Old guy Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Hey people it is time to put away the defeat we suffered last night and get into Thanksgiving mood. Things will get better for sure. Happy Thanksgiving and all the best to all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Why the focus on our poor shooting alone? All we needed to do was play good, solid, team defense over the last 6 minutes and we win this home game... and we didn't. We let their guys shoot wide open 3 pointers. Where was our perimeter defense? We let them get multiple shots. We let them control the game and tempo (especially in the second half) and our defense just let them do what they wanted to do. Our team last night, even without the Situation 2 guys, had more talent than most former Billiken teams. We need team defense more than anything. Rebound and shut down their perimeter game is what we need to do each game -- and we didn't. We let Detroit feel quite comfortable -- and that needs to change. Spoonhour teams never lost close games like last night. Spoon's teams were mentally tough and knew how to close out games. And as bad a Hines is/was last night, Goodwin dribble the ball off his foot and French had a turnover as well. Freshmen will be freshmen -- I am OK with that, but the defensive intensity needs to be increased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Hope is not lost drkelsey55 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 4 hours ago, Clock_Tower said: Why the focus on our poor shooting alone? All we needed to do was play good, solid, team defense over the last 6 minutes and we win this home game... and we didn't. We let their guys shoot wide open 3 pointers. Where was our perimeter defense? We let them get multiple shots. We let them control the game and tempo (especially in the second half) and our defense just let them do what they wanted to do. Our team last night, even without the Situation 2 guys, had more talent than most former Billiken teams. We need team defense more than anything. Rebound and shut down their perimeter game is what we need to do each game -- and we didn't. We let Detroit feel quite comfortable -- and that needs to change. Spoonhour teams never lost close games like last night. Spoon's teams were mentally tough and knew how to close out games. And as bad a Hines is/was last night, Goodwin dribble the ball off his foot and French had a turnover as well. Freshmen will be freshmen -- I am OK with that, but the defensive intensity needs to be increased. Don't disagree at all with what you say but clearly fatigue is an issue with such a limited bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Anyone remember the Santa Clare loss during RM era and what happened that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Billboy1 said: Anyone remember the Santa Clare loss during RM era and what happened that year. We've had one or two total stink bombs on just about every NCAA quality team but this loss had better be it given the weakness of our schedule and the A10. The real problem is we've had stink bombs in many other seasons that turn into predictors of what the team really is...mediocre or bad. p.s. the Santa Clara loss was technically during the Jim Crews era as he had just taken over the team from RM. The RM stink-bomb losses from the year before included a couple of road games at teams like Loyola Maramount and a then terrible Rhode Island team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, kshoe said: We've had one or two total stink bombs on just about every NCAA quality team but this loss had better be it given the weakness of our schedule and the A10. The real problem is we've had stink bombs in many other seasons that turn into predictors of what the team really is...mediocre or bad. p.s. the Santa Clara loss was technically during the Jim Crews era as he had just taken over the team from RM. The RM stink-bomb losses from the year before included a couple of road games at teams like Loyola Maramount and a then terrible Rhode Island team. Getting way ahead of myself, but assuming we get our full team together and they play well enough to put us on the bubble, I wonder if the committee would take into account the depleted game day roster against Detroit? Regardless, the players we had available should have smoked Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I thought at the beginning of the year and still think we are going to have to win the conference tournament to get in. With a positive conclusion to the situation, I think we could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 The Santa Clara game was a blood bath. This one more of a gut punch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, moytoy12 said: Getting way ahead of myself, but assuming we get our full team together and they play well enough to put us on the bubble, I wonder if the committee would take into account the depleted game day roster against Detroit? Regardless, the players we had available should have smoked Detroit. I see two paths to the tournament given how poorly the teams in our league are playing right now. Win the conference regular season and make it at least to the conference semifinals or finish in the top 2 and make it at least to the conference finals. The max the committee will take from our league is two. Depending on how the conference tournament plays out, it might only be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Detroit takes no mercy on Siena Heights, crushing the Saints, 131-69, shooting both 60 per cent from three and total. 131 points is impressive against anybody. I'm thinking they're going to have a solid season this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, billikenbill said: Detroit takes no mercy on Siena Heights, crushing the Saints, 131-69, shooting both 60 per cent from three and total. 131 points is impressive against anybody. I'm thinking they're going to have a solid season this year. That tiny school they clobbered is NAIA. D-M edged us on a night when we couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and played hardly any defense. They may do fine in the Horizon League but I don't think we can count on them to prop up our RPI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 hours ago, billikenbill said: Detroit takes no mercy on Siena Heights, crushing the Saints, 131-69, shooting both 60 per cent from three and total. 131 points is impressive against anybody. I'm thinking they're going to have a solid season this year. Even with Det M's "impressive??" win over the Bills , they remain a D team. There is no way to sugar coat it...we lost to a bad team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 9:56 PM, mrjoelabs said: Worst loss of Ford Era. Horrific Arguably worst loss of Ford’s career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Detroit is #4 in Kenpom's "luck" rating. Basically means they are doing a lot better then they were last year and was unexpected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: Detroit is #4 in Kenpom's "luck" rating. Basically means they are doing a lot better then they were last year and was unexpected Titans need to get on the stick. Down 39-34 to Ft. Wayne at the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/26/2017 at 5:56 PM, TheOne said: Arguably worst loss of Ford’s career. Detroit Mercy at the buzzer worst loss in Ford's career... Hold my beer while we go play W. Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 hours ago, dlarry said: Detroit Mercy at the buzzer worst loss in Ford's career... Hold my beer while we go play W. Michigan. +1 (need more reactions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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