JMM28 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would assume any sort of action with Biedscheid from a SLU end would happen when the team gets back from the Vanderbilt game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Y'all aren't looking at the evidence if you think TT isn't doing his job. TT doesn't avoid recruiting stories merely because he doesn't like to do them. Sure, maybe they're not his favorite -- but do a little search on StLToday and see what TT is forced to crank out, as opposed to what Matter is forced to crank out. In the past few months, in addition to SLU, TT has done boxing, non-SLU soccer, World Series backup, contribution to year-end (non-SLU) pieces and several other topics. Matter does...Mizzou. (I'm pretty sure he even lives in Columbia -- the prior beat writer did.) And despite all this yentzing about Mizzou bias, everybody in this thread has ignored what I pointed out a few pages back, namely, that the paper didn't even send a writer to a game against North Carolina State! But AlumniFan pretty much summed it up. The problem isn't that the P-D "favors" one team over the other. The problem is that newspapers in general, and the P-D in particular, just keeps groping around looking for some magic bullet without ever acknowledging that its fundamental model is completely broken. The problem is that newspapers have always made, and still make, the bulk of their profits from hardcopy advertising. Yet despite the fact that the sports section has a huge amount of locally produced copy and a relatively big budget, it doesn't have any ads. (Check out today's section for illustration.) Anyway, let's also point out that while the Post didn't send anyone to Raleigh, it did send someone to Nashville, in fact far enough in advance that he filed his preview story from there: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/billikens-more-confident-on-the-road/article_59e55d72-9d47-5132-9f2c-c345333df2bd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 So what you are saying is that the Post should slant all their sports coverage towards the school they perceive to be more weighted regardless of accuracy? I get your point it just seems to me the paper should strive to be balanced regardless of the weighted fan base they perceive. No, Cheese, I'm not saying that that's what the Post should do; I'm saying that that's what I believe they do. And despite all this yentzing about Mizzou bias, everybody in this thread has ignored what I pointed out a few pages back, namely, that the paper didn't even send a writer to a game against North Carolina State!Anyway, let's also point out that while the Post didn't send anyone to Raleigh, it did send someone to Nashville, in fact far enough in advance that he filed his preview story from there: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/billikens-more-confident-on-the-road/article_59e55d72-9d47-5132-9f2c-c345333df2bd.html Mr. Bonwich, I like your contributions and have nothing against you, but your material in this thread reads like a loyal employee spinning the company line. Of course you're going to defend your employer! Your contention that the P-D didn't send Matter to Raleigh for Mizzou's hoops game against NC St. means there's no bias favoring Mizzou's relevance doesn't take into account that the Mizzou football team has a big bowl game coming up and the paper has been dedicating a lot of its resources to preview and cover that. Had the football team's season been complete, Matter doubtlessly would have been in Raleigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Mr. Bonwich, I like your contributions and have nothing against you, but your material in this thread reads like a loyal employee spinning the company line. Of course you're going to defend your employer! Your contention that the P-D didn't send Matter to Raleigh for Mizzou's hoops game against NC St. means there's no bias favoring Mizzou's relevance doesn't take into account that the Mizzou football team has a big bowl game coming up and the paper has been dedicating a lot of its resources to preview and cover that. Had the football team's season been complete, Matter doubtlessly would have been in Raleigh. It isn't the fact that they didn't send Matter, they didn't send anyone. In the old days the Post would have assigned someone else from the sports department to go to the game. That doesn't happen anymore because their is no reporters left to assign the gig to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Absurd Bills Fan, I am not criticizing anyone and certainly not you, however Bonwich with his inside connection to the PD has what I see as a valid point of view. When you are fighting for your life, as the PD is, you do not do what is correct but instead you do what you think will sell. And yes, I fully believe that people working for the paper are stretched very thin and have to do all kinds of things they do not want to do. I read sometime ago that another major paper in Chicago (the Tribune ?, not sure who it was) had laid off all of their photographers after deciding all they needed was to have reporters on the beat taking pictures with their smart phones. I think Bonwich is not in the path of kowtowing to his employer, but rather is in the path of explaining that right or wrong a business will do exactly what they think they need to do in order to survive! Again, I post this with no intention of upsetting or insulting anyone, and I am not stating that what the PD is doing is either right or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Mr. Bonwich, I like your contributions and have nothing against you, but your material in this thread reads like a loyal employee spinning the company line. Of course you're going to defend your employer! Your contention that the P-D didn't send Matter to Raleigh for Mizzou's hoops game against NC St. means there's no bias favoring Mizzou's relevance doesn't take into account that the Mizzou football team has a big bowl game coming up and the paper has been dedicating a lot of its resources to preview and cover that. Had the football team's