STLfan Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 The Billikens were 66th in the nation with 7,757 per game. We brought in 1,458 more people per game compared to last season which was the 9th largest increase in division 1. The A10 28. Dayton - 12,154 39. Xavier - 10,155 58. Temple - 8,615 66. Saint Louis - 7,757 89. Charlotte - 6,001 93. Richmond - 5,660 UMass - 4,279 Saint Joseph's - 4,197 St. Bonaventure - 3,926 Rhode Island - 3,829 Duquesne - 3,204 George Washington - 2,561 Fordham - 2,343 La Salle - 2,209 The two new additions 70. VCU - 7,622 78. Butler - 6,599 Other programs I've seen mentioned for possible expantion options. 6. Creighton - 16,665 68. Bradley - 7,640 80. Siena - 6,509 George Mason - 5,161 The State of Missouri 32. Missouri - 11,830 66. Saint Louis - 7,757 70. Missouri State - 7,050 SEMO - 2,356 Central Missouri - 2,045 Mo. Southern St. - 1,923 Mo. Western St. - 1,760 Drury - 1,714 UMKC - 1,308 http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/pdfs/2012/2012+ncaa+mens+basketball+attendance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Everyone seems to talk about getting rid of Fordham, but I think a better case could be made for getting rid of LaSalle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Everyone seems to talk about getting rid of Fordham, but I think a better case could be made for getting rid of LaSalle. I got to agree. LaSalle ranks sixth among college basketball teams in Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I wish they would give the % full. IMO that would be a better measurement for teams that are failing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Great post STLfan. You mind including the link where you found these figures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Everyone seems to talk about getting rid of Fordham, but I think a better case could be made for getting rid of LaSalle. Absolutely +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoneelse Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I wish they would give the % full. IMO that would be a better measurement for teams that are failing or not. Fordham holds about 3470, making it about two thirds full. Of course, when they make the big time, they plan to go to MSG, assuming MSG is still standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 Great post STLfan. You mind including the link where you found these figures? 2012 NCAA MEN’S BASKETBALL ATTENDANCE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 -so what is the goal for the upcoming season? if we add 1300 we are at a 9k avg playing on avg to 85% full house -9k avg to me would figure 3-5 sell outs to balance the savanah states of the schedule -ticket prices will have something to do with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Say what you want about the fashion preferences of Dayton fans, they're a loyal bunch. Hopefully, we can increase attendance another 1,000 per game next season. Winning is one piece to the program-building puzzle, but consistently being in the top 50 for attendance is another big piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 wait so whats the absolute max that can be piled in at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 wait so whats the absolute max that can be piled in at home. Xavier was deemed a sellout at 10,441, although it was also called the second-largest crowd in the history of Chaifetz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slubilliken09 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Xavier was deemed a sellout at 10,441, although it was also called the second-largest crowd in the history of Chaifetz. 10,600 is the official capacity, I assume including the boxes. 73% average attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share Posted May 14, 2012 I wish they would give the % full. IMO that would be a better measurement for teams that are failing or not. Here are the arena capacites of the A10 according to Wikipedia 13,435 - Dayton 10,600 - Saint Louis 10,250 - Xavier 10,206 - Temple 9,493 - UMass 9,171 - Richmond 9,105 - Charlotte 7,657 - Rhode Island 5,480 - St. Bonaventure 4,406 - Duquesne 4,338 - George Washington 4,200 - Saint Joseph's 4,000 - La Salle 3,470 - Fordham The new additions 10,000 - Butler 7,617 - VCU So here are the %full that everyone averaged 99.9% - Saint Joseph's 99% - Xavier 90% - Dayton 84% - Temple 73% - Saint Louis 73% - Duquense 72% - St. Bonaventure 67% - Fordham 66% - Charlotte 62% - Richmond 59% - George Washington 55% - La Salle 50% - Rhode Island 45% - UMass New Additions 100% - VCU 66% - Butler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I wish they would give the % full. IMO that would be a better measurement for teams that are failing or not. St. Joe was pretty much a sellout every game. Hagan's capacity is 4200, and they average 4197. It is historically noted as being a very tough place to play for the visitors. I'm sure they could bring in more fans with a bigger arena, but the atmosphere created with a small, packed house is one of the best in college basketball, espeically when St. Joe's is going good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ken Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not bad considering the Bills never adverstise really. I come up to St. Louis from November thru January for the holidays every year. I rarely see any type of advertising or schedules out. Just imagine how many more people would come to the games if they actually knew when the games were. I've said this before and I will say this again, they need a better tv deal, at least some merchandise in the stores and they need to lower the ticket prices. Just do a little bit of all three and keep winning and then you"ve got something. Eventually, they will become noticed. I never did understand the "Our Town, Your Team" slogan, especially when St. Louis is Cardinal Town, not to mention the Blues, the Rams and that little state university in Columbia, MO. I love going to the Fetz on game day, it has so much potential/great atmosphere, I know the Bills are a college program, but for heaven's sake, I wish they would take notes from a NBA team on how to market their program better. The Grizzlies do a great job marketing basketball in Memphis, come on down and take some notes. Memphis is a good basketball city, but not as good as St. Louis, MO. Let's go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 They keep on winning, they will keep on coming. Spoonball proved that in the 90's. I think next year we easily go up by 1000. After another dance appearance and a nice run this season, following year you'll be scrambling for a ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Billiken Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Fordham holds about 3470, making it about two thirds full. Of course, when they make the big time, they plan to go to MSG, assuming MSG is still standing. Wonder if they will go to the Barclay's