thetorch Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 Goodwin played 5 minutes, took 4 shots, made 2. Had 1 board and that was it. He did play more than the players he competing against. Echineque, Huff, and Schakel. Here is a video recap of the game. Go to 8:35 to see Goodwin hitting a nice pull up from 20 feet with a hand in his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Tuesday game is on nba tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 6 hours ago, billikenbill said: Haven’t seen highlights so, FWIW, the box score shows JGood with 5 mins. of action, going 2-4 from the floor, 0-1 from the arc, with 4 points and 1 board. Only 2 players played fewer mins., one of them a big, and one was Miles McBride, a 6’1 guard from WVU. Um. I think you're reading that box score wrong. Miles McBride is with the Knicks. If I'm reading into this correctly, Goodwin is essentially competing with Jamie Echenique, Jay Huff, and Jordan Schakel for the the Wizard's 2nd two-way contract. Against the Knicks Goodwin the most minutes of that group though just barely (Goodwin - 5, Echenique - 4, Huff & Schakel - 3). In the first game vs the Rockets, Echenique led with 10 minutes, Goodwin had 9, Schakel 7 and Huff 3. My totally uninformed take is that Echenique is the main competition for that two-way spot. He seemed to play well in summer league too. He is a big man 6'11", so it could be case of where the Wizards see a need. Schakel is 6'6" wing. Huff is another big 7'1" seems like he's behind the others, but who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On the positive side, he has, by my calculations, 13 points in 14 minutes of playing time. Hopefully, the Wizard's coaching staff sees the efficiency he produces. billiken_roy likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said: On the positive side, he has, by my calculations, 13 points in 14 minutes of playing time. Hopefully, the Wizard's coaching staff sees the efficiency he produces. Scoring is nice, but I've been a little disappointed he hasn't gotten any steals or assists and very few (2) rebounds during his 14 minutes. IMO, Goodwin's primary role in the NBA won't be a scorer. He needs to show that his stat stuffing all-around game as a defender, play-maker, and rebounder will absolutely translate from college while also showing he can shoot enough to keep teams honest. He did show more of that part of his game as he led Summer League in steals while dishing out a decent amount of assists. TaLBErt, SLUMedBilliken15, MusicCityBilliken and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, RUBillsFan said: Scoring is nice, but I've been a little disappointed he hasn't gotten any steals or assists and very few (2) rebounds during his 14 minutes. IMO, Goodwin's primary role in the NBA won't be a scorer. He needs to show that his stat stuffing all-around game as a defender, play-maker, and rebounder will absolutely translate from college while also showing he can shoot enough to keep teams honest. He did show more of that part of his game as he led Summer League in steals while dishing out a decent amount of assists. just a guess but i would bet the Wizards told him they know he does all those other things but they wanted to see some sort of offense capability. thus the pre-season goodwin we are seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 While exhibition games are very important, no team will make a player evaluation based solely on the 15-20 min of action. Practices are also important, and we have no idea how well Mr Goodwin performs in those sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, HoosierPal said: While exhibition games are very important, no team will make a player evaluation based solely on the 15-20 min of action. Practices are also important, and we have no idea how well Mr Goodwin performs in those sessions. Practice you talkin bout Practice? NextYearBill, BilliesBy40, MattyMo213 and 2 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Wizards host the Raptors in their 3rd preseason game tonight at 6pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Wizards host the Raptors in their 3rd preseason game tonight at 6pm. any tv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, almaman said: any tv? This is what Google shows: TV options NBA TV NBC Sports Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RUBillsFan Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Wizards lose again. 0-3 now in the preseason. Goodwin “only” got 3 minutes this game and didn’t put it any other stats if ESPN apps box score can be trusted. At one point when I checked Goodwin was credited with a block, but that has since gone away. Echenique, Schakel, and Huff all took “DNP-coaches decision”, so JGood’s 3 minutes actually looks like a positive. SLU_Nick and billiken_roy like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Watched the Goodwin mins against the raptors. Last 3 mins if game. He seems to be the only one on the entire roster that plays any defense at all. He had one very good one on one defensive lock up that could have been a foul but it was not. He played within himself and I thought he helped his cause tonight. One thing that’s funny is He crashes the glass just like he did with us…but then is about 7 inches shorter than everyone in the paint so he can’t grab it lol good showing overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 my takeaway after looking at the box score is that only 13 played and goodwin was one of the 13. so regardless of his points, he is being noticed obviously and given a chance. i will continue to hope and pray for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoneelse Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I wonder if there was a bit of 'showcasing' involved. Knowing he won't make the team, the Wizards are giving scouts a chance to look at Goodwin. I don't know that three minutes can't tell you much, though. I hope not, but the thought did cross my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, someoneelse said: I wonder if there was a bit of 'showcasing' involved. Knowing he won't make the team, the Wizards are giving scouts a chance to look at Goodwin. I don't know that three minutes can't tell you much, though. I hope not, but the thought did cross my mind. I think a lot has to do with it being a close game, and waiting till the last possible minute to see how the main core of guys do in that crunch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, wgstl said: I think a lot has to do with it being a close game, and waiting till the last possible minute to see how the main core of guys do in that crunch time. Unseld has been sending in his bench during the last 3 to 7 minutes of each exhibition game. This Raptors' game was maybe the latest he sent them in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Unseld has been sending in his bench during the last 3 to 7 minutes of each exhibition game. This Raptors' game was maybe the latest he sent them in. Right, but at some point he has to see what he has with his main players down the stretch of a close game. Last night felt more like that. They only have one more preseason game left, may have thought he wouldn't get this chance again, especially considering all the new faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Huff and Schakel are out. Looks like it’s down to Goodwin & Echenique for that 2-way deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 so 50/50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: Huff and Schakel are out. Looks like it’s down to Goodwin & Echenique for that 2-way deal. Echenique plays in the paint. Some of their decision may revolve around Bryant's status. Chase Hughes: Wizards GM Tommy Sheppard says Thomas Bryant will return “sometime in December” from his ACL injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Goodwin is one out of two to chose from. At this stage of the game, we know there are ways in which either one of these two play that fits their needs. I think the choice will depend upon the team's issues with players and injuries and less upon the way they play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Neither Goodwin nor Echenique played in the Wizards 4th and final preseason game Not sure how much this impacts Goodwins chances but another possibility for the two-way spot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crymdg2 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Sounds like we should know soon on Goodwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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