GDT: VCU; Which animal has the most memory?

[Lando Griffin]

22 minutes ago, dlarry said:

Agree. 
Okoro may have been a difference maker in this game. 
Oh well. The loss doesn’t mean much but how they played the first half tells me they can beat them in Brooklyn.

No it doesn’t.  As long as Ford is their coach.

[wgstl]

5 minutes ago, Lando Griffin said:

No it doesn’t.  As long as Ford is their coach.

Can’t argue if okoro wins it or not. What we can argue is that ford doesn’t see what everyone else sees and makes no adjustments and loses us the game. 

[Lando Griffin]

1 minute ago, wgstl said:

Can’t argue if okoro wins it or not. What we can argue is that ford doesn’t see what everyone else sees and makes no adjustments and loses us the game. 

I think Okoro helps but Fords coaching holds them back. 

[BANGheGOTit]

41 minutes ago, ARon said:

Ford clinches yet another losing road record in conference. Impressive when you consider we started 4-1.

?  What am I missing here?  

[willie]

19 minutes ago, Box and Won said:

How did we beat Providence and Memphis? Did that actually happen?

I think we are easy to scout. Non conference teams don’t spend that much time game planning against us. VCU knew how to take Gibson out of the game and pressure the ball creating the fifty thousand turnovers. Non conference teams don’t know our weaknesses like conference teams do.  Unfortunately we have a lot of structural weaknesses. 

[wgstl]

3 minutes ago, Lando Griffin said:

I think Okoro helps but Fords coaching holds them back. 

He needs a few more years to figure this out 

[Taj79]

The expected happened.  We hit six threes the first half.  Rhoades made adjustments and we finished with seven made threes.  Forrester and Hargrove were great.  Better than great.  Pickett cannot play against athletic teams.  LHJ was decent.  Cisse can start an off season weight and practice plan.  That guy is lost.  Collins had 8 turnovers; Gibson started the second half with three straight.  How can a 6'5" guard not be able to post a 6'0' defender not even once.  I asked someone at the game about Okoro's "illness" and was told "maybe maybe not."  Hmmm.  Attitude issue?  Let me know.

For those calling for a zone, why?  It was obviosu that our defenders couldn't stop Watkins, Nunn or Kern on drives.  With the gap in the middle, VCU was marching to the rim for layups.  VCU can't really shoot threes outside of Shriver.  Two of thirteen with both makes by Shriver.  Maybe a pack zone to block the middle drives would have worked but one is not in Coach Ford's repetoire.  

Once again, I come back to the question of just what does our offense do?  Second half is purely the Yuri Collins/Curley Neal show.  Everything else becomes one-on-one basketball.  And if Perkins can't drive and Parker is glued to the bench, just who does that gig fall on?  

While I thought the refs were their usual bad selves, every time a VCU player skated, it was a foul on us.  Baldwin.  Johns.  Nunn.  Was there a single traveling call?  I doubt it.  All Kern and Watkins do is drive.  Let them shoot it.  The game was there for the taking but I don't believe Ford made any necessary adjustments.  Rhoades did.  

This team is extremely predictable and every coach in the A10 knows it.  Get us to crunch time and we will slow the game down and rely on Collins.  And it doesn't work.  This team is going nowhere fast.  

[wgstl]

Perkins and jimerson should be required to shoot 8 3s each or pulled in the final minutes 

[willie]

4 minutes ago, Taj79 said:

The expected happened.  We hit six threes the first half.  Rhoades made adjustments and we finished with seven made threes.  Forrester and Hargrove were great.  Better than great.  Pickett cannot play against athletic teams.  LHJ was decent.  Cisse can start an off season weight and practice plan.  That guy is lost.  Collins had 8 turnovers; Gibson started the second half with three straight.  How can a 6'5" guard not be able to post a 6')' defender not even once.  I asked someone at the game about Okoro's "illness" and was told "maybe maybe not."  Hmmm.  Attitude issue?  Let me know.

For those calling for a zone, why?  It was obviosu that our defenders couldn;t stop Watkins, Nunn or Kern on drives.  With the gap in the middle, VCU was marching to the rim for layups.  VCU can't really shoot threes outside of Shriver.  Two of thirteen with both makes by Shriver.  Maybe a pack zone to block the middle drives would have worked but one is not in Coach Ford's repetoire.  

Once again, I come back to the question of just what does our offense do?  Second half is purely the Yuri Collins/Curley Neal show.  Everything else becomes one-on-one basketball.  And if Perkins can't drive and Parker is glued to the bench, just who does that gig fall on?  

While I thought the refs were their usual bad selves, every time a VCU player skated, it was a foul on us.  Baldwin.  Johns.  Nunn.  Was there a single traveling call?  I doubt it.  All Kern and Watkins do is drive.  Let them shoot it.  The game was there for the taking but I don't believe Ford made any necessary adjustments.  Rhoades did.  

