jimbofive Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Only super perverts go to strip clubs and drink juice. truf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Lol. My friends sister worked at one for a while. Had a tattoo of a smashed dead fairy under one breast and a car jack under the other.... She was pretty funny.... But they served booze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ben W. is out of the country so he won't be breaking any news most likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Only super perverts go to strip clubs and drink juice. Or they're like jimbo and have a locker with booze at the strip club. I know some of those all-nude CO joints allow the BYOB/store it in a locker option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ben W. is out of the country so he won't be breaking any news most likely That's ok, Timmermann will be doing some digging on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ben W. is out of the country so he won't be breaking any news most likely INS...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well at least the last paragraph didn't talk up the attractive signing bonuses and strip club visits Haith has been known to offer. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/frank-haith-wrist-slap-suspension-far-too-lenient-164639441--ncaab.html Absurd ... still feel Haith isn't dirty after reading the above yahoo article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think we all know that if Biedscheid comes to SLU, we'll win a National Championship and he'll be a top 10 pick in the NBA Draft. It'll open up doors to all the top local recruits and the top recruits all around the country. We'll be in the Big East and tickets to games will be the toughest ticket in town every year. If he goes to Mizzou he'll ride the bench for his career on NIT and CBI teams that will forfeit their wins anyway due to numerous violations. Well actually that will happen whether he goes to Mizzou or not but still. But in all seriousness, hopefully he makes a decision either way soon. Would be nice if our staff could get out and see some recruits during this winter break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Absurd ... still feel Haith isn't dirty after reading the above yahoo article? What article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ACE, quoted by Skip just above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Well at least the last paragraph didn't talk up the attractive signing bonuses and strip club visits Haith has been known to offer. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/frank-haith-wrist-slap-suspension-far-too-lenient-164639441--ncaab.html The one linked in the post I quoted before and again above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 ACE, quoted by Skip just above. I don't read that poster's contributions. There are some posters who can drive away longtime loyal posters -- even ones who've become listeners of the streets or even reached Billiken_Roy levels of posting -- but I think I'll just ignore such posters and hang around. Anyway, once Haith stopped proclaiming total innocence and accepted his five-game suspension, I concluded that he's not lily-white. (I'm not sure many coaches are, though.) I don't know all of the details, but given his inability to tell the NCAA the same thing more than once, one of his assistant coaches did something he shouldn't have and Haith opted to look out for his boy -- bail him out rather than rat him out. I'm not going to vilify him for that. So, I don't think he intentionally cheated, but he didn't go by the letter of the law, either. To some of you it means he's dirty, has always been dirty, and will always be dirty. To me it means he made some mistakes that he better clean up and has hopefully already done the necessary steps to do so. It certainly doesn't help ameliorate the bad taste that's been in the mouths of some Mizzou fans, including me, since 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I don't read that poster's contributions. There are some posters who can drive away longtime loyal posters -- even ones who've become listeners of the streets or even reached Billiken_Roy levels of posting -- but I think I'll just ignore such posters and hang around. Anyway, once Haith stopped proclaiming total innocence and accepted his five-game suspension, I concluded that he's not lily-white. (I'm not sure many coaches are, though.) I don't know all of the details, but given his inability to tell the NCAA the same thing more than once, one of his assistant coaches did something he shouldn't have and Haith opted to look out for his boy -- bail him out rather than rat him out. I'm not going to vilify him for that. So, I don't think he intentionally cheated, but he didn't go by the letter of the law, either. To some of you it means he's dirty, has always been dirty, and will always be dirty. To me it means he made some mistakes that he better clean up and has hopefully already done the necessary steps to do so. It certainly doesn't help ameliorate the bad taste that's been in the mouths of some Mizzou fans, including me, since 2003. Probably worth a read: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/frank-haith-wrist-slap-suspension-far-too-lenient-164639441--ncaab.