slufan13 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Never understood the Mike hype personally but seems like nba guys liked his potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: Never understood the Mike hype personally but seems like nba guys liked his potential ya he's very, meh. You can get a lot of players that put up his numbers. The height thing is cool but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 https://www.instagram.com/p/C6PEnI3xdDY/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== weird, Mike Sharavjamts apparently interested in SLU. Hadn't heard him connected. johnbj14 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6PEnI3xdDY/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== weird, Mike Sharavjamts apparently interested in SLU. Hadn't heard him connected. Between Max Pikaar, whose dad played for Dayton, and Mongolian Mike, we could potentially get two family betrayals for the Arch Baron Cup on this roster! The Valley Sucks and Billiken Rich like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 He seems like a Schertz type of player, so I understand the interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilzz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, ACE said: He seems like a Schertz type of player, so I understand the interest. Yeah... I thought the same thing. 36% from 3 at 6'8". Could definitely help on the rebounding side of things. I don't remember much of him from Dayton. How was his defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Bilzz said: Yeah... I thought the same thing. 36% from 3 at 6'8". Could definitely help on the rebounding side of things. I don't remember much of him from Dayton. How was his defense? Dont let the height fool ya, he's not much of a rebounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilzz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, wgstl said: Dont let the height fool ya, he's not much of a rebounder. I mean more general height, not necessarily hanging out under the basket. With a 3 heavy offense, you'll get some deeper rebounds and general height should help. Jayson Kent went from 2.9 and 2.1 rebounds per game his sophmore and junior years to over 8 last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 So he went Dayton to San Francisco? In Schertz I trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 26 Author Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Bilzz said: I mean more general height, not necessarily hanging out under the basket. With a 3 heavy offense, you'll get some deeper rebounds and general height should help. Jayson Kent went from 2.9 and 2.1 rebounds per game his sophmore and junior years to over 8 last year. Very good point, also look at the jump in FG% for Kent in his first year with Schertz compared to his second. It's striking. I will be interested to see what Kent does next year without Schertz. I think Mongolian Mike could be a very good fit. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 20 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: I liked him at Dayton. Mongolian Mike has SLU in final list. 36% three point shooter for the Dons. Stats aren't that impressive, especially when you compare them to the other guards currently linked to SLU, but it would be interesting to see how he does in a Schertz offense. Where'd that pic come from by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 44 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Anyone have a link to this? https://www.instagram.com/p/C6PEnI3xdDY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 45 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Never understood the Mike hype personally but seems like nba guys liked his potential He really improved his numbers last year in every possible way. Become a pretty efficient scorer, cut down on the turnover rate, improved his rebounding rate, improved his steal rate and kept a really nice assist rate while being a low usage rate guy. He definitely checks a lot of boxes for what Schertz wants to do offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 22 minutes ago, brianstl said: He really improved his numbers last year in every possible way. Become a pretty efficient scorer, cut down on the turnover rate, improved his rebounding rate, improved his steal rate and kept a really nice assist rate while being a low usage rate guy. He definitely checks a lot of boxes for what Schertz wants to do offensively. He was a starter on a 22-11, NET 66 team in a competitive West Coast Conference. I don't see a down side here. But no he is not the rebounder nor rim protector I believe we still need. brianstl likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, slufan13 said: Anyone have a link to this? Didn't the photo come through for you? I know there are some gremlins in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 39 minutes ago, brianstl said: He really improved his numbers last year in every possible way. Become a pretty efficient scorer, cut down on the turnover rate, improved his rebounding rate, improved his steal rate and kept a really nice assist rate while being a low usage rate guy. He definitely checks a lot of boxes for what Schertz wants to do offensively. He was a starter on a 22-11, NET 66 team in a competitive West Coast Conference. I don't see a down side here. But no he is not the rebounder nor rim protector I believe we still need. brianstl, thetorch and Bills By 40 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 43 minutes ago, brianstl said: He