Pistol Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Box and Won likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 13 hours ago, TheChosenOne said: What did she tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 "....only evidence of how NOT credible the accusers is AT ALL....." wow this is not going to go well with anyone involved. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yea, maybe the lawyer would say that regardless but I am not a lawyer so I don’t know. It seems like the players are being railroaded like most suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 15 hours ago, moytoy12 said: Technically, she's a "principal". A "principal" at a professional corporation (which Rosenblum's firm is) is the equivalent to a partner at a partnership. I imagine it looks better for a woman to represent men accused of misconduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Those that have posted this being a SLU issue with the suspension have been proven correct by the lawyers statement. One of two things will probably happen the players will play at the end of the semester or at least 2 will move on. I think Graves has time to wait it out, this is just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 56 minutes ago, CBFan said: Those that have posted this being a SLU issue with the suspension have been proven correct by the lawyers statement. One of two things will probably happen the players will play at the end of the semester or at least 2 will move on. I think Graves has time to wait it out, this is just speculation. Double-edged sword; Freddy Ballgame having to stay the course on the social justice aspect of SLU's mission statement and appeasing the warriors, while at the same time trying to protect the investment made to the revenue driving basketball program. He has to at least keep up appearances with one group while walking on eggshells with the other. SLU_Nick and Spoon-Balls like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 This matter can be temporarily solved by simply getting an injunction to let the players play. I have no idea what the school actually is expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, cheeseman said: This matter can be temporarily solved by simply getting an injunction to let the players play. I have no idea what the school actually is expecting. How would that happen? Also, could you imagine the ramifications with the student body? I mean, in an ironic way, since they'd have to buy tickets to protest at the game, but I'm sure a scene would unfurl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bobby Metzinger said: How would that happen? Also, could you imagine the ramifications with the student body? I mean, in an ironic way, since they'd have to buy tickets to protest at the game, but I'm sure a scene would unfurl. I’ve heard SLU has known the results of the external investigation for some time now, but is stalling until Winter Break to render its ruling... would be shocking, I know... 😑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I don't understand the point of waiting until winter break. It's not as if the students are magically not gonna realize they return. They will go to the games and see them playing or hear about it no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Imagine if we get welmer, graves, AD, and Bishop back for conference play. In the beginning teams will have no idea how to play against us since a third of our team is different from the first half of the year. Well be a lot better. Would be quite the comeback if we go like 15-3 in conference play after going like 6-7 in noncon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: I don't understand the point of waiting until winter break. It's not as if the students are magically not gonna realize they return. They will go to the games and see them playing or hear about it no matter what Winter Break gives everyone an excuse for being unavailable to the media once the final word is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, ARon said: Winter Break gives everyone an excuse for being unavailable to the media once the final word is out. Plus, if you keep delaying the decision the players might decide to leave on their own. That way you don't have to deliver a decision that will piss people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 After this fiasco, Coach Ford will follow the players out the door in two years. It's almost like that's what the ladies on the student conduct board want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, ARon said: Winter Break gives everyone an excuse for being unavailable to the media once the final word is out. Technically, that would hold true for 99% of the student body, but not the basketball team. They play seven (7) games during the time period that falls under the University Academic Calendar "winter break" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, brianstl said: Plus, if you keep delaying the decision the players might decide to leave on their own. That way you don't have to deliver a decision that will piss people off. It sure looks that way and we will know soon at the semester break. Off topic from this post some posts back you think that it will hurt recruiting but I am hoping that coach Ford can spin this positive and also the players that remain can help out with the positive spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 34 minutes ago, Bobby Metzinger said: Technically, that would hold true for 99% of the student body, but not the basketball team. They play seven (7) games during the time period that falls under the University Academic Calendar "winter break" Being true and being a convenient excuse are rarely the same thing. Although needing an excuse to avoid making decisions is weak and the sign of poor leadership. So I am sure this is how it will play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: After this fiasco, Coach Ford will follow the players out the door in two years. It's almost like that's what the ladies on the student conduct board want. This would mean SLU has a great year next year. In that case, thanks Coach Ford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/7/2017 at 9:09 PM, kmbilliken said: If he transfers at the semester, does he have to sit out until 2nd semester next year? Would he only have that final semester to play? If so, he ought to look to go play pro ball somewhere now and forget about college ball. Situation 1 was followed up with an outstanding season, mainly with the addition of Mitchell to the current roster of holdovers. Bring back most of this roster full of experience and add Gordon and Santos and things are still in great shape for a run, likely not as dynamic as 2012, but who knows if lightning could strike twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Bobby Metzinger said: How would that happen? Also, could you imagine the ramifications with the student body? I mean, in an ironic way, since they'd have to buy tickets to protest at the game, but I'm sure a scene would unfurl. How this happens is that the lawyer goes to a court and asks for an injunction against them not playing ruling the school has made to date. In fact they could have done this at the beginning. The court issues the injunction and then the players and school go to court to hash it out but they would not be held out until the court rules. It happens all the time. Bobby Metzinger likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamarete Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, cheeseman said: How this happens is that the lawyer goes to a court and asks for an injunction against them not playing ruling the school has made to date. In fact they could have done this at the beginning. The court issues the injunction and then the players and school go to court to hash it out but they would not be held out until the court rules. It happens all the time. Heck, seems like the NFL deals with this every week with some player/some issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 31 minutes ago, cheeseman said: How this happens is that the lawyer goes to a court and asks for an injunction against them not playing ruling the school has made to date. In fact they could have done this at the beginning. The court issues the injunction and then the players and school go to court to hash it out but they would not be held out until the court rules. It happens all the time. Why not bring this injunction the eve of the first game of the season then? There would have been a good month and change of time elapsed in which I'm sure the players, coaching staff, attorneys would have at least be read into some of the possible outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, Bobby Metzinger said: Why not bring this injunction the eve of the first game of the season then? There would have been a good month and change of time elapsed in which I'm sure the players, coaching staff, attorneys would have at least be read into some of the possible outcomes. I agree - I wonder if they thought they had a better chance to let the ruling come down then go to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 hours ago, billiken_roy said: "....only evidence of how NOT credible the accusers is AT ALL....." wow this is not going to go well with anyone involved. . Exactly, if the attorneys are this bad with basic grammar, I can only imagine what nightmares may come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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