Major A-10 Weakness tonight

[SLU_Nick]

Dayton loses to East Tenn St

Fordham loses by 30 to Harvard

Xavier loses to Miami of OH

Richmond loses to Old Dominion

Charlotte loses to East Carolina

Saint Joes loses to Drexel

GW loses to George Mason by 20.

OUCH!

(UMASS beat Quinnipac and Temple beat Central Michigan)

A weak A-10 might be good news for us this year though...

-Nick

[Bizziken]

Dayton loses to East Tenn St

Fordham loses by 30 to Harvard

Xavier loses to Miami of OH

Richmond loses to Old Dominion

Charlotte loses to East Carolina

Saint Joes loses to Drexel

GW loses to George Mason by 20.

OUCH!

(UMASS beat Quinnipac and Temple beat Central Michigan)

A weak A-10 might be good news for us this year though...

UMass is 7-0...Wtf?!?!

Dayton was at home too...

[kshoe]

UMass is 7-0...Wtf?!?!

Dayton was at home too...

The A-10 tonight was as bad as the Pelican's interior defense on Tuesday. Over a two day period the league goes 2-9 with the only decent loss was being Richmond to Old Dominion. Just horrible.

[The Wiz]

Here is what I had for tonight.....

Harvard by 18 over Fordham....won by 23

Old Dom by 1 over Richmond ...won by 7

Geo Mason by 17 over GW...won by 14

E Carolina by 6 over Charlotte....won by 1

Drexel by 17 over St. Joe....won by 12

Temple by 6 over Cent Mich....won by 12

UMass by 1 over Quinn...won by 2

Pitt by 13 over Duq....won by 14

Dayton by 1 over E Tenn St.....Lost by 5

Xavier by 6 over Mia OH ...lost by 11

So the only real surprise of the night was Xavier's loss. Dayton was favored by 1 so that wasn't a big deal. Most of these teams that beat the A-10 teams were pretty good.(except maybe Mia OH...that shouldn't have happened)

I think Richmond is the best team in the league right now. They lost to a very tough Old Dom team. I think Dayton is the most over rated team in the conference and Duq is the most under rated. I would rank the Bills 8th in the A-10 at this point.

[Cowboy]

I think Dayton is the most over rated team in the conference

-granted, we have little room to talk when it comes to how good we are, but the above seems to be a recurring theme

[MB73]

But, but... the A-10 is so great. Catholic institutions, that is very important, VERY important that we have a basketball program in a Catholic league. And RPI, don't forget about RPI. A-10 kicks ass in RPI.

[Pistol]

But, but... the A-10 is so great. Catholic institutions, that is very important, VERY important that we have a basketball program in a Catholic league. And RPI, don't forget about RPI. A-10 kicks ass in RPI.

I knew it was coming.

The Valley is doing even worse than the A10 this year, for what it's worth.

[MB73]

I knew it was coming.

The Valley is doing even worse than the A10 this year, for what it's worth.

No, MVC is ahead of the A-10 by two slots. Do not make things up.

Rank Conference Avg. RPI Avg. SOS SOS Rank Teams

1 Big East 0.6151 0.5604 2 16

2 Big Ten 0.5957 0.5337 5 11

3 Big 12 0.5680 0.5081 10 12

4 Atlantic Coast 0.5675 0.5418 3 12

5 Mountain West 0.5453 0.4837 21 9

6 Southeastern 0.5384 0.5051 11 12

7 Horizon League 0.5336 0.5088 9 10

8 Missouri Valley 0.5280 0.5198 8 10

9 Conference USA 0.5271 0.4867 19 12

10 Atlantic 10 0.5157 0.4767 26 14

[Pistol]

The RPI is horseshit at this point. Give it a couple weeks and that will reflect reality. Both conferences are having a rough year.

And look, I'm really, really sorry we didn't go to your beloved Midwestern tomato can conference. If we ever do, I will cancel my season tickets and you can take those seats.

[Clock_Tower]

Very impressive 8th place ranking!! You really should be proud!! Sure seems like the Valley has regained its national status!! A national championship is right around the corner... Great job!!

No, MVC is ahead of the A-10 by two slots. Do not make things up.

Rank Conference Avg. RPI Avg. SOS SOS Rank Teams

1 Big East 0.6151 0.5604 2 16

2 Big Ten 0.5957 0.5337 5 11

3 Big 12 0.5680 0.5081 10 12

4 Atlantic Coast 0.5675 0.5418 3 12

5 Mountain West 0.5453 0.4837 21 9

6 Southeastern 0.5384 0.5051 11 12

7 Horizon League 0.5336 0.5088 9 10

8 Missouri Valley 0.5280 0.5198 8 10

9 Conference USA 0.5271 0.4867 19 12

10 Atlantic 10 0.5157 0.4767 26 14

[moytoy12]

No, MVC is ahead of the A-10 by two slots. Do not make things up.

Rank Conference Avg. RPI Avg. SOS SOS Rank Teams

1 Big East 0.6151 0.5604 2 16

2 Big Ten 0.5957 0.5337 5 11

3 Big 12 0.5680 0.5081 10 12

4 Atlantic Coast 0.5675 0.5418 3 12

5 Mountain West 0.5453 0.4837 21 9

6 Southeastern 0.5384 0.5051 11 12

7 Horizon League 0.5336 0.5088 9 10

8 Missouri Valley 0.5280 0.5198 8 10

9 Conference USA 0.5271 0.4867 19 12

10 Atlantic 10 0.5157 0.4767 26 14

Sagarin disagrees: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1011.htm. Even in a big time down year for the A-10, it is still slightly ahead or close to equal to the MVC.

Regardless, I'm not beating my chest because we are closely ranked in comparison to the MVC. The A-10 is a better conference and should have bigger aspirations than being better than the MVC every year.

