The Wiz Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 General Outlook......So USU is projecting at 3rd in the MWC and a Big Dance participant...last 4 in ...56% chance to Dance...Why is this under general outlook? USU was hanging on at the end of the game and escaped with a victory...that game was winnable (see post game USU wrap up). It shows that we can play with top teams AND have a chance to win as long as we make some shots. ...particularly 2s. The other point here in discussing USU as it relates to the general outlook is that after the game USU is now an A- team ...They moved up because they beat us by 5. The take away is that USU is better right now than any team in the A10. The fact that we played toe to toe with them right down to the finish bodes well for us in conference play. Game Preview....Both The Bills and SIU are B- teams. The Bills are better on offense and SIU is better on D. ...It's pretty close on the stats ...the spread is pretty much home field advantage. Xavier Johnson is Mr. Saluki. I wouldn't say he is the whole team...but he just about is. Game should be close....if we make shots (especially 2s) , we win this game. Report Card.... ..Report card after the last game is negative...1 up ...3 down Let's see what things look like.... ...................SLU......................SIU........................SLU.............................SIU .................................OFF..........................................................DEF............. PPG...............C+.......................C.............................C-..................................B FG%...............D+........................C............................D+................................C- 3P%...............A-.........................B.............................B+................................A- FT%...............B...........................C+.................................................................. Reb...............D-..........................D+.............................F.................................B+ OFF Rebs = total rebs...DEF Rebs = opp reb UP...............Off....FT%..........Def.....none Down.........Off......PPG...Reb.......Def....PPG...FG%...3P% Top 100 In The Nation SLU FT%...Jimerson...72nd...92.7% SIU PPG...Johnson...16th Asst... " "........82nd FT%......." " ......86th...92.2% Injury /Illness report and misc The Bills.... Parker ....Nov 17....Foot...fractured foot...out indefinitely SIU... Sharp....G...Foot..Nov 6....out till mid Dec Hornecker...C....Ankle...Nov 6...out indefinitely Keys to the Game......Stop Johnson and don't foul him...see top 100...The Bills need to make some 2s....play 40 min...play like we did against USU in the final 4 min...in fact if we put up the same game slash we did against USU( a much better team on off & def than SIU) we win. WWN2D2W...Target slash...47/51/40/75....Hold Johnson to 15 pts...Beat them on TOs and steals to make up for any rebound deficit. Rebounding should be closer this game.....Hold them to 70 pts. Bottom line....If we play a full 40 min and don't dog it , we can send the Salukis back to the kennel. CenHudDude likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 SIU by 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 -3 seasons in a row we've lost our first road game but the opponents were likely better than SIU, those being Auburn, Memphis and MInnesota -how does the team react to being challenged that they are not Jordan Goodwin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Cowboy II said: -3 seasons in a row we've lost our first road game but the opponents were likely better than SIU, those being Auburn, Memphis and MInnesota -how does the team react to being challenged that they are not Jordan Goodwin? This is actually going to be an interesting opportunity to see how this team handles being on the road against a team favored to beat them. I’m looking for them to show me what they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I just don't see us losing to SIUC. There's a team that gets some hype every year and just doesn't come through. I know it's a weird place to play but I'll take my chances on a Saturday afternoon game in December against a middle of the pack MVC team even on the road. There is enough experience on this team that being on the road shouldn't be that big of a detriment. TomM and TheChosenOne like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, slufan13 said: I just don't see us losing to SIUC. There's a team that gets some hype every year and just doesn't come through. I know it's a weird place to play but I'll take my chances on a Saturday afternoon game in December against a middle of the pack MVC team even on the road. There is enough experience on this team that being on the road shouldn't be that big of a detriment. their bigs are nothing special, so thats good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 12:42 PM, slufan13 said: I just don't see us losing to SIUC. There's a team that gets some hype every year and just doesn't come through. I know it's a weird place to play but I'll take my chances on a Saturday afternoon game in December against a middle of the pack MVC team even on the road. There is enough experience on this team that being on the road shouldn't be that big of a detriment. Same. They also appear to be down one starter with a foot injury, so truly a game you have to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 12:42 PM, slufan13 said: I just don't see us losing to SIUC. There's a team that gets some hype every year and just doesn't come through. I know it's a weird place to play but I'll take my chances on a Saturday afternoon game in December against a middle of the pack MVC team even on the road. There is enough experience on this team that being on the road shouldn't be that big of a detriment. There are many paths to victory in this game. The computer sees these 2 teams as even...the difference being home field advantage. The Bills need to focus on one path and "slash" their way to a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 