HoosierPal Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Bay Area Billiken said: Drake played an NAIA team and a D-2 team. How can that be ignored? We need The Valley to be Juan Bid. Who is ignoring those two games? They aren't part of the D1 NET resume. No one is counting those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Who is ignoring those two games? They aren't part of the D1 NET resume. No one is counting those games. Drake played no one, other than Loyola. CBS keeps posting that Drake record (25-4), which includes NAIA St. Ambrose and D-2 McKendree, which makes that Drake won-loss record look better than it really is. Perception becomes reality. If the NCAA Committee gifts Drake an At Large bid, then everyone else should be able to load up with a bunch of cupcakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, BJK said: Third place game vs Davidson! I thought the same thing. I don't support playing it, but that would be a de facto 3rd Place game. By the way, the NIT is bringing back a 3rd Place game this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, kshoe said: I’m just catching up on this thread but are people really suggesting we don’t play a game this week because they think we already have a good chance of getting in? That’s crazy talk to me. We aren’t getting in as it stands now. I think we should try and schedule two games. Memphis on Tuesday and Drake on Friday. Or something like that. Go on the road if you can. According to coach we can only play one add’l game, d/t covid scheduling restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slufan10 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: Drake played no one, other than Loyola. CBS keeps posting that Drake record (25-4), which includes NAIA St. Ambrose and D-2 McKendree, which makes that Drake won-loss record look better than it really is. Perception becomes reality. If the NCAA Committee gifts Drake an At Large bid, then everyone else should be able to load up with a bunch of cupcakes. you can choose to load up cupcakes but you better win them by double digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Slufan10 said: you can choose to load up cupcakes but you better win them by double digits. This didn't work for UNC-Greensboro two years ago and it shouldn't be allowed to work for Drake either. Bay Area Billiken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slufan10 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: This didn't work for UNC-Greensboro two years ago and it shouldn't be allowed to work for Drake either. UNCG didn't dominate every game though and couldn't beat Wofford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, Slufan10 said: UNCG didn't dominate every game though and couldn't beat Wofford I don’t know. If you have watched Drake play, they are a bit underwhelming. Bay Area Billiken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 It appears there is no one to play, other than Davidson, NET 62. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, AnkielBreakers said: I don’t know. If you have watched Drake play, they are a bit underwhelming. They are underwhelming currently. To be fair, they lost their 2 best players. They were impressive earlier in the season, albeit against cupcakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lando Griffin Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 10 hours ago, Bay Area Billiken said: It appears there is no one to play, other than Davidson, NET 62. Lets hope the A-10 steps in here and gets something scheduled, especially giving the $$$ that could come to the conference with 3 teams in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 I know Wright St, Belmont, Missouri St, etc don't really move the needle but all of those teams could have incentive to play if they think a win would get them a NIT bid. Yes ideally we could pick up a Q1 game here but we only have 2 wins against Q2 as well. Getting another Q2 game would be a win in my book. If we are truly willing to play a game, I would hope we aren't picky about it. I just don't see us getting a true needle-mover game so I'll take a Q2 game and hope the committee recognizes our willingness to play anyone anytime. BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Bay Area Billiken said: It appears there is no one to play, other than Davidson, NET 62. This should happen, preferably in Belk Gym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 The committee in the last few years has taken a "What did they try to do" approach with scheduling. Teams that went on the road and got bought, tried to schedule up, etc. were looked more highly upon than teams that played a lot of 250+ NET/RPI or D2 type games. I think that bodes well for SLU. I also think that mentality will be furthered this year in a time when teams could have packed it in and not bothered to play. SLU playing an extra game this week would help in that matter. BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 i will be shocked if we play any kind of opponent that will greatly enhance our resume. the big boys now more than ever wont play as they will attest "we have nothing to gain" and the lesser programs are all going to be significanty below our already middling NET ranking. i will actually be amazed if we even play a game this week. so the question is will we actually go to the NIT or not imo. A10Ref, SLU_Nick and Billfan7 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: i will be shocked if we play any kind of opponent that will greatly enhance our resume. the big boys now more than ever wont play as they will attest "we have nothing to gain" and the lesser programs are all going to be significanty below our already middling NET ranking. i will actually be amazed if we even play a game this week. so the question is will we actually go to the NIT or not imo. Unless there is another Covid exception, my understanding is a team can no longer opt out of the NIT. Nor do I think SLU should. If SLU doesn’t get an NCAA bid, SLU is going to be one of the First Four OUT, meaning one of the first teams on the NCAA Replacement/Wait List and a 1 or at worst 2 Seed in the NIT. This year’s 16 team NIT, with no Low Con automatic bids, will be the NIT’s strongest field in years, its strongest since the NCAA took over the NIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Im guessing Fords team has reached out to the committee about what happened since covid. If they did, and they heard positive feedback, I doubt Ford even thinks about playing another game. I don't think Ford will go without at least reaching out to the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 You can opt out of the NIT this year per this article. I would assume you'd have to use COVID as your reason though and I'm not sure the NCAA would buy that for a team like SLU where most of the team doesn't even have to be tested https://victorybellrings.com/2021/03/01/nit-format-penn-state-basketball/#:~:text=The NIT added back the,the first time since 2003.&text=The NIT does not have,truly go in any direction. "The NIT does not have a .500 record requirement, and given that teams may opt-out this year, the selection of the field could truly go in any direction" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 What about Memphis? We are in Lundardi's First Four Out. They are listed in Lunardi's Second Four Out. They are 15-7 and 3rd in the AAC. Their NET is 52. Edit: Scratch that. They still play in the AAC tournament this week. Their first game is Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUH Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, wgstl said: I'm guessing Fords team has reached out to the committee about what happened since covid. If they did, and they heard positive feedback, I doubt Ford even thinks about playing another game. I don't think Ford will go without at least reaching out to the NCAA. I may be wrong, but I do not think this is how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 1 hour ago, JMM28 said: The committee in the last few years has taken a "What did they try to do" approach with scheduling. Teams that went on the road and got bought, tried to schedule up, etc. were looked more highly upon than teams that played a lot of 250+ NET/RPI or D2 type games. I think that bodes well for SLU. I also think that mentality will be furthered this year in a time when teams could have packed it in and not bothered to play. SLU playing an extra game this week would help in that matter. -interesting, can you share examples? I think that scheduling, heck every decision, is designed to help the P5 and this would be one that didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wgstl Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, WUH said: I may be wrong, but I do not think this is how it works. No one really knows how any of this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 Maybe Loyola could do us a solid and play us even though they are already in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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