3star_recruit Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Pistol said: I was looking at NET by conference, and K-State is last in the Big XII, the only team on the wrong side of 100. I hadn't been paying attention to them. The Bradley loss is really surprising. Pitt, Marquette, and Mississippi State aren't *bad* losses but they're all below-average power conference teams this season and very winnable games. They really need this game against SLU. The fact that Bradley has losses against St. Joseph's and Northwestern is just as surprising. Bradley played some strong ball down the stretch last year, gave Michigan State everything they wanted in the tournament and returns everybody of significance. It's early. Many teams are still trying to find a rhythm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 We are at 70 in this week’s composite rankings. Current highest ranking is 36 in Kirkpatrick and the lowest ranking is 125 in ESPN’s BPI. In the top 50 of four ranking systems and outside the top 100 of two. https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjoelabs Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Kstate is 131 in NET.. we are 66. Need to win this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Eastern Wash up to 86 from 112 in the Net Rankings today. Belmont up 6 spots to 92. K. State up a few spots to 126. SLU slid 2 spots to 68 from its original Net Ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/SitePages/Home.aspx The daily updates to the Team Sheets are actually pretty nice. I retract my earlier complaint about the NCAA not updating their info enough. The Team Sheets breaks down the rest of every team's schedule into what Quad games they'll be playing, given that day's NET rankings. As of today, we'll play 7 Quad 1 games and 4 Quad 2 games the rest of the season. moytoy12 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, GBL_Bills said: https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/SitePages/Home.aspx The daily updates to the Team Sheets are actually pretty nice. I retract my earlier complaint about the NCAA not updating their info enough. The Team Sheets breaks down the rest of every team's schedule into what Quad games they'll be playing, given that day's NET rankings. As of today, we'll play 7 Quad 1 games and 4 Quad 2 games the rest of the season. -just win baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, moytoy12 said: Eastern Wash up to 86 from 112 in the Net Rankings today. Belmont up 6 spots to 92. K. State up a few spots to 126. SLU slid 2 spots to 68 from its original Net Ranking. If EW and Belmont get up to top 75, that would be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but good story from Stu and Post-Dispatch on SLU and NET rankings. https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/ncaa-s-net-rankings-could-be-a-boon-for-slu/article_65858f32-3032-58be-b66e-15a9e975806c.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Littlebill said: If EW and Belmont get up to top 75, that would be huge. Hope EWU gives zaga a good run Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, GBL_Bills said: https://extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/SitePages/Home.aspx The daily updates to the Team Sheets are actually pretty nice. I retract my earlier complaint about the NCAA not updating their info enough. The Team Sheets breaks down the rest of every team's schedule into what Quad games they'll be playing, given that day's NET rankings. As of today, we'll play 7 Quad 1 games and 4 Quad 2 games the rest of the season. Also shows that K State is an away game, not a neutral site. Which is fine w us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 @BC is close to a Q2 win now as well Moved up to #138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Littlebill said: @BC is close to a Q2 win now as well Moved up to #138 Yeah I feel pretty confident they'll break 135 by the end of the season, just by virtue of playing the other ACC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Cool site that helps us track what quadrant wins and losses we have as well as the opportunities left: https://www.bracketologists.com/team/saint-louis-billikens?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: Cool site that helps us track what quadrant wins and losses we have as well as the opportunities left: https://www.bracketologists.com/team/saint-louis-billikens?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf It is pretty cool, but the fact that they have Maryville listed as a Q4 game and not a non-DI game makes me a little skeptical of the accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 They only have the four quadrant options active, RU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: Cool site that helps us track what quadrant wins and losses we have as well as the opportunities left: https://www.bracketologists.com/team/saint-louis-billikens?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Pretty neat. Yeah, Belmont has sunk to a Q3 win, and East Wash is now ranked higher. I doubt if EWash will get their NET high enough to make it a Q2 win. A few more losses and Seton Hall might slip to Q3 also. But a loss is a loss whichever quad they are in. If Tulane makes some noise in the AAC, they could get up to Q2 win for us. Boston College should get into a Q2 position for us in their conference schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, Sheltiedave said: They only have the four quadrant options, RU. I take it you haven't clicked the link. The site has 5 options. Q1 - 4 and non-DI. They have Maryville was Q4 and actually give them a NET ranking (non DI teams aren't ranked). They show our non-DI record as 0-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracketologists Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 2:05 PM, RUBillsFan said: I take it you haven't clicked the link. The site has 5 options. Q1 - 4 and non-DI. They have Maryville was Q4 and actually give them a NET ranking (non DI teams aren't ranked). They show our non-DI record as 0-0. This has been fixed. We didn't realize that ESPN was switching teams around and the net ranking never got overwritten because they weren't D1. We are now flushing the cache before every import. RUBillsFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Bracketologists said: This has been fixed. We didn't realize that ESPN was switching teams around and the net ranking never got overwritten because they weren't D1. We are now flushing the cache before every import. Great. Now you just need to update to the Billikens logo that was introduced in 2015. Bracketologists likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracketologists Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, juniorbill76 said: Great. Now you just need to update to the Billikens logo that was introduced in 2015. Done slufanskip, RUBillsFan, Littlebill and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Up to 92 on kenpom. What’s annoying to see is Belmont and kstate still ahead of us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Duquesne and Richmond were rewarded for being undefeated. They both then lost and went from low 20’s to mid 50’s and 60’s very quickly in the NET. The NET has much more volatility to it but in the end many of the different models even out. Duquesne lost at home to UAB. Richmond lost badly at home to Radford to fall to 10-2 (Auburn is their other loss) Auburn (SLU) and San Diego St. (SLU next season) are two of the three undefeated teams left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Sorry if I am dense on this, but all the rating services rankings are meaningless, if I am correct, with regard to getting an at-large bid to the NCAA's. NET is all that matters, correct? That brings me to my actual question. There are 353 D 1 teams so it would seem like a Q1 team would be anyone above #88, with a Q2 team being between #89 and # 175 and so on. But that doesn't match up with the discussions in this thread. Is there a good definition of the cut lines between each of the Quadrants? Sorry if it is already somewhere on this Board. If so, just point me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, bauman said: Sorry if I am dense on this, but all the rating services rankings are meaningless, if I am correct, with regard to getting an at-large bid to the NCAA's. NET is all that matters, correct? That brings me to my actual question. There are 353 D 1 teams so it would seem like a Q1 team would be anyone above #88, with a Q2 team being between #89 and # 175 and so on. But that doesn't match up with the discussions in this thread. Is there a good definition of the cut lines between each of the Quadrants? Sorry if it is already somewhere on this Board. If so, just point me to it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si.com/.amp/college/2018/03/01/ncaa-tournament-quadrant-system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, bauman said: Sorry if I am dense on this, but all the rating services rankings are meaningless, if I am correct, with regard to getting an at-large bid to the NCAA's. NET is all that matters, correct? That's not exactly the case. NET is supposed to be the most heavily weighted rating, but others are included in the reports provided to the Committee, including Kenpom, Sagarin and ESPN. I believe the AP and Coaches Poll are also included. It's all art and not science, and committee members can weigh the different data as they see fit, but it helps to be ranked highly across the board. Crewsorlose likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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