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Why do they need a nickname? It’s cheesy. Forcing a nickname is like forcing a hype song like “We Are Mi$$ou”

Thatch should be included in any nickname or even discussion of "local" recruits. He's still flying under the radar but i think he may end up having the best career of anyone in this class

This is probably the best article I have read on the team. If, no when, we reach the success level we all expect, we will owe a huge part of that success to the 2 G-men. While I think this team will be the best (most talented) in SLU history, there are two previous examples of twin local stars taking this type of step to help turnaround the program---Douglass and Gray; and Claggs and Highmark. This time I think we'll go higher! Thanks JG and CAG! Billiken fans really appreciate you coming to SLU. Now before we lose Bess and the other seniors, let's go on a he!! of a run this year.

i guess carpenter heard i was kinda downplaying him in this thread. guess he showed me today.

He hasn't died a slow death yet?

Fun wasn’t it. Mentioned Hank Raymonds playing at SLU and then the Marquette Connection with him and Rick Did you hear McCarver saying Cubs pitchers are like “having zits at the prom?” “You are glad you are there but you want to look good. “. Yikes.

Kwamain was back on campus today.

Hopefully, this team is good and deep enough to where we're blowing out a lot of teams w/ like 5 to 10 minutes to go. That would get our FR some much needed minutes. Still, everything you read about Thatch leads you to believe he may earn around 10mpg during the heat of the battle. Can't wait to see how this all comes together. My guess right now is if Ford goes w/ an 8 man rotation +2, it would look something like this: Goodwin, Bess, French, Gordon, Isabel. Rotation would be Wiley, Santos, and Foreman. The +2 would be Jacobs and Thatch.

Obviously the news here: I believe this is first mention of pre-season Top 40. Has anyone seen us mentioned or listed such? Where?

have you seen j porter play? i do not consider him soft. i do not think french would "chew him up and spit him out". i do think french is likely the better player, but it isnt the mismatch you are visualizing imo. imo the difference in a mi$$ouri and the billikens matchup is goodwin, isabella and bess. mi$$ouri doesnt match up there skillwise imo. we win regardless of where this game is played.

J. Porter might have some NBA-translatable skills, BUT French would chew him up and spit him out in a college match-up! I'll take physically imposing over soft any day of the week. For the sake of argument, let's say Porter and Tillman cancel out CAG and HF. Who does SPUMAC have to compete against Santos and Foreman? (Is that silence I hear?) Who can match Bess? (More silence) Backcourt starters? Goodwin and Isabell over whatever two CM picks. And our backup guards (DW, FT and DJ)-who matches up with them from the P-D's favorite team? (Aah, I love the silence!)

had never really seen this flag before, googled it, your description was spot on.

-Matter would get run out of CoMo if he said anything more positive about us so I will chalk this up to his survivor instincts

Mizzou would be one of the few teams that could match up pretty well with us when it comes to bigs. The same can't be said of their guards. They are going to have some real problems when it comes to finding someone to run that offense. SLU would have to be the clear favorite in that game.

Thanks to the urban dictionary I now know what you mean.

Take a deep breath. Now count to ten. Answer to your question is yes...I am serious. Comparing Matheny to the man referred by many as "dead" is not fair. I am not telling you to agree with me. Feel free to wallow in the muck of the Bernie haters if you choose to. How did you like the game last night? I thought since Matheny was gone all the crap baseball would be ending. You know...3 errors, getting picked off first, not knowing when to pull the starter, and horrendous relief pitching. I guess you loved that Schildt plans to stick with Fowler. What a great game he had last night. I have said many times that managers are way overrated...it takes players...we don't have them. But if it makes you feel better to blame all problems on Matheny, go for it. You will have a lot of company. Now to quote Bernie after he writes an attack column, thanks for reading!

