Asst Coach Van Macon

[Ibruce]

@Andrew__Slater

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Apr 26

 

Word is Van Macon is trying hard to join Mike Anderson and his nephew Cleveland #SJUBB

[RiseAndGrind]

1 hour ago, Ibruce said:

@Andrew__Slater

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Apr 26

 

Word is Van Macon is trying hard to join Mike Anderson and his nephew Cleveland #SJUBB

That would be a loss but I don’t blame him

[HoosierPal]

56 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said:

That would be a loss but I don’t blame him

I agree it would be a loss, but if he wants it and gets the gig, good for him. It would be going back home for Coach Macon.

[Quality Is Job 1]

He's associate head coach at SLU, so I wonder if he'd make the move without getting the same position (along with higher pay) at St. John's.

[AGB91]

It makes sense for him.

Bigger conference.

 Closer to his recruiting base.

 It's home.

[Pistol]

It makes just as much sense for Anderson, as the biggest knock on him so far is that he doesn't have NYC ties. Macon was our connection to the NYC HS and AAU programs - how we wound up with French, for example.

[slu72]

Anderson named T J Cleveland as Associate HC, so unless he's going to have 2 Assoc HC, that carrot's off the table for Macon. 

[HoosierPal]

1 hour ago, slu72 said:

Anderson named T J Cleveland as Associate HC, so unless he's going to have 2 Assoc HC, that carrot's off the table for Macon. 

Money talks. 

[billikenfan05]

1 minute ago, HoosierPal said:

Money talks. 

Maybe. I obviously don't know the $$ specifics but sounds like Strength coach Hornett came to SLU because the title of Asst Athletic Director for Strength & Conditioning looked mighty fine on a resume.

[cgeldmacher]

Hopefully, we pay our associate head coach better than Cleveland pays its assistant coaches.

[slu72]

Was Macon instrumental in bringing in Jimerson? He's an east coast kid, so I'm thinking maybe there's a connection.

[ACE]

17 hours ago, Ibruce said:

@Andrew__Slater

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Apr 26

 

Word is Van Macon is trying hard to join Mike Anderson and his nephew Cleveland #SJUBB

A later tweet says "look for" Paul Pressey to join the staff, so I guess that would only leave one more spot available.

[billikenfan05]

1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said:

Hopefully, we pay our associate head coach better than Cleveland pays its assistant coaches.

St Johns. Cleveland is a persons name 

[Littlebill]

The practice I attended in January, Ford and Macon essentially ran it together. If I hadn't known any better, it would have been hard to figure out who the HC was. I think Macon would be a huge loss.

[cgeldmacher]

23 hours ago, billikenfan05 said:

St Johns. Cleveland is a persons name 

Okay.  Duh.  Mike Anderson at St. John's with AC Cleveland.

I still hope we pay well enough that a regular assistant coach job at St. John's is not better than the AC job at SLU.

[gobillsgo]

Hope we can keep Macon... IF he does move on, I assume another of the ACs gets promoted to associate head coach. Wouldn’t mind us taking a run at Corey Frazier for the other AC spot then. It doesn’t seem like there’s anyone more plugged in to the local hoops scene than Frazier. I have zero idea whether there would be interest from either side. Some might also say having Frazier and Tate on the same staff is redundant.   Just thinking out loud. 

[ACE]

9 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:

Hope we can keep Macon... IF he does move on, I assume another of the ACs gets promoted to associate head coach. Wouldn’t mind us taking a run at Corey Frazier for the other AC spot then. It doesn’t seem like there’s anyone more plugged in to the local hoops scene than Frazier. I have zero idea whether there would be interest from either side. Some might also say having Frazier and Tate on the same staff is redundant.   Just thinking out loud. 

I would go get another guy with East Coast connections. Ford understands from his time at UMass that it is important in the A-10. For many years, Xavier also understood it was important in order to have success in the league.

[cgeldmacher]

Maybe Chris Carrawell would like to come back home to St. Louis.  If he's angling for a head coaching job, maybe giving him the associate head coach title might sweeten the deal for him.  Not saying it's likely, just throwing it out there.

Another possibility would  be Jamal Walker at Illinois.  If he sees the Illini as not going anywhere, he might consider jumping to his alma mater.

[billikenfan05]

Keeping Van Macon should be priority #1. He's our most valuable assistant IMO. I do think this is a ploy for increased $. Which is completely understandable.

[willie]

11 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said:

Maybe Chris Carrawell would like to come back home to St. Louis.  If he's angling for a head coaching job, maybe giving him the associate head coach title might sweeten the deal for him.  Not saying it's likely, just throwing it out there.

Another possibility would  be Jamal Walker at Illinois.  If he sees the Illini as not going anywhere, he might consider jumping to his alma mater.

Walker makes a lot of money. 

[billiken_roy]

45 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said:

Maybe Chris Carrawell would like to come back home to St. Louis.  If he's angling for a head coaching job, maybe giving him the associate head coach title might sweeten the deal for him.  Not saying it's likely, just throwing it out there.

Another possibility would  be Jamal Walker at Illinois.  If he sees the Illini as not going anywhere, he might consider jumping to his alma mater.

how many coach k coaches have been a big success.   not interested in carrawell.  he has been gone far too long to have any local influence likely.  

jamal walker has remained visible in the area.   but most of his recent conquests were then chased away by underwood.   probably scorched jamal's local st louis rep.  

personally i'd like to see bonner on staff.   who better to continue the education of french and the bigs yet to come?

[brianstl]

We got the local guy we need with Tate.  Like some said earlier we need a guy with connections on the East Coast.

[Matty Light]

47 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

how many coach k coaches have been a big success. 

Coach K is from the Bob Knight coaching tree, which also includes Jim Crews, Steve Alford, Pat Knight, Dan Dakich, Mike Davis, Isaiah Thomas, etc.  Really the only proteges whom have done squat are Coach K and now Chris Beard.

Who are Coach Ks best students?  Quinn Snyder, Tommy Amaker?  I think Johnny Dawkins did a great job at C Florida this year but Coach K hasn't exactly churned out great coaches either.

[billikenfan05]

3 minutes ago, Matty Light said:

Coach K is from the Bob Knight coaching tree, which also includes Jim Crews, Steve Alford, Pat Knight, Dan Dakich, Mike Davis, Isaiah Thomas, etc.  Really the only proteges whom have done squat are Coach K and now Chris Beard.

Who are Coach Ks best students?  Quinn Snyder, Tommy Amaker?  I think Johnny Dawkins did a great job at C Florida this year but Coach K hasn't exactly churned out great coaches either.

Coach K, if I remember from the ESPN+ series this season, does not hire from outside very often or even at all. He brings in his former players. It doesn't seem as though he grooms them to be anything more than his assistants.

[Matty Light]

3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

Coach K, if I remember from the ESPN+ series this season, does not hire from outside very often or even at all. He brings in his former players. It doesn't seem as though he grooms them to be anything more than his assistants.

He probably saw how Dean Smith's top assistant, Roy Williams, got a head coaching job at a big school and started challenging Smith for Final Fours.  Coach K probably said to himself, "I'll make sure that doesn't happen to me".