Billiken Rich Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, White Pelican said: Don't you tell him what to do! Man a pelican cut me when I tried to hand feed him a fish in Florida this spring. I hate pelicans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 48 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: You can’t help yourself can you? You fuoking troll. For talking SLU basketball l? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: For talking SLU basketball l? Don’t play dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierBilliken Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Moderators, I respectfully request that hsmith19 get a warning flag for his constant hateful slandering. I believe few on this board want to hear him argue with me or others. I have kept quiet (mostly because I have a job), while this raging, race-baiting, gender-biased, legal novice lunatic has been allowed to throw around slanderous and false accusations upon posters, such as my innocent self. He is beyond any critical thinking, is obviously angry, cannot construct a rational argument to save his life, and it leads to less enjoyment from other posters. I would love to respond to his nonsense, but there is no reasoning with fools and would like to save the rest of the posters from such anguish. I humbly ask that you take action. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Who do you think the starting 5 will be? Slu or Mizzou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I may be the outlier, but thus far I have been impressed by how the university is handling this version of the situation. The public statements were all professional and timely. They have taken efforts to protect the names of both the accused and the accusers. They are hiring an external law firm to manage the internal process (rather than let academics run it), and someone has ensured the accused have top representation (as opposed to a law student). In fact, I don't even know the names of all 4 of the accused even though I am a long-time season ticket holder, billiken club member, and connected fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 SLU. I was thinking the transfers and freshman would start, but was wondering if Anthony transferred to get a starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Billiken Rich said: How else would you do an investigation and be fair to the accused. The problem now is that the accused is guilty until proven innocent. There is a popular feminist theory that rape, assault, and misconduct are what the alleged victim says they are and that victims do not ever accuse falsely. This is not true You cannot be fair to the accused by punishing them without allowing them to face and cross examine their accuser. I know that can be traumatic but be it court or a disciplinary hearing at school it's just not fair any other way. If a girl says it is rape then it may very well be. Of course unless a video or other info says otherwise. Unfortunately you are correct. No way not to let the accused to be able to present their defense. What keeps coming to my mind is even if the video was shown without the girls permission or knowledge then the girls are in more trouble for false police report. I would think both sides could decide to drop both issues and move on. Once this investigation is over more will be known as to what may happen. My other question is if the names were shared on Twitter then why are people reticent to share info that already was made public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 hours ago, prebilliken said: Is there a way to get an alert when relevant and non-opinionated information on the situation comes to the board's attention? The cost of that feature would require a heck of a fundraiser.... ... if a moderator who never deletes/hides posts deletes or hides posts (e.g. the Duke back and forth from earlier) regarding a certain topic, probably a good idea stop posting about that topic or engaging in that debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: SLU. I was thinking the transfers and freshman would start, but was wondering if Anthony transferred to get a starting spot. Why don't you start a new thread if you're so interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: SLU. I was thinking the transfers and freshman would start, but was wondering if Anthony transferred to get a starting spot. You asked that in this thread? Not only are you a troll but this is honestly pathetic behavior. I hope you find something better to do with your time' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, NH said: You asked that in this thread? Not only are you a troll but this is honestly pathetic behavior. I hope you find something better to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 3 hours ago, HoosierBilliken said: Moderators, I respectfully request that hsmith19 get a warning flag for his constant hateful slandering. I believe few on this board want to hear him argue with me or others. I have kept quiet (mostly because I have a job), while this raging, race-baiting, gender-biased, legal novice lunatic has been allowed to throw around slanderous and false accusations upon posters, such as my innocent self. He is beyond any critical thinking, is obviously angry, cannot construct a rational argument to save his life, and it leads to less enjoyment from other posters. I would love to respond to his nonsense, but there is no reasoning with fools and would like to save the rest of the posters from such anguish. I humbly ask that you take action. Thank you HoosierBilliken, the easiest way to handle posters that you detest is to use the ignore button. Let them talk to themselves. This will save you wear and tear and make you have a pleasant experience in this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 4 hours ago, davidnark said: I may be the outlier, but thus far I have been impressed by how the university is handling this version of the situation. The public statements were all professional and timely. They have taken efforts to protect the names of both the accused and the accusers. They are hiring an external law firm to manage the internal process (rather than let academics run it), and someone has ensured the accused have top representation (as opposed to a law student). In fact, I don't even know the names of all 4 of the accused even though I am a long-time season ticket holder, billiken club member, and connected fan. Agree with everything you say. I don't know the names either I'm sure if I went searching I could find them but it's nice to know the University and this board are doing a good job of keeping the names on both sides a secret. Hopefully this gets sorted out soon and we can all move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 hours ago, dlarry said: Agree with everything you say. I don't know the names either I'm sure if I went searching I could find them but it's nice to know the University and this board are doing a good job of keeping the names on both sides a secret. Hopefully this gets sorted out soon and we can all move on. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierBilliken Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Old guy said: HoosierBilliken, the easiest way to handle posters that you detest is to use the ignore button. Let them talk to themselves. This will save you wear and tear and make you have a pleasant experience in this board. Sound advice. When hsmith19 or Vtime throw bombs in this forum, I just want to help them avoid their error. I give much credit to Vtime in that he can keep a discussion civil. When hsmith19 was challenged in his views, the poor man lost his mind and soul. He is a prisoner of his own hate, bias, and prejudice. I feel sorry for him. There is still hope for hsmith19. I believe a man can change for the better and learn to love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 It's hard to discuss rape accusations because of men how we're hardwired. Back in the cavemen days, we just refused to talk about it because the idea of our sisters and daughters being violated made us extremely uncomfortable. In our current reactionary climate, there's a tendency to immediately throw young men under the bus who are accused because it makes us feel like we're doing something. When that perspective is challenged, you're going to get a backlash. I don't take it personally. It's an emotional issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Dear Stu Durando, If you want to ignore SLU basketball, please ignore the scandals too. NextYearBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: Dear Stu Durando, If you want to ignore SLU basketball, please ignore the scandals too. NextYearBill Yeah he's miracously back from the dead it appears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Wonder if Stu is going to sit outside of Chaifetz today to see who is coming and going? #journalism #scoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, FromDaEastSide said: Wonder if Stu is going to sit outside of Chaifetz today to see who is coming and going? #journalism #scoops nah he'll just read this board. #lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 It seems to me, someone at the Post could go to people at the STLMPD and easily get a sources tell us story on that part of the story. It seems that isn't the story they want to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 33 minutes ago, brianstl said: It seems to me, someone at the Post could go to people at the STLMPD and easily get a sources tell us story on that part of the story. It seems that isn't the story they want to tell. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 This story does not read well anyway you try to tell it or spin it. Best to let the investigation come to its conclusion and deal with it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Unfortunately, this is news. It would be nice to get some positive stories too but I can't fault the post for it's coverage in this case. Their story about the lawyers involved couldn't have been more pro player. billiken_roy likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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