This team is extremely predictable and every coach in the A10 knows it.  Get us to crunch time and we will slow the game down and rely on Collins.  And it doesn't work.  This team is going nowhere fast.  

I understand your point on the zone but if you can’t guard/stop drives in the man try something else. I totally agree on our predictability. 

[wgstl]

1 minute ago, willie said:

I understand your point on the zone but if you can’t guard/stop drives in the man try something else. I totally agree on our predictability. 

I don’t fricking care about what happened defensively.  We bailed on what worked offensively 

[Lord Elrond]

5 minutes ago, wgstl said:

I don’t fricking care about what happened defensively.  We bailed on what worked offensively 

We bailed on what worked on offensive, we bailed on what worked on defense. Lots of bailing for no reason…

[wgstl]

Just now, Lord Elrond said:

We bailed on what worked on offensive, we bailed on what worked on defense. Lots of bailing for no reason…

Not fords fault 

[wgstl]

Ok I’m done  with the jabs. But isn’t it obvious enough ? 
 

 

[willie]

6 minutes ago, wgstl said:

I don’t fricking care about what happened defensively.  We bailed on what worked offensively 

The game was lost on the defensive side. Giving up the drives puts you behind. We don’t know how to play from behind leading to hero ball. 

[Lando Griffin]

11 minutes ago, willie said:

I understand your point on the zone but if you can’t guard/stop drives in the man try something else. I totally agree on our predictability. 

Zone and pack it in.  If they hit every three from then on, you shrug your shoulders and move on or go back to man.  But they went on a 7-0 run when they went to the zone and VCU couldn’t shoot.  
 

if nothing else at least keep them out of the paint where they just got crushed.  Got to mix it up, if nothing else then to throw them off.

[JettFlight5]

There would be crimes against humanity if Rick Majerus was coaching this team.

[cheeseman]

A lay up a lay up my kingdom for a lay up.  How many did we miss?  Make 50% and we win. Also our FT shooting at the end did not help either.  I missed why Francis was not there?  I do agree that Ford does not know how to make adjustments and because of that this team will never meet our expectations.  If we lose to Dayton then there is a good chance of this team not winning 20 games the seemingly number that some hang their hat on even though it has been years since that mark meant anything.  One more year is about all I can stomach of Ford unless he has an epiphany this off season.  Ford will be back next year and the grumblings will only get louder.

[JettFlight5]

3 minutes ago, cheeseman said:

A lay up a lay up my kingdom for a lay up.  How many did we miss?  Make 50% and we win. Also our FT shooting at the end did not help either.  I missed why Francis was not there?  I do agree that Ford does not know how to make adjustments and because of that this team will never meet our expectations.  If we lose to Dayton then there is a good chance of this team not winning 20 games the seemingly number that some hang their hat on even though it has been years since that mark meant anything.  One more year is about all I can stomach of Ford unless he has an epiphany this off season.  Ford will be back next year and the grumblings will only get louder.

Stu said it was an illness.

[brianstl]

Can’t wait for this to happen Friday.

 

[Slu let the dogs out?]

10 minutes ago, brianstl said:

Can’t wait for this to happen Friday.

 

That already happened at Chaifetz on the 21st of December. And the 10th of December. Also February 3rd…

[Dr. Holly Hills]

59 minutes ago, cheeseman said:

A lay up a lay up my kingdom for a lay up.  How many did we miss?  Make 50% and we win. Also our FT shooting at the end did not help either.  I missed why Francis was not there?  I do agree that Ford does not know how to make adjustments and because of that this team will never meet our expectations.  If we lose to Dayton then there is a good chance of this team not winning 20 games the seemingly number that some hang their hat on even though it has been years since that mark meant anything.  One more year is about all I can stomach of Ford unless he has an epiphany this off season.  Ford will be back next year and the grumblings will only get louder.

Apathy has set in for me.  Not only for this year, but next if ford returns.  I will go to the Dayton game and I will root for them to go on some fairytale run in the A10 tourney, but not expecting much.  

[Dr Bird]

Just curious.... was Ford on Rammer's postgame show?

 

If so, anything interesting? 

[Bay Area Billiken]

13 minutes ago, Dr Bird said:

Just curious.... was Ford on Rammer's postgame show?

 

If so, anything interesting? 

Yes, and No IMO.  

[billiken_roy]

6 hours ago, wgstl said:

Not fords fault 

if you contend it was all on the players, then why doesnt ford bench those players that were the constant problem and not doing what they were directed to du?   it is indeed on him.   if the players were defying his orders, they shouldnt be playing.  

[Bay Area Billiken]

VCU shot only 2-13, an awful 15.4% on 3’s. SLU had 20 turnovers and VCU had 14 steals. SLU was outrebounded by 1.