Henry. Are you serious? Is that your best argument? Do facts matter? If so, here's a few facts: 1. Yes, La Russa had the use of Chris Carpenter in 2011. Yes, he had been one of our best Cardinal pitchers; however, he was at the end of his career in 2011 when he went 11-9 before having a great post-season but 11-9 in the regular season did not remind anyone of his prior Cy Young worthy years. And BTW, players come and go and while Carpenter played great for LaRussa, prior to 2011 and during the 2011 post-season, Mattheny did have a new face in Carlos Martinez along with Adam Wainwright another top Cardinal pitcher - who missed all of 2011 - and yet LaRussa and the Cardinals won the World Series that year. . 2. Yes. Lance Berkman had an unexpected and incredible year in 2011 - Comeback Player of the Year, great Post Season... but he essentially was a Cardinal for only 1 year. HOF LaRussa coached him only 1 year and Berkman was not reason I had said the Cardinals were stacked. LaRussa was a great manager for us, for many years, and all but 1 of them were without Berkman. 3. Yes. Pujols was definitely a big loss. Then again, I'll take his years prior to 2012 rather than 2012 to the present. And, as mentioned, Matheny did have Holiday, Molina, M Carpenter etc. still in the lineup. Nonetheless, Matheny was not fired b/c Pujols left the Cardinals 7 years ago. Could Mozelak have done better? Should he have done better? Sure. But current players didn't all like to play for Mattheny. Heyward didn't want to stay. Others didn't want to come. Playing for the manger should be a selling point for the general manger -- not a disadvantage. McGuire, Izzy, Eckersley? Can you name any players who came to player for Matheny even though Jockety and Mo were responsible for obtaining the players? I don't. I can name quite a few players who did not want to play for Crews. And now that Crews is goen, just seems like there is great interest to come to SLU and play for Ford whereas there was almost no interest under Crews. And how do explain away the poor coaching? The bad game day tactical decisions. The horrible use of the bull pen? Inability to take advantage of a double switch or sacrifice. Poor fundamentals. I am reminded of another bad tactician - Jim Crews who also used questionable lineups, who also did not get along with players, who refused to call a timeout or practice inbound or set plays (as opposed to bullpen use or double switches) who presided over poor fundamental play, etc. Funny you mention Crews simply cashing a paycheck. I agree as to Crews and suggest that Matheny is closer than one might think. How much efforts did Matheny expend in refusing to speak to one of his top players in Dexter Fowler for 3 months? In sending veteran pitchers to be narks on the bullpen pitchers? In looking he other way when veterans bully younger players "to toughen them up"? Seems more like a lazy, out of touch guy looking to simply cash a paycheck to me. And while we are comparing Crews and Matheny, I never understood Crews's loyalty to Jim Platt and I likewise do not understand they loyalty Matheny had with John Mabry. Oh well -- I don't have to anymore -- for both teams!! Henry. Believe you are overselling efforts of Matheny. And BTW, don't just look at the record of Mathey. Yes, even HOF mangers can have an off year, etc but look at the direction of the program under Matheny --- steady downward trend. The Billikens deserved better and so do the Cardinals..

We owe Jalen a debt of gratitude for what he did for us over the last two seasons. All the best to you Jalen Johnson.

Bernie’s dui was probably 25 years ago. I know he gave up alcohol for a long time. Not sure that’s still true. I’m not sure what your statement that you would listen to Slaten says about you. Slaten is a joke and has a far greater checkered past. Slaten is a psycho.

Interesting yet predictable response from Dave Matter on SLU v Mizzou in his chat. It's July and things are slow, so just for fun ... if Cuonzo's Tigers played the revitalized SLU roster this coming season, who would you take and why? by Ghost of Sparky Stalcup 11:50 AM yesterday Great question. I'd give MU the edge for now because I think Jontay is at another level of anyone else on the floor. But it would be competitive. by dmatter 12:04 PM yesterday And here is a rather shocking response to a question on Mike Porter JR. There's a reason he slipped to 14 ... and maybe the Nuggets will have buyer's remorse. I hope for his sake he gets healthy and has a good career, but I'm not sure I would have risked a draft pick on him. by dmatter 12:05 PM yesterday

Porter took about half of his shots last season from the arc and hit 36%. In this theoretical game, I'm not sure who Ford would put on him. I don't think he would want French that far from the rim. Fun to talk about though.

False. In the A-10 that is a big deal and is directly correlated with winning A-10 programs (VCU, Dayton, RI). And the topic is publicity. Highly ranked recruits bring more buzz. There wasn’t even as high of a ceiling projected for one of our best teams in recent years. Remember we were picked by almost everyone to lose to 12 seed NCstate? We have significantly more depth and talent than that team this year. And yes it is due to recruiting high level players with NBA potential

4* recruits. We have 6. Previously only had ash under Crews.