kappy96 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 30 minutes ago, Box and Won said: Look, we're all struggling to get through this ordeal. But as a wise man once said, "You may have a plan, it never plans out. But somehow, ironically, it plans out." And, "If you're always winnin' then you don't understand what it is to win." Watch this for some #EpicLearn. #wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 44 minutes ago, ACE said: This week is quickly coming to a close... can we expect a late Friday afternoon news dump? Doubt we hear anything this week. After they received preliminary report, both parties have 5 days to submit additional information and then it's finalized and sent to hearing officer with recommendation. The hearing officer makes the call on punishment so would be next week earliest is my guess but again, a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: Doubt we hear anything this week. After they received preliminary report, both parties have 5 days to submit additional information and then it's finalized and sent to hearing officer with recommendation. The hearing officer makes the call on punishment so would be next week earliest is my guess but again, a guess. Where's that Ed Norton clip... closing his laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 -it would be good to know the report was completed, I doubt we hear anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -it would be good to know the report was completed, I doubt we hear anything We will hear nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, ACE said: This week is quickly coming to a close... can we expect a late Friday afternoon news dump? I doubt it. This week is only the preliminary investigative report. Then each side has X number of days to respond to it with possible missing information. Then more days till final report is created. Then more days till decision/adjudication from SLU. Then each side has 3 days to appeal. Then more time for 3-person board to make final decision. Other than possible status update announcements - and ultimate decision announcement - will be shocked if any details are released at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Adman said: I doubt it. This week is only the preliminary investigative report. Then each side has X number of days to respond to it with possible missing information. Then more days till final report is created. Then more days till decision/adjudication from SLU. Then each side has 3 days to appeal. Then more time for 3-person board to make final decision. Other than possible status update announcements - and ultimate decision announcement - will be shocked if any details are released at any time. So you are looking at pretty much the full season for the suspended players even if no punishment is rendered by the hearing officer. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Westy03 said: So you are looking at pretty much the full season for the suspended players even if no punishment is rendered by the hearing officer. Yikes. No, wasn't saying that - though that's possible. What I was saying was, due to the process, need for confidentiality throughout -- likely even after ultimate decision made due to possibility of lawsuits from either side -- makes it highly unlikely there will ever be a news dump, release of details. At best I suspect limited to status updates and ultimate decision. Heck, there are 3 players not playing... and no announcement of what is a fact. That they would now change their approach to confidentiality would be beyond shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, Westy03 said: So you are looking at pretty much the full season for the suspended players even if no punishment is rendered by the hearing officer. Yikes. I hardly could believe that the hearing officer has an unlimited amount of time to diddle with a matter. If some decision is not reached in a timely fashion the school will be sued and an injunction will be obtained to let the players play. That would be a terrible way for the school to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm sorry, meant to add that I share your concern of players being punished (not sure if officially suspended or what their official status is) without adjudication. Guilty until proven innocent. Then if no punishment rendered, still punished. Yikes is the nicest word for that. But we don't really know because of required confidentiality. Bay Area Billiken likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, cheeseman said: I hardly could believe that the hearing officer has an unlimited amount of time to diddle with a matter. If some decision is not reached in a timely fashion the school will be sued and an injunction will be obtained to let the players play. That would be a terrible way for the school to go. 60 days is the guideline. As I've read the Title IX documents from the federal government, the clear intention is to adjudicate quickly. But some flexibility is given on complicated cases, as mentioned in Dr. Pestello's communication. It seems odd there would be long delay here given video evidence, but we don't know the facts. They want to get it right. But I agree with you, due to possible lawsuit/injunction, I would think they won't dawdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 attorneys for the "three" were anticipating receiving said report today.......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, cheeseman said: I hardly could believe that the hearing officer has an unlimited amount of time to diddle with a matter. If some decision is not reached in a timely fashion the school will be sued and an injunction will be obtained to let the players play. That would be a terrible way for the school to go. Are you planning to sue them cheeseman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just now, Old guy said: Are you planning to sue them cheeseman? No, “three” will sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Who is "three"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 The unnamed “three” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I don’t know what this means but I’m not thinking positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: I don’t know what this means but I’m not thinking positive. I’m thinking it doesn’t mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I’m thinking it doesn’t mean anything. 🤞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 booted from here allowed to go somewhere else without penalty what I'm distorting thru my tear stained cool aid goblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: I don’t know what this means but I’m not thinking positive. If he transfers at the semester, does he have to sit out until 2nd semester next year? Would he only have that final semester to play? If so, he ought to look to go play pro ball somewhere now and forget about college ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 42 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: I don’t know what this means but I’m not thinking positive. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Could be just messing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, kmbilliken said: Could be just messing with us. I’m not sure if I would be thinking that way if I were in his predicament but man if I played D1 basketball or football I’d be cryptic tweet trolling fans 24/7 rgbilliken likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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