season been complete, Matter doubtlessly would have been in Raleigh. Tee hee. You haven't been paying very close attention, have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Tee hee. You haven't been paying very close attention, have you? Not sure what you're getting at, but I think your man card shall be suspended for "tee hee"! "Heh heh" is okay, but never "tee hee"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Nate Latsch had a blog post that basically just summed up what we have heard so far about Biedscheid. He is visiting Mizzou and also considering SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 If we don't land Biedscheid I wonder if there will be interest in Luke Fisher. Former top 100 recruit leaving IU. Originally from Wisconsin. Calbert and Tanner may have some connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Is he going to make a visit to SLU or just consider them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Is he going to make a visit to SLU or just consider them. I would assume he plans on visiting if he hasnt already. It's probably a good thing we haven't heard anything after his visit to Mizzou yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Not sure what you're getting at, but I think your man card shall be suspended for "tee hee"! "Heh heh" is okay, but never "tee hee"! Somebody want to tell him, or has no one at all on the board been paying attention? (Well, I know Roy was, but, well, so much for that doing me any good. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Somebody want to tell him, or has no one at all on the board been paying attention? (Well, I know Roy was, but, well, so much for that doing me any good. ) I'm just an MBM but I believe you (like many others) have been "let go" and are no longer in the employ of the paper. If I am wrong I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would assume he plans on visiting if he hasnt already. It's probably a good thing we haven't heard anything after his visit to Mizzou yesterday Where did you hear he visited there? This was reported an hour ago and no mention that a visit happened - http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu_basketball/former-st-louis-prep-star-biedscheid-eyes-tigers-after-leaving/article_842d9264-7057-11e3-a6b0-001a4bcf6878.html BTW, for those who want to see a real example of "shilling" - the ending to the above article would be just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Somebody want to tell him, or has no one at all on the board been paying attention? (Well, I know Roy was, but, well, so much for that doing me any good. ) I think this may be a case of mid thread interruptus in which the reader begins reading mid thread and missed critical points preceding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'm just an MBM but I believe you (like many others) have been "let go" and are no longer in the employ of the paper. If I am wrong I apologize. No, you are correct, except I did the letting go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Where did you hear he visited there? This was reported an hour ago and no mention that a visit happened - http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu_basketball/former-st-louis-prep-star-biedscheid-eyes-tigers-after-leaving/article_842d9264-7057-11e3-a6b0-001a4bcf6878.html BTW, for those who want to see a real example of "shilling" - the ending to the above article would be just that. I think I read that article on Sunday. Not sure why its now listed as a Monday afternoon article. Its too bad that last paragraph didn't mention that they already have a 4 star transfer from Baylor at the same position as Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think I read that article on Sunday. Not sure why its now listed as a Monday afternoon article. Its too bad that last paragraph didn't mention that they already have a 4 star transfer from Baylor at the same position as Cam Well at least the last paragraph didn't talk up the attractive signing bonuses and strip club visits Haith has been known to offer. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/frank-haith-wrist-slap-suspension-far-too-lenient-164639441--ncaab.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Strip clubs in Boone County? I think I'd take a pass on those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well at least the last paragraph didn't talk up the attractive signing bonuses and strip club visits Haith has been known to offer. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/frank-haith-wrist-slap-suspension-far-too-lenient-164639441--ncaab.html I think the lesson in that article is, it's bad to BBQ a pig for a recruit, but it's ok to wallow in the mud like a pig when you're out recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Strip clubs in Boone County? I think I'd take a pass on those. Ive been to one. I dont remember the women but I do remember that they didnt serve beer. WTF? A strip club without booze? Only super perverts go to strip clubs and drink juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliKat Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Lol. My friends sister worked at one for a while. Had a tattoo of a smashed dead fairy under one breast and a car jack under the other.... She was pretty funny.... But they served booze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 No, you are correct, except I did the letting go. Okay. Then I guess you're a loyal former employee defending your former employer by spinning the company line. I still believe the Post favors Mizzou coverage -- more likely intentionally than subconsciously. And that's not to say I'm going to complain about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Lol. My friends sister worked at one for a while. Had a tattoo of a smashed dead fairy under one breast and a car jack under the other.... She was pretty funny.... But they served booze. Pics or GTFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Pics or GTFO. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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