slufan13 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: This would mean Graves was expelled right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: This would mean Graves was expelled right? Assuming Rosenblum was correct in his initial statement, which was not corroborated by the "other player's (Ty Graves)" lawyers. Which, their statement saying "Rosenblum doesn't know my client's punishments" may make sense now if they were planning on getting Graves withdrawn before officially expelled. Trying to not have his name associated with expulsion at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy bob Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Any chance SLU was/is waiting for certain players to leave before releasing their reduced/withdrawn punishments? I assume that after a student withdraws from school they would have to go through the application process again. I also believe that after an agent is hired the player is no longer eligible to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGSLU Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, slufan13 said: This would mean Graves was expelled right? Perhaps he was allowed to voluntarily withdraw. Does this seem to suggest some settlement or deviation from the earlier decision? When the judge or arbitrator is a rogue decision maker the process will always fail. There has to be some check and balance for fairness to come into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 300 pages around the corner. Guess we know more now than 09/25/17 but still way in the dark without a lot of concrete info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Busy Stu day. Things appear to be in motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Also if Henriquez has hired an agent, I am shocked that we haven't gotten an official statement from him or the school. I believe hiring an agent immediately ends your college eligibility so I would think somebody would have put out a statement by now. Henriquez doesnt care likely. he is apparently done with college basketball and is moving on with the exception he likely will be back to sue the pants off slu. he doesnt need to put out any statement saying he is gone. Graves maybe is trying to speed the process of getting released by slu to begin talks with other schools to transfer to and his advisors are telling him to put his intentions in writing. Just my opinion. who knows on either one. the only thing i feel sure about is slu is going to get sued and spend A LOT of money. i am betting the cheerleaders wont be getting new uniforms paid for by slu anytime soon. HenryB likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 At this point, I'm expecting us to find out that there were 6 players involved in this situation like the initial tweet said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, slufan13 said: At this point, I'm expecting us to find out that there were 6 players involved in this situation like the initial tweet said. I was trying to forget that. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: i am betting the cheerleaders wont be getting new uniforms paid for by slu anytime soon. That's what Title IX was SUPPOSED to be about........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: At this point, I'm expecting us to find out that there were 6 players involved in this situation like the initial tweet said. yes the number of atty's and players involved no longer make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BourbanStreet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 If Graves wasn't represented by Rosenblum then does that mean one of Rosenblum's clients went against his advice and played? I just can't keep any of this straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Billiken Rich said: That's what Title IX was SUPPOSED to be about........ Has a women's athletics team ever been under Title IX investigation? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenBoy10 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, BourbanStreet said: If Graves wasn't represented by Rosenblum then does that mean one of Rosenblum's clients went against his advice and played? I just can't keep any of this straight. Wasn't it just speculation that Rosenblum told him them not to play? JohnnyJumpUp likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, billiken_roy said: yes the number of atty's and players involved no longer make sense. Per Gardner, Graves had separate Title IX and criminal counsel, which would give us insight for why there are different attorneys being mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, GBL_Bills said: Assuming Rosenblum was correct in his initial statement, which was not corroborated by the "other player's (Ty Graves)" lawyers. Which, their statement saying "Rosenblum doesn't know my client's punishments" may make sense now if they were planning on getting Graves withdrawn before officially expelled. Trying to not have his name associated with expulsion at all. I'm pretty sure the attorney that said that was a St. Louis based lawyer. I can't remember his name but he was a big time local attorney. So I don't think his response was in regards to Graves. This gets weirder and weirder by the day. Just think, if the Univiersity would have handled this properly it would be over by now and everybody would have moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, BillikenBoy10 said: Wasn't it just speculation that Rosenblum told him them not to play? I've never bought the Rosenblum told them not to play theory. The players weren't even in the arena on gameday. To me, the suspensions came from the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy bob Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Did the original tweet say 6 players or athletes. Could two of the six be cheerleaders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I shouldn't let this give me hope but it kind of is...looking forward to having those thoughts crushed yet again. stu durando @studurando 6m6 minutes ago More With Ty Graves announcing he has withdrawn from SLU and Adonys Henriquez now working with an agent, it appears the SLU Title IX appeals focus on two players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockL Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, dlarry said: I'm pretty sure the attorney that said that was a St. Louis based lawyer. I can't remember his name but he was a big time local attorney. So I don't think his response was in regards to Graves. This gets weirder and weirder by the day. Just think, if the Univiersity would have handled this properly it would be over by now and everybody would have moved on. Wasn't that John Rogers, who used to be a partner at Rosenblum's firm? (Could be another john rogers, as that is a common name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Billy bob said: Did the original tweet say 6 players or athletes. Could two of the six be cheerleaders? 6th person in question was the key grip. Tonka likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Billy bob said: Did the original tweet say 6 players or athletes. Could two of the six be cheerleaders? That could be a very unexpected curveball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, Billy bob said: Did the original tweet say 6 players or athletes. Could two of the six be cheerleaders? I'm paraphrasing from memory, "My friend was raped by 6 basketball players, *4 NAMES* that's all I have for now. If you are on campus, stay away from them they are very dangerous" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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