really improved his numbers last year in every possible way. Become a pretty efficient scorer, cut down on the turnover rate, improved his rebounding rate, improved his steal rate and kept a really nice assist rate while being a low usage rate guy. He definitely checks a lot of boxes for what Schertz wants to do offensively. I guess going from 1.5 turnovers/game to 1.4, a 2P% of .479 to .487 (attempts up by 1 just shot), and 2.6 assists to 2.7 are technically improvements. Freet throw % improved from 68% to 83% but that's a bit misleading, as his FT/FTA went from 0.7/1 to 0.8/1. Definitely more efficient 3P shooter in his second year. Wouldn't mind seeing Big Mike in a Schertz offense but would prefer some of the other guards currently linked to SLU over him. We need more rim protection and rebounding, especially in our S5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: I guess going from 1.5 turnovers/game to 1.4, a 2P% of .479 to .487 (attempts up by 1 just shot), and 2.6 assists to 2.7 are technically improvements. Freet throw % improved from 68% to 83% but that's a bit misleading, as his FT/FTA went from 0.7/1 to 0.8/1. Definitely more efficient 3P shooter in his second year. Wouldn't mind seeing Big Mike in a Schertz offense but would prefer some of the other guards currently linked to SLU over him. We need more rim protection and rebounding, especially in our S5. He was a starter on a 22-11, NET 66 team in a competitive West Coast Conference. I don't see a down side here. But no he is not the rebounder nor rim protector I believe we still need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, dlarry said: He was a starter on a 22-11, NET 66 team in a competitive West Coast Conference. I don't see a down side here. But no he is not the rebounder nor rim protector I believe we still need. CenHudDude and dlarry like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: I guess going from 1.5 turnovers/game to 1.4, a 2P% of .479 to .487 (attempts up by 1 just shot), and 2.6 assists to 2.7 are technically improvements. Freet throw % improved from 68% to 83% but that's a bit misleading, as his FT/FTA went from 0.7/1 to 0.8/1. Definitely more efficient 3P shooter in his second year. Wouldn't mind seeing Big Mike in a Schertz offense but would prefer some of the other guards currently linked to SLU over him. We need more rim protection and rebounding, especially in our S5. His advanced stats dramatically improved in just about everyway except for assist rate and free throw rate. As for the rim protection and defense in general, we just might have to accept the fact that those aren't the skills the staff places a super high value on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 On Mongo Mike...The computer gives a thumbs up....Even though most of the numbers don't compute. The only stat on his slash line that the computer thinks is valid is the 3P shooting...scoring him at a B+ and trending up. The rest of the slash is S3 (small sample size). The computer thinks that M2 could benefit from the CJS system by improving his 2P shooting which even with a small sample size is below average. It thinks the shot selection could push his 2P average up by having him shoot closer to the rim. By making that small change , he could become an A or B 2P shooter. The problem with just looking at the raw data when it is not a full sample size is that it just isn't meaningful...ie volatile (both up and down). @Bilzz made an interesting point on Kent(ISU)in an above post. Talking about how 2 years ago his numbers weren't impressive. The computer would argue that Kent's numbers weren't impressive not because the percentages were low but that there just weren't enough shots taken anywhere on the slash line to indicate what type player he was. Low data rates don't indicate good or bad ...they indicate an unknown. When you choose an unknown, it can go either way. With ISU , they had 5 starting unknowns. CJS strength is finding players who fit and can adapt to his system. Because you are dealing with unknowns, it won't always work out but in Schertz case, he has a pretty good record of evaluating talent for his system. CenHudDude likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 9 minutes ago, brianstl said: His advanced stats dramatically improved in just about everyway except for assist rate and free throw rate. As for the rim protection and defense in general, we just might have to accept the fact that those aren't the skills the staff places a super high value on. To win 1. score 2. score some more Slu let the dogs out? likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, brianstl said: His advanced stats dramatically improved in just about everyway except for assist rate and free throw rate. As for the rim protection and defense in general, we just might have to accept the fact that those aren't the skills the staff places a super high value on. If Schertz wants him I'm on board but think there are still some other guards on SLU's radar that would make Wiz's computer even happier. I think the staff still places value on rim protection and rebounding it's just our commitments thus far have been more guard heavy. We need guys like Cam Manyawu and Elijah Jones to make up their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, HoosierPal said: I liked him at Dayton. Mongolian Mike has SLU in final list. 36% three point shooter for the Dons. This is an awful edit. Box and Won likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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