Perry Watson all over again. Watson made the Rose(s) bloom early in Ann Arbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Here is my question about what Martin did with Porter - what do you do when the kid leaves for the NBA the year after? do keep Porter or how do you keep the other assistants happy once the kid leaves? I know you want the kid but you better know how to handle the possible headache in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Porter is a legitimate college coach and has been so for nearly a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, STL Hoops Insider said: Porter is a legitimate womens college coach and has been so for nearly a decade. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: Fixed So mizzou is solid when they play the uconn women's team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Here is my question about what Martin did with Porter - what do you do when the kid leaves for the NBA the year after? do keep Porter or how do you keep the other assistants happy once the kid leaves? I know you want the kid but you better know how to handle the possible headache in the future. Well, there is a second son Jontay, a 6'9" junior in HS and he is a 4 star. So Mizzou has one for a year (or two) and several with the younger son. So I think the 3 year contract is covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 55 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Well, there is a second son Jontay, a 6'9" junior in HS and he is a 4 star. So Mizzou has one for a year (or two) and several with the younger son. So I think the 3 year contract is covered. Jontay is a top 30 recruit. And they have two young brothers after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 So no word yet I could find on Tilmon being released. I assume picket comes with. Dead period is in a few days so dick move by Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Porter is a legitimate college coach and has been so for nearly a decade. I was having one of those annoying evenings where nothing is going right, but this post made me laugh so now all is good. Thanks for the humor STL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, keyser soze said: So mizzou is solid when they play the uconn women's team? Nope, he was a women's coach. We have yet to determine what the Uconn women's team is made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said: So no word yet I could find on Tilmon being released. I assume picket comes with. Dead period is in a few days so dick move by Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: Yea seriously. I'm seeing players left and right getting releases within the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Heard Gabe on radio this afternoon. He said Tilmon was absolutely going to Missouri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, willie said: Heard Gabe on radio this afternoon. He said Tilmon was absolutely going to Missouri. Some scuttlebutt going around that the NCAA might be looking into it. You're stupid if you think there wasn't talk while he was under an NLI with Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said: Some scuttlebutt going around that the NCAA might be looking into it. You're stupid if you think there wasn't talk while he was under an NLI with Illinois You keep insulting respected posters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 24 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: You keep insulting respected posters... Who am I insulting? In general you're stupid if you think mizzou getting Tilmon was clean and following the rules. Willie didn't say any of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Glorydays2013 said: Who am I insulting? In general you're stupid if you think mizzou getting Tilmon was clean and following the rules. Willie didn't say any of that It is not difficult to see why an East St. Louis kid would suddenly have increased interest in Mizzou without Cuonzo doing anything overly dirty. Illinois fired the coach he committed to and Mizzou hired a coach who has a great reputation in East St. Louis, so the situation is much different than it was when Tilmon signed with Illinois and even then it seemed apparent he was waivering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I've never heard anybody question Cuomo Martin's integrity. He's a standup guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: It is not difficult to see why an East St. Louis kid would suddenly have increased interest in Mizzou without Cuonzo doing anything overly dirty. Illinois fired the coach he committed to and Mizzou hired a coach who has a great reputation in East St. Louis, so the situation is much different than it was when Tilmon signed with Illinois and even then it seemed apparent he was waivering. While I do agree with what you are saying, the strange thing about the situation is Martin was hired and not much was heard from Tilmon. After Underwood and Walker visited Tilmon, Derek Piper made it seem he talked to his mom and that Tilmon was staying, Frank tweeted he talked to people close to him and he plans on staying with Underwood and Tilmon was impressed with Underwood. Then after Martin visited his sister at East St. Louis, a bit later he requests out of his NLI. Now I don't know what overly dirty is but I would be surprised if there