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Probably worth a read: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/frank-haith-wrist-slap-suspension-far-too-lenient-164639441--ncaab.html Yikes! To answer the writer's question, the reason that Haith's penalty wasn't much greater than a five-game suspension is that the NCAA royally screwed up its investigation. Had that not happened, Mizzou would be looking for a new coach for this season and probably also a new AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yikes! To answer the writer's question, the reason that Haith's penalty wasn't much greater than a five-game suspension is that the NCAA royally screwed up its investigation. Had that not happened, Mizzou would be looking for a new coach for this season and probably also a new AD. The NCAA could have crushed Miami's entire athletic department if they handled things right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The NCAA could have crushed Miami's entire athletic department if they handled things right. Which would have been too bad for the programs that aren't football and men's basketball. Another thing I wonder is if Haith was really cheating, why didn't he produce better results on the court? If you're mediocre clean and mediocre cheating, are you really in the ideal profession? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Which would have been too bad for the programs that aren't football and men's basketball. Another thing I wonder is if Haith was really cheating, why didn't he produce better results on the court? If you're mediocre clean and mediocre cheating, are you really in the ideal profession? If the NCAA would have dismantled Miami football.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Ron Ekker cheated and we sure didn't win. Lot's of losing coaches cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Absurd Bills Fan, I am not criticizing anyone and certainly not you, however Bonwich with his inside connection to the PD has what I see as a valid point of view. When you are fighting for your life, as the PD is, you do not do what is correct but instead you do what you think will sell. And yes, I fully believe that people working for the paper are stretched very thin and have to do all kinds of things they do not want to do. I read sometime ago that another major paper in Chicago (the Tribune ?, not sure who it was) had laid off all of their photographers after deciding all they needed was to have reporters on the beat taking pictures with their smart phones. I think Bonwich is not in the path of kowtowing to his employer, but rather is in the path of explaining that right or wrong a business will do exactly what they think they need to do in order to survive! Again, I post this with no intention of upsetting or insulting anyone, and I am not stating that what the PD is doing is either right or wrong.As newspapers spin out of control toward their total demise they flounder around and end up losing the people that were buying papers in the first place. Once or twice one looks for something in paper and when striking out turns to the web and a few clicks later you find it and paper becomes less relevant. I got 3 papers a day for 20 some years but one at a time I've quit them with Post being last. The waste of the paper and all of that is reason enough but their constant changing and dumbing down of paper itself makes it lot less desirable product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Legend Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I for one still love reading the paper every day. It is obviously still relevant around here, because everyone loves bitching about it. All in all, I think the Post still does a pretty good job with their sports page. Their food section has also really taken off since they got rid of that old dude, hah hah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I for one still love reading the paper every day. It is obviously still relevant around here, because everyone loves bitching about it. All in all, I think the Post still does a pretty good job with their sports page. Their food section has also really taken off since they got rid of that old dude, hah hah. Im with you. For some reaso I find reading the paper in the morning while drinking a cup of coffee much more relaxing than getting online and reading it that way. Its like my last bit of down time before the day starts. I dont get that online where I have emails beeping at me and porn to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The NCAA could have crushed Miami's entire athletic department if they handled things right. If you know all the facts then please share. I am curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Y'all aren't looking at the evidence if you think TT isn't doing his job. TT doesn't avoid recruiting stories merely because he doesn't like to do them. Sure, maybe they're not his favorite -- but do a little search on StLToday and see what TT is forced to crank out, as opposed to what Matter is forced to crank out. In the past few months, in addition to SLU, TT has done boxing, non-SLU soccer, World Series backup, contribution to year-end (non-SLU) pieces and several other topics. Matter does...Mizzou. (I'm pretty sure he even lives in Columbia -- the prior beat writer did.) And despite all this yentzing about Mizzou bias, everybody in this thread has ignored what I pointed out a few pages back, namely, that the paper didn't even send a writer to a game against North Carolina State! But AlumniFan pretty much summed it up. The problem isn't that the P-D "favors" one team over the other. The problem is that newspapers in general, and the P-D in particular, just keeps groping around looking for some magic bullet without ever acknowledging that its fundamental model is completely broken. The problem is that newspapers have always made, and still make, the bulk of their profits from hardcopy advertising. Yet despite the fact that the sports section has a huge amount of locally produced copy and a relatively big budget, it doesn't have any