crymdg2 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Shimmy out as head coach after the ladies lost to Dayton tonight. Not a huge surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The result isn't a headscratcher for me. Her record was horrible. Was she told before or during the season that she was not being retained? If so why let her coach the season at all? Or was she just unceremoniously fired after the buzzer sounded tonight? Why not just announce this tomorrow? Let her fly home with the team at least before firing her. Seems like a heartless move to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Now maybe we can get someone who will take advantage of all the RM time in the building. I wonder if Whitesell would take the job he seems like a really good coach and someone who would stay as long as it took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Had high hopes for Shimmy but she seems to have reached the Pizzotti level of mediocrity post Lisch. Maybe not Whitsell but is Bruce Pearl still looking for work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I liked shimmy as a person. She was excellent speaking in public. Actually superb. Butg watching her teams play was not good. Fundamental trainwreck. And obviously a problem communicating with the team. Lisch leaves early chased two girls away that ended up starting at a big ten school. It was time to switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I was just looking at the Women's schedule and results a couple of days ago and wondering how much more time she had left. The team had a bad year but quite a few close loses. Most of the players were coming back except for one of the better guards. She said all the right things but didn't have the ability to translate it to the court. Hopefully, they have someone in mind that can raise the program to respectable levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The result isn't a headscratcher for me. Her record was horrible. Was she told before or during the season that she was not being retained? If so why let her coach the season at all? Or was she just unceremoniously fired after the buzzer sounded tonight? Why not just announce this tomorrow? Let her fly home with the team at least before firing her. Seems like a heartless move to me. Something I had heard last year was that this was her last year on the contract and the AD did not want to eat the last year so they told her that this would be it unless the team improved. So, she knew as the year unfolded what was in store for her if there was not improvement. This is not heartless just a fair way to treat someone - give them the entire contract time to save themselves and tell them what the criteria was to do so. It was time for her to go - SLU was very patient and fair with her. She just ran off too many players and produced too few results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 -what are expectations, if any, for the wbball program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Women's basketball? Who cares ------------------- unless my daughter is playing. I know that might sound selfish and sexist but so be it. I won't lie. There isn't a woman's sport on that I will waste time on watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 We have a girl's team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Women's basketball? Who cares ------------------- unless my daughter is playing. I know that might sound selfish and sexist but so be it. I won't lie. There isn't a woman's sport on that I will waste time on watching. I enjoy watching certain lady golf professionals, not so much for the technical nature of the games. Olympic beach volleyball comes to mind as a "team" sport that's worth watching every four years. Otherwise, I can't get into women's sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDG Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Women's basketball? Who cares ------------------- unless my daughter is playing. I know that might sound selfish and sexist but so be it. I won't lie. There isn't a woman's sport on that I will waste time on watching. I can't believe they let them play at the 'fetz. there has to be 9500 empty seats at every game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 How many tears has it been since they had a team finish better than .500? Shimmy never had a winning team and Pizzoti was bad for a long time prior to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Exactly why the next coach is important. I have long maintained that the survival/benefit from the on campus facility will be the growth of the women's bball program. I predict that there will soon not be enough seats in the house to fit all those wanting to see the MBB games. The biggest growth for the athletic department will be in getting butts in the seats for the women's games. Those folks will buy concession stand items and pay to park. That will help retire the debt on the building more quickly. The Jones Dome needs modernizing and upkeep now, just a few years after the Rams come here. In ten years or so, there will be a need to upgrade our facilities as well. Having 3-5K folks coming to WBB games, which they do at Mo State quite regularly, will be good for SLU. mhg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDG Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Exactly why the next coach is important. I have long maintained that the survival/benefit from the on campus facility will be the growth of the women's bball program. I predict that there will soon not be enough seats in the house to fit all those wanting to see the MBB games. The biggest growth for the athletic department will be in getting butts in the seats for the women's games. Those folks will buy concession stand items and pay to park. That will help retire the debt on the building more quickly. The Jones Dome needs modernizing and upkeep now, just a few years after the Rams come here. In ten years or so, there will be a need to upgrade our facilities as well. Having 3-5K folks coming to WBB games, which they do at Mo State quite regularly, will be good for SLU. mhg uhhh, no. that's what the concerts are for. let the gals play at west pine where they belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Any revenue - doesn't care where it comes from - baseball, soccer, where ever - is important to the total AD. If our women's program could start drawing 2-3K then that will be a big bump in money for the AD which would help all the sports even men's BB since it could keep more of what it brings in. Bottom line, the women's program has to shoulder some of the weight and we have not had a coach lately who could make that happen. I agree, we have to get a coach who can build a program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenHudDude Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Hopefully at the end of the national search, Brian Giorgis will be on the short list. It is doubtful that they can pry him away from Marist, but I believe he could turn the program around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volfan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Hopefully at the end of the national search, Brian Giorgis will be on the short list. It is doubtful that they can pry him away from Marist, but I believe he could turn the program around. I have heard Ty Evans out of U of Alabama is meeting with Chris May as early as tomorrow about the head coaching position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I have heard Ty Evans out of U of Alabama is meeting with Chris May as early as tomorrow about the head coaching position That would be interesting. He was on Pizzotti's staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecrewwebmaster Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Wait, Shimmy was still the coach? How did she last that long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I'm just curious. What kind of salary range does this job pay? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Who is Shimmy? He sounds cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBand Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I can't believe they let them play at the 'fetz. there has to be 9500 empty seats at every game More like 10,000+. This is why the games should be played in the pavilion (where the volleyball team plays most matches) until the hoops team gains some fans. 300 people in a venue that seats 700 is a HELL of a lot better than 300 in a 10,600 seat building. It might actually get loud in the pavilion with that crowd. It will NEVER happen in the main building. It has to be hard for the team to see so many empty seats on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 @Pistol --- wait a minute. We're lookign at bringing back an assistant from a coach who might arguably be the worst in SLU history in Jill Pizzoti? How is that sense? I don't even know him and say go with the Marist guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieBilliken Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This guy is THE BEST coach in America that no one has ever heard of. With the right $$, he can be had. http://www.fgcuathletics.com/wbasketball/coaches/1347/karl-smesko/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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