wasn't communication between the two while he was still signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGMAN618 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 On 4/6/2017 at 8:08 AM, CBFan said: Thanks for checking in, I think JT could be a difference maker at SLU because of Elliot Welmer's injury. Elliot is SLU's tallest player and showed he could changes shots with his blocking ability and I think JT could play that role. Does Illinois have other bigs like JT? For Missouri I still believe that coach Martin was the best coach at this time that they could find. Rebuilding starts with players and coach Martin appears to have the ability to recruit good players. I think similar to coach Ford coach Martin has Missouri fans excited about the program again. Also similar to coach Ford is that coach Martin can recruit but suspect in game day coaching. It is possible that coach Martin is getting wiser with age and learning and only time will tell. After one season with coach Ford I saw improvement and those that said he could not coach were proven wrong this season. No, we are very short on big men. All we have is Finke and Black and they are both really stretch 4s but can play the post also. Kipper Nichols played some 4 this year but he is really best at the 3 spot. So we are in dire need of big men at the moment. Apparently we have reached out to Carlton Bragg and Underwood was in Kansas Saturday to see 2017 F Francesco Badocci. I will add, I am disappointed to be losing Pickett. Maybe even more than Tilmon. I think he is going to be a great college player and think he is highly underrated. SLU would be wise to try and get him if they have any ships available. It wouldn't surprise me either to see him follow Groce to Akron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: While I do agree with what you are saying, the strange thing about the situation is Martin was hired and not much was heard from Tilmon. After Underwood and Walker visited Tilmon, Derek Piper made it seem he talked to his mom and that Tilmon was staying, Frank tweeted he talked to people close to him and he plans on staying with Underwood and Tilmon was impressed with Underwood. Then after Martin visited his sister at East St. Louis, a bit later he requests out of his NLI. Now I don't know what overly dirty is but I would be surprised if there wasn't communication between the two while he was still signed. If you knew Tilmon it wouldn't seem strange at all. If you remember he went quiet around the early singing period. He has a lot of people in his ear and i am sure having an East St Louis grad now coaching at Mizzou made them rethink things. When you send your kid off to school you want to make sure they have his best interest in mind. Tilmon has played AAU ball with Porter before as well. Maybe the combination of things as well as the firing of Groce was all it took. I guess we will soon find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGMAN618 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: Dead period is in a few days so dick move by Illinois Yea, maybe. Guess what though, meeting with a new coach and publicly reaffirming your commitment, then asking out of a LOI a couple days later could be considered a dick move as well. Also, going to visit your "sister" who happens to be a principal at a signed recruits (who you desperately want) school is a dick move as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGMAN618 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Coach314 said: If you knew Tilmon it wouldn't seem strange at all. If you remember he went quiet around the early singing period. He has a lot of people in his ear and i am sure having an East St Louis grad now coaching at Mizzou made them rethink things. When you send your kid off to school you want to make sure they have his best interest in mind. Tilmon has played AAU ball with Porter before as well. Maybe the combination of things as well as the firing of Groce was all it took. I guess we will soon find out What I'm hearing is daddy all of a sudden wants him to go to Mizwho. Mom wants him to stay at UI. Also, mom is/was part of the holdup with getting the release finished. She supposedly didn't get papers signed right away. I'm not sure the validity of that, not sure what/why a parent would have to sign off on it. Just rumors I have heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 9 hours ago, CGMAN618 said: What I'm hearing is daddy all of a sudden wants him to go to Mizwho. Mom wants him to stay at UI. Also, mom is/was part of the holdup with getting the release finished. She supposedly didn't get papers signed right away. I'm not sure the validity of that, not sure what/why a parent would have to sign off on it. Just rumors I have heard He was probably under age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 9 hours ago, CGMAN618 said: What I'm hearing is daddy all of a sudden wants him to go to Mizwho. Mom wants him to stay at UI. Also, mom is/was part of the holdup with getting the release finished. She supposedly didn't get papers signed right away. I'm not sure the validity of that, not sure what/why a parent would have to sign off on it. Just rumors I have heard Let's just meet in the middle... get it done Travis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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