Littlebill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: so powell lovers, you mean to tell me, that if you were drafting for your nba team this second and both powell and obi are available and your team has an equal need for either, you would take powell? That wasn't the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazedandconfused Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Littlebill said: That wasn't the question Agreed but how is Powell more deadly than Toppin? It's not his shooting. It's not his scoring. It's not his athleticism. It's not his defense. How is he more "deadly"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Littlebill said: That wasn't the question i went back to sunday posts and i didnt see a specific question. there seems to be a discussion over who is the better player. it would seem to me the better player will be the one that comes the closest to being POY and the higher draft pick. in both cases that would be obi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: higher draft pick. in both cases that would be obi. Draft pick is irrelevant. I agree obi will win NPOY. You’ve side stepped everything we’ve gone over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: Agreed but how is Powell more deadly than Toppin? It's not his shooting. It's not his scoring. It's not his athleticism. It's not his defense. How is he more "deadly"? Tested positive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, glazedandconfused said: Agreed but how is Powell more deadly than Toppin? It's not his shooting. It's not his scoring. It's not his athleticism. It's not his defense. How is he more "deadly"? Other than a few games Daytona schedule was soft. Far less talented bigs then guards in this league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, wgstl said: Draft pick is irrelevant. I agree obi will win NPOY. You’ve side stepped everything we’ve gone over. well be specific what your question is. i sure dont see how you can pick powell over obi. and i went back to sunday and didnt see a specific question that would have me even thinking about the answer being powell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, billiken_roy said: so powell lovers, you mean to tell me, that if you were drafting for your nba team this second and both powell and obi are available and your team has an equal need for either, you would take powell? No. Obi is the far superior pro prospect. I do agree, however, that Powell had more "wow" moments against us, even though he missed a lot of shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: well be specific what your question is. i sure dont see how you can pick powell over obi. and i went back to sunday and didnt see a specific question that would have me even thinking about the answer being powell. Why do you keep mentioning Sunday? This obi/Powell talk dates back to like noon today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, wgstl said: Why do you keep mentioning Sunday? This obi/Powell talk dates back to like noon today Because i dont see the question i am supposedly sidestepping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, billiken_roy said: myles more deadly than obi? i'll have to go back and watch not anywhere close imo. obi turned into a once in a lifetime player. he is dayton's larry hughes imo. i think he is a top 5 pick. No. Larry was better as a Freshman than Obi as a JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Because i dont see the question i am supposedly sidestepping. This is like arguing with a five year old WG and I said we were more impressed with Powell than Toppin. Toppin is unquestionably a better pro prospect. These aren't mutually exclusive BilliesBy40 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Littlebill said: This is like arguing with a five year old WG and I said we were more impressed with Powell than Toppin. Toppin is unquestionably a better pro prospect. These aren't mutually exclusive I was more impressed w/ Daly than Powell, but.... slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Clock_Tower said: No. Larry was better as a Freshman than Obi as a JR. Obi a soph. Powell can create his own shot while isolated. Obi just dunks open looks/ works in an offense but he's not the same playmaker or as good off the dribble as Powell. Different players different positions but Powell has that Kemba take over switch. Shooting percentage is less cause he's taking more difficult shots. Just my opinion and I dont really think there is a right/wrong answer. I'd agree obi is a better pro prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, glazedandconfused said: Agreed but how is Powell more deadly than Toppin? It's not his shooting. It's not his scoring. It's not his athleticism. It's not his defense. How is he more "deadly"? I’m not saying I agree with the original post, but you can’t just say that Toppin is a better shooter because his % is better. That’s an unfair application of the data. If you needed a 3 to win the game, you’d much rather have Powell taking it than Toppin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 If I'm building a team or drafting for an NBA team, I'm taking Obi. His numbers are better also better. He's a better POY candidate. He's a much more difficult match up over the course of a game. If I'm down 3 with 10 seconds on the clock and I need a guy to create his own shot / hit the 3, I'm giving the ball to Powell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Right even though obi shot 8% better 3 point percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Right even though obi shot 8% better 3 point percentage. Farrrrrrrrr less attempts. I can’t compare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquinas Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Someone previously posted that they could find the Billikens vs St. Bonaventure game on Stadium. If that is still the case, can someone explain the steps to find it? Thanks. I need to watch a good Billiken game, to help me get through March Sadness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 What? Because Powell misses more and cant get to the basket like obi you want him to shoot it? If you watched obi he doesnt get his shot blocked. And when he shoots from anywhere on the floor he makes more. And clock, i never said obi was better than Larry hughes. I said he would be dayton's larry Hughes. Meaning dayton's all time most talented player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Aquinas said: Someone previously posted that they could find the Billikens vs St. Bonaventure game on Stadium. If that is still the case, can someone explain the steps to find it? Thanks. I need to watch a good Billiken game, to help me get through March Sadness. https://watchstadium.com/videos/st-bonaventure-at-saint-louis-mens-basketball-3-7-2020-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Anytime we ever disagree again we should just bless up we aren’t Dayton Billiken Rich likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, NH said: https://watchstadium.com/videos/st-bonaventure-at-saint-louis-mens-basketball-3-7-2020-2/ Thank yo thank you thank you, so enjoyable. especially JG dunk on the TJ miss. Roy, don't think he touched it with his right hand, think it was all left. mhg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Full credit to David Pavlakovich SLU_Lax likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Billikenbooster said: Thank yo thank you thank you, so enjoyable. especially JG dunk on the TJ miss. Roy, don't think he touched it with his right hand, think it was all left. mhg Tip-in, not dunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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