thetorch Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 stu durando @studurando 3m3 minutes ago Jim Crews says he doesn't expect anyone to red shirt this season and he might use all 13 players in Saturday's opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I'm a little disappointed by that, as I was hoping someone would in order to spread out this class some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I was hoping Bartley would. Looks like he could really use some muscle to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 13 players in a real game? I don't believe it...10 tops. Crews has to have an idea at this point who gives us the best chance to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think, smartly, 99% of kids would not accept a redshirt. With the rash of transfers now and chance of injuries taking a redshirt year just robs you of a year of eligibility. Kids don't take a redshirt to develop, they take it because they aren't going to play anyway. At this time I don't think there is anyone on the roster who is completely out of the rotation and has no chance of possibly getting playing time. Gillmann and Bartley, the 2 most likely players to redshirt have acquitted themselves well, and while I still think they are at the bottom of the depth chart, they have more than a minimal chance at playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The precedent for redshirts isn't that strong in my opinion. Most players who are good enough to contribute late in their career can be helpful this year, or will not be needed for a full five years. Obviously Gillmann seemed like an obvious candidate, but without him our bench would definitely lack height. I don't mind not redshirting anyone. Hopefully we will be able to use that scholarship well in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If I knew I was at the end of the bench, I would redshirt and get another year of free education. Get my masters paid for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 This just tells me that either Crews doesn't have a full grasp at what he have yet or that he sees good potential in everybody on the roster. I'd be shocked if all 13 players were near ready to go. If we have a roster that could go 13 deep and then settle on a 9-10 man rotation, I think they says even more than we'll pretty competitive this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 If I knew I was at the end of the bench, I would redshirt and get another year of free education. Get my masters paid for. I think they get the fifth year no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Maybe Crews just wants everybody to be focused and ready? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think they get the fifth year no matter what. SLU will give them that year if they need it to graduate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 -Crews playing all 13 scholarship players in any game.....i won't believe it until i see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlhoops Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 What's the criteria to red shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretty_ricky Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Second tweet from Durando says that Crews thinks the team is more consistant with more players playing. Sounds like none of the new guys have shown to be light years ahead of each other. I'm fine with him going 13 deep for the first few games as he works his rotation out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The only reason I'd redshirt a player is to even out the classes a bit, but I think it's pretty likely that one of these freshmen transfer out eventually. No inside info on this, but I guess if I was receiving the least playing time in a 6 person class, I'd probably look to go somewhere else and play. I wonder though if this is somewhat of a lack of confidence in our big men (Manning, Glaze, Agbeko, Lancona) to stay healthy and contribute. All 4 have missed time in their careers due to injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The only reason I'd redshirt a player is to even out the classes a bit, but I think it's pretty likely that one of these freshmen transfer out eventually. No inside info on this, but I guess if I was receiving the least playing time in a 6 person class, I'd probably look to go somewhere else and play. I wonder though if this is somewhat of a lack of confidence in our big men (Manning, Glaze, Agbeko, Lancona) to stay healthy and contribute. All 4 have missed time in their careers due to injury. I can see that happening as well. It's almost become the norm in college basketball these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The precedent for redshirts isn't that strong in my opinion. Most players who are good enough to contribute late in their career can be helpful this year, or will not be needed for a full five years. Obviously Gillmann seemed like an obvious candidate, but without him our bench would definitely lack height. I don't mind not redshirting anyone. Hopefully we will be able to use that scholarship well in a few years. +1. With the transfer era it doesn't make sense to use a scholarship year for a potential 5th year for someone. Odds are you won't want that guy in the 5th year if he couldn't contribute this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Seems to me that Dayton played 10 to 12 deep last year. Bring in fresh players continuously and keep the energy level high. Couldn't that work if the talent of our players is about equal?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 +1. With the transfer era it doesn't make sense to use a scholarship year for a potential 5th year for someone. Odds are you won't want that guy in the 5th year if he couldn't contribute this year. But how many people were saying they wish Cory Remekun had redshirt as a freshman and been a senior last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 So who out of last year's 4 year seniors would you boot for year 5 of Corey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 So who out of last year's 4 year seniors would you boot for year 5 of Corey? I'm pretty sure the Bills had a scholarship to give. That's why five players left but six players are coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The Spurs went 13 deep in their 5 game dethroning of the heat. I know the games are longer in the NBA, but having that kind of deep rotation of versatile interchangeable pieces is difficult to scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I'm pretty sure the Bills had a scholarship to give. That's why five players left but six players are coming in. My mistake. I was thinking incorrectly. But there still would have been a squeeze in a roster spot somewhere along the line - whether it's not signing Agbeko or Lancona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The Spurs went 13 deep in their 5 game dethroning of the heat. I know the games are longer in the NBA, but having that kind of deep rotation of versatile interchangeable pieces is difficult to scout.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 This just tells me that either Crews doesn't have a full grasp at what he have yet or that he sees good potential in everybody on the roster. I'd be shocked if all 13 players were near ready to go. If we have a roster that could go 13 deep and then settle on a 9-10 man rotation, I think they says even more than we'll pretty competitive this year. No. I believe that Jim Crews has a pretty good idea of what he has. If we are going to play 13 players (or close thereto) then this means that the veterans are not playing well enough to impress JC and to cause JC to shorten the bench (see last year), that JC, knowing what it takes to win in the A10, has decided he must give the Freshmen every chance to prove themselves based upon the play of the veterans but that JC is also not willing to give up on the veterans, JC knows that he will need the veterans for both their play and their leadership and that he will keep them in the mix as well. Personally, from what I saw at the intra squad game, the Freshmen each had their moments but that the Senors were not so impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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