center from now on - since the A10 tournament will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Found this interesting (and surprising): Southern ILL 14 (games) 46,186 (total attendance) and 3,299 (average/game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 According to the A10 site, for league games we drew a average of 8784. Not bad, about 85% of the Chaifetz was filled. The weak home OOC schedule hurt overall average attendance. Especially that string of games we had in December. Also I think it took awhile to sink in with the fans that this was not the previous season and this team had potential. Even our so called marquis game with Washington in early November I think it only drew in the high 4000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 According to the A10 site, for league games we drew a average of 8784. Not bad, about 85% of the Chaifetz was filled. The weak home OOC schedule hurt overall average attendance. Especially that string of games we had in December. Also I think it took awhile to sink in with the fans that this was not the previous season and this team had potential. Even our so called marquis game with Washington in early November I think it only drew in the high 4000. Attendance figures at a 10,600 capacity with percentage filled at the end for the 2011-12 season. Not all of the non-conference games hurt attendence last year. The AD did a great job getting people to the Texas Southern game on a Sat night, think it was Boy Scout Night. Tennessee St 11-Nov Fri, 7:30pm 6497 61% Washington 20-Nov Sun, 11am 6761 64% Portland 3-Dec Sat, 7pm 7087 67% Vermont 7-Dec Wed, 7pm 5677 54% UI-Springfield 10-Dec Sat, 1pm 5842 55% Alabama St 17-Dec Sat, 7pm 6574 62% Arkansas St 22-Dec Thurs, 7pm 7354 69% Texas Southern 27-Dec Tue, 7pm 8044 76% GW 7-Jan Sat, 7pm 9021 85% Temple 11-Jan Wed, 8pm 8760 83% Duquense 21-Jan Sat, 7pm 8656 82% St. Bonaventure 1-Feb Wed, 7pm 6346 60% Dayton 4-Feb Sat, 4pm 10414 98% Richmond 15-Feb Wed, 7pm 7459 70% Fordham 18-Feb Sat, 3pm 9173 87% Xavier 28-Feb Tue, 8pm 10441 99% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not bad considering the Bills never adverstise really. I come up to St. Louis from November thru January for the holidays every year. I rarely see any type of advertising or schedules out. Just imagine how many more people would come to the games if they actually knew when the games were. I've said this before and I will say this again, they need a better tv deal, at least some merchandise in the stores and they need to lower the ticket prices. Just do a little bit of all three and keep winning and then you"ve got something. Eventually, they will become noticed. I never did understand the "Our Town, Your Team" slogan, especially when St. Louis is Cardinal Town, not to mention the Blues, the Rams and that little state university in Columbia, MO. I love going to the Fetz on game day, it has so much potential/great atmosphere, I know the Bills are a college program, but for heaven's sake, I wish they would take notes from a NBA team on how to market their program better. The Grizzlies do a great job marketing basketball in Memphis, come on down and take some notes. Memphis is a good basketball city, but not as good as St. Louis, MO. Let's go Bills! This not fully true - not saying that they can not do a better job. There billboards up the entire season, they run ads in the Post for games and for special pricing packages, they are in Groupon, they get advertising on the radio (101.1) the enter season, they send emails to alums from time to time regarding special games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 According to the A10 site, for league games we drew a average of 8784. Not bad, about 85% of the Chaifetz was filled. The weak home OOC schedule hurt overall average attendance. Especially that string of games we had in December. Also I think it took awhile to sink in with the fans that this was not the previous season and this team had potential. Even our so called marquis game with Washington in early November I think it only drew in the high 4000. We drew 6761 for the Wash game - look up in the SLU archives or a previous post which I did not see when I posted this. The OOC schedule was not that weak - yes some of the good games we played were on the road in tourneys but you have no control over that - also the Washington team was suppose to be better than they turned out. Still the OCC home schedule had Vermont - NCAA bid, Wash - NIT bid, TNSt - NCAA bid - beat Murrary State and won their conf tourney. So, it is not like we did not play anybody at home. Also, we were coming off a 12 game win season - nobody except us were excited about us so why would they come to early games in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 This not fully true - not saying that they can not do a better job. There billboards up the entire season, they run ads in the Post for games and for special pricing packages, they are in Groupon, they get advertising on the radio (101.1) the enter season, they send emails to alums from time to time regarding special games. What about pocket schedules? Seems like the Cardinals, Blues, and Rams always have pocket schedules you can grab at banks, grocery stores, fast food joints, etc. I do not recall seeing any Billikens schedules in the past. This might be a good idea for the Bills to get word out about their games. I think half the battle is just making everyone aware of when the games are and who the Bills are playing. Another good way to do this is to hype up the season opener big time and give away magnetic schedules. If you get close to a sell out of the season opener and all of those people have schedules stuck on their fridge, it is much more likely they will go to games later in the year. I know they have done this is in the past, but I can't remember getting one in recent years (perhaps because of late arrival to the game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 What about pocket schedules? Seems like the Cardinals, Blues, and Rams always have pocket schedules you can grab at banks, grocery stores, fast food joints, etc. I do not recall seeing any Billikens schedules in the past. This might be a good idea for the Bills to get word out about their games. I think half the battle is just making everyone aware of when the games are and who the Bills are playing. Another good way to do this is to hype up the season opener big time and give away magnetic schedules. If you get close to a sell out of the season opener and all of those people have schedules stuck on their fridge, it is much more likely they will go to games later in the year. I know they have done this is in the past, but I can't remember getting one in recent years (perhaps because of late arrival to the game). I had a pocket schedule this past year - can't remember where I got it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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