Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -if Goodwin can play with a brace and the brace provides good support this could be a very nice development -if I am Goodwin I am not ending my high school career to have surgery unless I have in my mind that I can make the league Doesn't Jordan have in his mind that he can make it to the Association? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 7 hours ago, Old guy said: Big Bill Fan, the recovery time for a Bankhart procedure is calculated for normal shoulder usage. This kid will subject his shoulder to a lot more stress than that while playing. In other words the longer the recovery and the more gradual the re strengthening the better the results will be. On the good side he is young, healthy, and very strong, he should heal reasonably fast. One point that you may or may not be aware of: the two most physically demanding occupations, in broad classification terms, are #1 professional athletes, and #2 professional dancers. Yes, there are variations between sports and the like, but as a pre professional and very competitive athlete in the running for his state's Mr. Basketball designation, you know Goodwin puts a LOT of stress on all of his joints during play, much more stress than anyone else in this board is likely to do. All true, but he will be receiving the best rehab available. Being ready for the start of the season should be no problem if he has the surgery right after his current season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Doesn't Jordan have in his mind that he can make it to the Association? -I don;t know that's why I phrased it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -I don;t know that's why I phrased it that way I don't know, either, but I'm 99.9% sure that the young man thinks he can get to the NBA. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 I think a brace to hold the shoulder in place will interfere with his playing and not be effective in providing the support he needs. Hell if you need stitches you do not go get a band aid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Again, as a guy who lived through this, do not discount Old Guy here at all. It comes down to decision points and choices ..... Can I win a state title and be Mr. Illinois basketball? If the answer is yes or even maybe, a kid goes for it. He is young, indestructible, and will live forever. After that, we'll worry about what's next when it's next. A brace might work temporarily but I would all but guarantee surgery will occur long before he sees the floor as a Billiken. From da' couch in Maryland, even I can see we have a chronic issue here that means the knife from where I sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: I don't know, either, but I'm 99.9% sure that the young man thinks he can get to the NBA. What do you think? -I don't know, he might want to be a doctor, I've not seen him interviewed to talk about the distant future or heard his people say what he wants other than to go to SLU whereas some kids (see the UK lineup) tell everyone up front they are one and done, he is not one and done but beyond that we'll see, I don't think a big deal Thicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 He's playing tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, For-DaLove said: He's playing tonight story of my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Goodwin with 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 so should we be worried that this is a recurring injury, or relieved that it doesn't seem to affect him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Per David Wilhelm of the Belleville News Democrat he played with a shoulder harness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 He already broke the record scoring 16 in the first quarter. I am expecting a 40+ game today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Glorydays2013 said: He already broke the record scoring 16 in the first quarter. I am expecting a 40+ game today 26 and 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Unreal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 The scoreboard made it look like he scored the first 9 of the game to break it but I'm not 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 7 hours ago, majerus mojo said: The scoreboard made it look like he scored the first 9 of the game to break it but I'm not 100% According to this article, yep first 9 points for the Crusaders to break it. Also, sounds like the entire SLU coaching staff was in attendance. http://www.stltoday.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/goodwin-sets-althoff-scoring-record-in-final-game-before-shoulder/article_fbc89820-e2b7-11e6-b60f-278a76a716b0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I can't access twitter at work but Charlie Marlow from Fox 2 did tweet out a short video from the game that had a few highlights and showed Travis Ford in attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, Bills_06 said: According to this article, yep first 9 points for the Crusaders to break it. Also, sounds like the entire SLU coaching staff was in attendance. http://www.stltoday.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/goodwin-sets-althoff-scoring-record-in-final-game-before-shoulder/article_fbc89820-e2b7-11e6-b60f-278a76a716b0.html Hard not to get excited just reading that article. He is going to be an absolute great Billiken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Even if he has a 4 month recovery, he should be good to go by the time he steps on campus. I am pretty happy with the decision to have surgery. They can ease him in slowly and still let him have the second half of the summer to really work at it. He needs to work on his jump shot and needs to make better decisions with the ball if he's going to be a primary ball handler but I still think he'll be one of the top players in the A10 in a short period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, kshoe said: Hard not to get excited just reading that article. He is going to be an absolute great Billiken. This. I'm more excited to have this kid in SLU blue than any recruit since Hughes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: Even if he has a 4 month recovery, he should be good to go by the time he steps on campus. I am pretty happy with the decision to have surgery. They can ease him in slowly and still let him have the second half of the summer to really work at it. He needs to work on his jump shot and needs to make better decisions with the ball if he's going to be a primary ball handler but I still think he'll be one of the top players in the A10 in a short period of time. The article just addresses the fact that he didn't want to risk a more severe injury, which would have longer term effects. But there had to be some consideration of a timeline. If he played the rest of the season and they went on a run, well now he's cutting further into the time in which he can prepare for his freshman season at SLU. Is 4 months the estimated recovery time? If so, then this is right on the money. He'll be able to start working out and scrimmaging right after he graduates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Pistol said: The article just addresses the fact that he didn't want to risk a more severe injury, which would have longer term effects. But there had to be some consideration of a timeline. If he played the rest of the season and they went on a run, well now he's cutting further into the time in which he can prepare for his freshman season at SLU. Is 4 months the estimated recovery time? If so, then this is right on the money. He'll be able to start working out and scrimmaging right after he graduates. 4 months should be the maximum recovery time. It could be less depending on the severity of his injury. Of course, this assumes no complications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Everybody's recovery time as required to gain full strength and stability of the joint varies, according to his level of health (excellent), his strength (excellent), and the uses he intend to put his shoulder to. The last one is the rub, this man needs a super shoulder after surgery in order to do what he intends to do. He should not speed up the time of training too much and should start the training gradually. Taking things easy, particularly the recovery and the subsequent rehab and training, is the best thing to do in this case. Many athletic people take rehab as an Olympic contest, they try to do more than asked to do and many of these wind up screwing up the process, easy does it. He has the time he needs for a full recovery if he does not try to push his way through recovery as he pushes his way to the hoop during games. It takes time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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