STL Hoops Insider Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 hour ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: SLU- Ford recruits his tall off and lands two very talented freshmen and a hand full of High major transfers. Mizzery- Pays the number one recruits family couple hundred thousand dollars to land the #1 recruit. Classic Spumac He's only had the job 4 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: He's only had the job 4 days Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 For those of you saying they paid the family money to get him, you know nothing about the family. Family lived in Columbia their whole lives before they moved to Seattle last year, MP sr was the assistant coach for 6 years on the women's team, and his 2 sister sister play for Mizzou. Connect the dots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 3 hours ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Wow!! 2 hours ago, STL Hoops Insider said: What level of success would they have to have next season for you to say they don't suck? 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: He's only had the job 4 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 21 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: For those of you saying they paid the family money to get him, you know nothing about the family. Family lived in Columbia their whole lives before they moved to Seattle last year, MP sr was the assistant coach for 6 years on the women's team, and his 2 sister sister play for Mizzou. Connect the dots I'm connecting the dots and now realize they paid the family more money than I originally thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: For those of you saying they paid the family money to get him, you know nothing about the family. Family lived in Columbia their whole lives before they moved to Seattle last year, MP sr was the assistant coach for 6 years on the women's team, and his 2 sister sister play for Mizzou. Connect the dots I think by "paying the family to get him", they meant that they gave the father a job. I'm sure that Porters are a great family, and haven't heard anything to the contrary, but ask yourself this question: if he didn't have incredibly talented sons, would MP Sr have the job prospects he's had the last 2 years? How many coaches do you see switching from coaching women's basketball to mens? For the record, I'm not knocking it. If hiring Justin Tatum onto the staff would've gotten Jayson in Billiken blue, I'd have encouraged it. Let's just not pretend that MP Sr's greatest skill set as a coach isn't the talent of his offspring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: For those of you saying they paid the family money to get him, you know nothing about the family. Family lived in Columbia their whole lives before they moved to Seattle last year, MP sr was the assistant coach for 6 years on the women's team, and his 2 sister sister play for Mizzou. Connect the dots Whole lives? Daddy moved there to be an assistant on his sister in law's staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I'm kind of hoping we actually paid Gordon 200k so he's not tempted by this Mizzou Mirage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: I think by "paying the family to get him", they meant that they gave the father a job. I'm sure that Porters are a great family, and haven't heard anything to the contrary, but ask yourself this question: if he didn't have incredibly talented sons, would MP Sr have the job prospects he's had the last 2 years? How many coaches do you see switching from coaching women's basketball to mens? For the record, I'm not knocking it. If hiring Justin Tatum onto the staff would've gotten Jayson in Billiken blue, I'd have encouraged it. Let's just not pretend that MP Sr's greatest skill set as a coach is the talent of his offspring. Not just switching from men's to women's but from the contract, making 100k more than the other men's coaches at the school, plus 5k a month for rent and 15k a year for family to travel. And at least with Tatum we know he would be known and respected around St. Louis. Was Porter Sr known and respected around Washington? Is he around St. Louis or is it just Columbia? Agree in that I'm not knocking it but you can't ignore certain facts about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: For those of you saying they paid the family money to get him, you know nothing about the family. Family lived in Columbia their whole lives before they moved to Seattle last year, MP sr was the assistant coach for 6 years on the women's team, and his 2 sister sister play for Mizzou. Connect the dots The school is paying for him to coach.... Are you dumb? You can't pay the player but go ahead and pay his family. Not saying I would be mad at SLU if they pulled it either. Just seems off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 54 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: For those of you saying they paid the family money to get him, you know nothing about the family. Family lived in Columbia their whole lives before they moved to Seattle last year, MP sr was the assistant coach for 6 years on the women's team, and his 2 sister sister play for Mizzou. Connect the dots I'm a conspiracy guy not a big connect the dots guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It's pretty much the biggest loophole going in the NCAA. Can't pay the players a dime but you can hire their parents and pay them whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 On 3/7/2017 at 7:36 PM, For-DaLove said: In reality it would only be the class of 2017 and the transfers. The 2018 commits could definitely follow him and Tate elsewhere. That being said, it isn't happening. Hiring a relative as an assistant coach doesn't bother me as much as hiring a relative for some bogus staff position like director of towels or head manager of classroom book rentals. Pitino and Calipari both have done that. Or coach k getting a parent a job at twice the normal pay at some neighborhood booster's business. If they make someone an actual assistant, if they aren't a legit coach now you have limited your actual coaching staff for recruiting and actual coaching. In the long run you probably hurt your program more than help it. BTW, Justin tatum would have been a legitimate coaching hire. God knows he would have been more effective than platt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I heard Cuonzo Martin was Mike Porter Sr were in each others weddings. I don't know how reliable the info is, but if true they've known each other for years and it's not just about a payday because Jr will be a multi millionaire in 15 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: I heard Cuonzo Martin was Mike Porter Sr were in each others weddings. I don't know how reliable the info is, but if true they've known each other for years and it's not just about a payday because Jr will be a multi millionaire in 15 months I doubt if that's true. Jr. said he had never heard of Cuonzo until he took the Mizzou job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, SLURadioBoy said: I doubt if that's true. Jr. said he had never heard of Cuonzo until he took the Mizzou job. He said Sr not Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It was in one of Matters early stories that nobody from the porter family had ever met martin. Now we have the total "blue chips" scenario, mizzou is so desperate for being relevant again they are going to cut corners and add one and dones from connected people, hiring parents of coaches who may or may not be qualified.. This is accepted practice for blue bloods, mizzou not so much... over or under till mizzou gets it's nuts chopped off at the alter of Kentucky, KU and Duke... If Tilmon shows up, someone got a deal, and the NCAA will not be far behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I think Gordon is safe in relation to porter. They won't be playing together, porter and Tatum and Simmons are all non program transforming players- but immediate impact. If they aren't built upon in recruiting they just become ghosts to a program. LSU didn't and nothing changed. One man army's can't win games. Gordon might be a one and done too so be ready, luckily we should dominate in 2018-19. Porter just gives hope. If Tilmon comes next season would be great for them, but in the SEC they won't be outstanding since other programs have the same thing over. Year after that wil be hard for them once their stars are gone. No way they get 2 more top ten recruits the year after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It will take at least 3 years to erase the stench of Kim no matter who they bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: He said Sr not Jr I know, but I would think Jr would have heard of Cuonzo if he and Sr were close enough friends to be in each other' weddings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Porter and Romar have the wedding connections, Martin never met the porters till he became mizzous coach.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 8 minutes ago, keyser soze said: Porter and Romar have the wedding connections, Martin never met the porters till he became mizzous coach.. Hell, Romar is Jr.'s godfather. Romar brought his dad in a year before his son and gave him a great salary. None of that mattered to the Porters when a more lucrative offer came along. They bailed on Jr.'s godfather and got him fired. That is one great Christian family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 4 hours ago, JMM28 said: They would have to win 3 national championships in men's basketball next year and make a deep run in the NBA playoffs for me to say they don't suck. Thank you for asking. would they be payed for the NBA games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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