ads. (Check out today's section for illustration.) Anyway, let's also point out that while the Post didn't send anyone to Raleigh, it did send someone to Nashville, in fact far enough in advance that he filed his preview story from there: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/billikens-more-confident-on-the-road/article_59e55d72-9d47-5132-9f2c-c345333df2bd.html Bonwich. I get that the Post failed to send a reporter to cover a MIzzou basketball game. I get that the Post is eliminating positions and is extremely shorthanded. I get that TT handles other duties and writes articles about other topics. But lack of resources and staff to cover a non conference game against a non ranked team which is far away does not refute bias. Ace. If the Post's only mistake was its political view! I would still be subscribing and reading. I used to read the Post to get recruiting tips and team scoop from Sondregger and Eisenbath. TT has been boring with no insight or scoop. Frankly, the Post stopped providing me with information I wanted and stories which interested me... And I've never looked back. In the past, SLU always had a beat writer but never an exclusive beat writer as Sondregger wrote not only about the Bills bit also NASCAR, then the Bills and local politics, etc. Eisenbath covered the Bills and highschools sports. TT handles a number of topics. In contrast, the Post had guys like doerr, vahe and others cover Mizzou all year long. Then, throw in favorable pieces and stories from Broegg, to Horrigan to Burwell to Gordon. Ace. When SLU did play well under Spoon, the coverage did improve but so did the backhand compliments, the unnecessary comparisons such as how our big win over Cincy wasn't as good as Mizzou's win over KU, the constant digs about our program in places like Mr Antler's Tipsheet and the gratuitous advice those without knowledge or interest of SLU bad mouthing our conferences and telling us that we need to be in the Valley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Bonwich. I get that the Post failed to send a reporter to cover a MIzzou basketball game. I get that the Post is eliminating positions and is extremely shorthanded. I get that TT handles other duties and writes articles about other topics. But lack of resources and staff to cover a non conference game against a non ranked team which is far away does not refute bias. Ace. If the Post's only mistake was its political view! I would still be subscribing and reading. I used to read the Post to get recruiting tips and team scoop from Sondregger and Eisenbath. TT has been boring with no insight or scoop. Frankly, the Post stopped providing me with information I wanted and stories which interested me... And I've never looked back. In the past, SLU always had a beat writer but never an exclusive beat writer as Sondregger wrote not only about the Bills bit also NASCAR, then the Bills and local politics, etc. Eisenbath covered the Bills and highschools sports. TT handles a number of topics. In contrast, the Post had guys like doerr, vahe and others cover Mizzou all year long. Then, throw in favorable pieces and stories from Broegg, to Horrigan to Burwell to Gordon. Ace. When SLU did play well under Spoon, the coverage did improve but so did the backhand compliments, the unnecessary comparisons such as how our big win over Cincy wasn't as good as Mizzou's win over KU, the constant digs about our program in places like Mr Antler's Tipsheet and the gratuitous advice those without knowledge or interest of SLU bad mouthing our conferences and telling us that we need to be in the Valley. Exactly. The SL Post has finessed SLU for 40+ years that I know of... and also overhyped and kissed Missouri University's ass galore. Small minds cannot always detect the subtleties, the implications, the backhand compliments, that we see all of the time. Though even small minds have to notice MU on the front page, a photo of a graceful MU player taking a jump shot in color, and the same day SLU on the 6th page with a black and white picture of a Billiken in a clumsy position as the ball slips through his hands, his eyes looking in the wrong direction. The MU shills have to be laughing their asses off when they go over the top like that.... but mostly, it is subtle carefully worded propaganda, every single time. It goes well beyond the proportions of the population that went to Missouri, it is about warped journalism, misinformation, spinning, favoritism. I know "Tee-hee" Bonwich will tell us differently, go down with the ship, but nope, that is how it has been for 40+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Exactly. The SL Post has finessed SLU for 40+ years that I know of... and also overhyped and kissed Missouri University's ass galore. Small minds cannot always detect the subtleties, the implications, the backhand compliments, that we see all of the time. Though even small minds have to notice MU on the front page, a photo of a graceful MU player taking a jump shot in color, and the same day SLU on the 6th page with a black and white picture of a Billiken in a clumsy position as the ball slips through his hands, his eyes looking in the wrong direction. The MU shills have to be laughing their asses off when they go over the top like that.... but mostly, it is subtle carefully worded propaganda, every single time. It goes well beyond the proportions of the population that went to Missouri, it is about warped journalism, misinformation, spinning, favoritism. I know "Tee-hee" Bonwich will tell us differently, go down with the ship, but nope, that is how it has been for 40+ years. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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