12:47 PM, wgstl said: their bigs are nothing special, so thats good They will be tomorrow. wgstl, SLU_Nick, CenHudDude and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 12:42 PM, slufan13 said: I just don't see us losing to SIUC. There's a team that gets some hype every year and just doesn't come through. I know it's a weird place to play but I'll take my chances on a Saturday afternoon game in December against a middle of the pack MVC team even on the road. There is enough experience on this team that being on the road shouldn't be that big of a detriment. That’s right you don’t see us losing to SIUC, you see us losing to METHDALE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 Just a quick last minor adjustment... SIU by 3 The updated program is more sensitive than the older version....enough where it can still alter the spread even if neither team has played since the original forecast. It still shows SIU winning (the difference is still home field advantage) BUT by revising the spread the computer has for the first time cut into the home field advantage. The significance of this change is...while the computer thinks the 2 teams are evenly matched on a neutral court the Bills would have a slight edge ...Bills by 1.... ie The Bills are the better team by a hair. The other take away from the data is there is a difference between the USU game and the SIU game.....The USU game showed wild swings in the game which it decided made the game even but very volatile. This game should be more even in a traditional sense...less volatile closer to even throughout the game....a number of lead changes....a more enjoyable overall game experience than the USU game. Bottom line...X marks the spot...stop X = W...This game is winnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 18 hours ago, TheChosenOne said: Same. They also appear to be down one starter with a foot injury, so truly a game you have to win. It is. And with multiple 4+ year guys in your starting lineup, I'm not buying the road game excuse. TheChosenOne likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, The Wiz said: The updated program is more sensitive than the older version.... Obviously you are letting your computer hang out with ChatGPT way too much! willie likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 TheChosenOne likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Your computer sux bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 His computer works fine, it’s just a typo as he left off the zero. TRN likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Alright Wiz. If you have us as a B team or something, your computer is most certainly broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The team is so bad they defy statistics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Computers don't measure heart, skill, basketball IG, determination or coaching morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 SIU over The Bills by 4(1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, Soderball said: Your computer sux bro You may be onto something. I had SIU by 4, Kenpom had 5 and Vegas had 6.5 not to mention the Weather computer had no rain for today (as I dry off). Yes, I think you are correct , computers suck. Btw, what ever you are typing on...you may want to consider getting rid of it because all computers tend to work the same way....and they are all connected and they all talk to one another. When word gets out about what you have written they won't like it and what happens next won't be pretty. Computers bad , basketball good (sometimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 Warning... Leave this post immediately if you have a weak basketball heart . The following will be ugly... Blowout definition...A lopsided score where your opponent plays great and you play terrible. Anatomy of a Blowout... Most of the my original post was about stopping Xavier Johnson...Not only did we not stop him at 15pts but he more than doubled it (31pts) . He shot 75%....FROM 3 (6-8)...75% from the arc is tough when you are by yourself in the gym practicing. But it wasn't just about X....Slash time...SIU...66/ 62/ 64...the Golden slash...Majerus use to talk about anytime a slash reached 180 (player or team) it was golden....and then there was the stinky slash...Bills... 43/22/ 58....not good. But it wasn't just about shooting...We got crushed on TOBS....We gave up 2 games worth of TOs...3 games worth of Blocks ... and 2 games worth of Steals AND in each category SIU did nearly 100% better than us....again not good. There were a few good things that happened on the Bills side but when you lose by nearly 40 to a team that just lost by nearly 30 to Ind St...the word good shouldn't come up. Every team has an off night but this was a complete break down...if only the computer could shoot the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: You may be onto something. I had SIU by 4, Kenpom had 5 and Vegas had 6.5 not to mention the Weather computer had no rain for today (as I dry off). Yes, I think you are correct , computers suck. Btw, what ever you are typing on...you may want to consider getting rid of it because all computers tend to work the same way....and they are all connected and they all talk to one another. When word gets out about what you have written they won't like it and what happens next won't be pretty. Computers bad , basketball good (sometimes) You mean Skynet might be after @Soderball? DUDE! RUN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said: You mean Skynet might be after @Soderball? DUDE! RUN!!! Oh that's good. I was worried I was going to be subjected to watching a replay of this game. SLUMedBilliken15 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Soderball said: Oh that's good. I was worried I was going to be subjected to watching a replay of this game. Even a soulless computer like Skynet wouldn’t be that cruel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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