[billikenfan05]

Excuse me while I go vomit!

[drkelsey55]

Sagarin disagrees: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1011.htm. Even in a big time down year for the A-10, it is still slightly ahead or close to equal to the MVC.

Regardless, I'm not beating my chest because we are closely ranked in comparison to the MVC. The A-10 is a better conference and should have bigger aspirations than being better than the MVC every year.

Pomeroy has the A10 9th and the Valley 10th.

[MB73]

The RPI is horseshit at this point. Give it a couple weeks and that will reflect reality. Both conferences are having a rough year.

And look, I'm really, really sorry we didn't go to your beloved Midwestern tomato can conference. If we ever do, I will cancel my season tickets and you can take those seats.

My seats are better than yours, I don't want yours.

Yes, the A-10 pulled away from the MVC last yr, and will likely pass MVC up this yr at some point.

I do not love the MVC, I really do not, I just know that going back 8 yrs it would have been better for SLU than the A-10 for many reasons, as it will be going forward. When Majerus leaves, it will be even more clear to you.

Our program just had a huge setback, it may not recover, and when Majerus leaves, there goes the top notch recruiting we have enjoyed.

[The Pelican]

No, MVC is ahead of the A-10 by two slots. Do not make things up.

Rank Conference Avg. RPI Avg. SOS SOS Rank Teams

1 Big East 0.6151 0.5604 2 16

2 Big Ten 0.5957 0.5337 5 11

3 Big 12 0.5680 0.5081 10 12

4 Atlantic Coast 0.5675 0.5418 3 12

5 Mountain West 0.5453 0.4837 21 9

6 Southeastern 0.5384 0.5051 11 12

7 Horizon League 0.5336 0.5088 9 10

8 Missouri Valley 0.5280 0.5198 8 10

9 Conference USA 0.5271 0.4867 19 12

10 Atlantic 10 0.5157 0.4767 26 14

I watched the University of Evansville vs. Butler game last weekend. I could not believe the Aces pulled that off. U of E plays UNC at E'ville on the 8th for a homecoming for Tyler Zeller. The MVC is doing better this year than I would have thought.

[slu72]

My seats are better than yours, I don't want yours.

Yes, the A-10 pulled away from the MVC last yr, and will likely pass MVC up this yr at some point.

I do not love the MVC, I really do not, I just know that going back 8 yrs it would have been better for SLU than the A-10 for many reasons, as it will be going forward. When Majerus leaves, it will be even more clear to you.

Our program just had a huge setback, it may not recover, and when Majerus leaves, there goes the top notch recruiting we have enjoyed.

When RM leaves it doesn't necessarily follow recruiting will leave with him. It will all depend upon his replacement. PM seems the logical choice since he's done a lot of the recuiting. If not him, then I'd hope the AD and Fr. Biondi would have the good sense to not take a step backward and hire a good young up and comer.

[Iggy]

When RM leaves it doesn't necessarily follow recruiting will leave with him. It will all depend upon his replacement. PM seems the logical choice since he's done a lot of the recuiting. If not him, then I'd hope the AD and Fr. Biondi would have the good sense to not take a step backward and hire a good young up and comer.

It will be Brian Gregory. Too guarantees it.

[ACE]

It will be Brian Gregory. Too guarantees it.

Haha! I remember joey fleugel also touted a guy named Jay John, who turned out to be a complete bust in his first and only head coaching job.

[doowop]

When RM leaves it doesn't necessarily follow recruiting will leave with him. It will all depend upon his replacement. PM seems the logical choice since he's done a lot of the recuiting. If not him, then I'd hope the AD and Fr. Biondi would have the good sense to not take a step backward and hire a good young up and comer.

slu72 what do you mean by your last sentence? SLU should hire a good young up and comer or hiring a good young up and comer would be a step backward? I also do not think recruiting will be negatively affected if PM stays on in some capacity. It may well improve because PM may recruit physically stronger players than what RM has recruited.

[MB73]

slu72 what do you mean by your last sentence? SLU should hire a good young up and comer or hiring a good young up and comer would be a step backward? I also do not think recruiting will be negatively affected if PM stays on in some capacity. It may well improve because PM may recruit physically stronger players than what RM has recruited.

Majerus has, by far, been our best recruiter ever, especially for bigs. Do you disagree?

PM is a good man but he is getting players who want to be developed and play for Majerus. It will be different when RM is gone.

[Quality Is Job 1]

Majerus has, by far, been our best recruiter ever, especially for bigs. Do you disagree?

PM is a good man but he is getting players who want to be developed and play for Majerus. It will be different when RM is gone.

I'll disagree, because Larry Hughes was the Bills' best ever recruiter. The problem is that his reign of influence lasted only two years. And then Lee Winfield may have been the second-best recruiter.

[Tonka]

I'll disagree, because Larry Hughes was the Bills' best ever recruiter. The problem is that his reign of influence lasted only two years. And then Lee Winfield may have been the second-best recruiter.

? Thicks, please explain.

[thetorch]

? Thicks, please explain.

Larry Hughes attracted other players to play at SLU. His whole class of recruits, Baniak, Tatum, Heinrich and then Justin Love also. If we could have gotten Lamar Odom into school here, he would have come to.

Lee Winfield of course was along with Rich responsible for Bonner, Gray, Douglas, and then the Claggett, Highmark, Winfield, Bickel, Smith class.

[Quality Is Job 1]

? Thicks, please explain.

I was partly joking, but the point is that it was a lot because of Hughes that some of SLU's best players in the past 15 years came.

[For-DaLove]

I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I just don't believe Moser is a good head coach, and I don't feel as though he should replace RM. He has shown an ability to recruit, but his track record of actually winning games isn't great.