brianstl Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 44 minutes ago, thetorch said: Recruiting is time consuming and almost a year round travel job. For a coach with a family it isn't a fun gig. Many more veteran coaches are going this route to limit their travel. But it is a pretty big pay cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 56 minutes ago, thetorch said: I say no on Weber. His performed well with recruits that were borderline college students and wored at schools that encouraged this recruiting tactic. Think Bob Huggins lite. Does that type of player fit into SLU? Not in many instances. Say what you will about Weber, K-State, its academic standing and its overall stature in the Big XII and P6. But when I think of schools with seemingly low standards for their student athletes Illinois, SIU-C and Purdue aren't top of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 10 hours ago, Compton said: Say what you will about Weber, K-State, its academic standing and its overall stature in the Big XII and P6. But when I think of schools with seemingly low standards for their student athletes Illinois, SIU-C and Purdue aren't top of mind. Weber had multiple partial and non qualifiers at SIUC. His best teams featured out state kids who were overlooked and city kids who were academically at risk that other schools wouldn't take. At Illinois he was eventually forced to go this route as well. Players had to transfer out, he had a lot of issues with questionable guys at Illinois which is why he was forced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 35 minutes ago, thetorch said: At Illinois he was eventually forced to go this route as well. Players had to transfer out, he had a lot of issues with questionable guys at Illinois which is why he was forced out. Why would a school force him out for his recruiting tactics, if it encouraged those same recruiting tactics? That's a strange way to show encouragement. Targeting out state kids who are overlooked seems like a reasonable approach. Fred Thatch comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 28 minutes ago, Compton said: Why would a school force him out for his recruiting tactics, if it encouraged those same recruiting tactics? That's a strange way to show encouragement. Targeting out state kids who are overlooked seems like a reasonable approach. Fred Thatch comes to mind. Recruiting questionable guys is encouraged if the teams wins. As soon as the team doesn't, it is used as an excuse to force you out. Weber's last 5 years at Illinois included 3 missed NCAA tournaments and only one NCAA tournament win. That's not going to cut it when your players are also having issues like this: Smith faces felony DUI, other charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 3 hours ago, RUBillsFan said: Recruiting questionable guys is encouraged if the teams wins. As soon as the team doesn't, it is used as an excuse to force you out. Weber's last 5 years at Illinois included 3 missed NCAA tournaments and only one NCAA tournament win. That's not going to cut it when your players are also having issues like this: Smith faces felony DUI, other charges This Weber started taking flyers on highly rated questionable players while at Illinois. He didn't win with them and all the bad publicity they caused led to his ouster. He goes to K St and recruits similar but slightly less highly rated guys and he's fine. Less pressure to win at K St and they are used to their athletes having questionable ethics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 I assume at this point the best approach is to have an assistant with a deal in place but not formally hired so that he can be around more throughout the summer? 2 weeks with an opening so a little surprised we haven't heard more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 51 minutes ago, slufan13 said: I assume at this point the best approach is to have an assistant with a deal in place but not formally hired so that he can be around more throughout the summer? 2 weeks with an opening so a little surprised we haven't heard more. I'm pretty sure Tate didn't "officially" sign til later when Ford hired him. Could it be he isn't bound by official rules if he hasn't officially signed yet? slufan13 and AGB91 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 I hope Conklin is in some strange locale, watching a pick-up basketball game, and then Hustl[ing] after the kid to sign as a new combo PG/F, and an assistant coaching gig. Young Charles, cgeldmacher and Bills71 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 40 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: I hope Conklin is in some strange locale, watching a pick-up basketball game, and then Hustl[ing] after the kid to sign as a new combo PG/F, and an assistant coaching gig. Bo Cruz AnkielBreakers likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 54 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: I hope Conklin is in some strange locale, watching a pick-up basketball game, and then Hustl[ing] after the kid to sign as a new combo PG/F, and an assistant coaching gig. crymdg2 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I didn’t know if this is SLU related or not, but could be interesting. RiseOfTheBillikens and brianstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just now, SLURadioBoy said: I didn’t know if this is SLU related or not, but could be interesting. That is the position beside assistant coach SLU has had listed for several weeks. I assume that means Nunez has moved up to DBO position that Wilson left. SLURadioBoy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 10 minutes ago, SLURadioBoy said: I didn’t know if this is SLU related or not, but could be interesting. The more hes involved the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnkielBreakers Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 26 minutes ago, BuiltFordBills said: Maybe it is Roby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilzz Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 15 hours ago, AnkielBreakers said: Maybe it is Roby? Roby has been at the summer practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Roby wouldn't leap frog Nunez for an assistant job. There's usually a step between grad assistant and recruiting assistant, and that's the DBO-DPD tier, or something like video coordinator. Some schools might have other jobs/titles, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 So is Will Bailey coming back or not? That would be an excellent addition. If so, then I will stop whining on this board about not having an assistant with Chicago and/or East Coast connections! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGB91 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 minutes ago, ACE said: So is Will Bailey coming back or not? That would be an excellent addition. If so, then I will stop whining on this board about not having an assistant with Chicago and/or East Coast connections! I think Bailey went to UMASS with Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 If you zoom in on this tweet you can see Will on the right side in SLU garb. Nice detective work by Midtown Madness Pod. Will Bailey is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 37 minutes ago, ACE said: So is Will Bailey coming back or not? That would be an excellent addition. If so, then I will stop whining on this board about not having an assistant with Chicago and/or East Coast connections! West Pine Bills on twitter is posting Bailey is back and his evidence is that Bailey has been wiped from the UMass site. I would post the tweet but I have not figured that out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 37 minutes ago, CBFan said: West Pine Bills on twitter is posting Bailey is back and his evidence is that Bailey has been wiped from the UMass site. I would post the tweet but I have not figured that out yet. CBFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Any chance Bailey’s got a backup PG in his back pocket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 23 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Thank you for posting the tweet I tried posting the tweet and twitter flagged my account as spam and locked my account, lol. I appealed and quickly got it unlocked but older people and twitter can be dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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