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Our NET ranking rose 15 spots to #60 after yesterday’s game. It pains me to think of what our numbers would be if we had held on. Oh well. On to FSU, who checks in at #33. 

I still be believe if we win that game we will be in decent shape for an at-large. 

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12 minutes ago, 2010andBeyond said:

Our NET ranking rose 15 spots to #60 after yesterday’s game. It pains me to think of what our numbers would be if we had held on. Oh well. On to FSU, who checks in at #33. 

I still be believe if we win that game we will be in decent shape for an at-large. 

it looks like we will go 2-4 with the 6 most important games of the non-conference scedule.  add in the bad loss with siu we are in trouble for an at large berth.   brooklyn will be huge

btw, that #60 leads the a-10.   not good.

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3 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

it looks like we will go 2-4 with the 6 most important games of the non-conference scedule.  add in the bad loss with siu we are in trouble for an at large berth.   brooklyn will be huge

btw, that #60 leads the a-10.   not good.

With Billiken wins over Seton Hall, Butler, and Oregon State, how do you arrive at that 2-4 figure?

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4 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said:

With Billiken wins over Seton Hall, Butler, and Oregon State, how do you arrive at that 2-4 figure?

i wasnt counting oregon state as one of the games.   

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12 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

it looks like we will go 2-4 with the 6 most important games of the non-conference scedule.  add in the bad loss with siu we are in trouble for an at large berth.   brooklyn will be huge

btw, that #60 leads the a-10.   not good.

Yep. The poor A10 this year makes this FSU game so big. After that game, We will be lucky to play 2 more Quadrant 1 games the rest of the year (at VCU, at UD if they are top 75). 

SIU not a bad loss, should be quadrant 2 at worst. The killers were the giveaways against Pitt and Houston  

 

 

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12 minutes ago, 2010andBeyond said:

Yep. The poor A10 this year makes this FSU game so big. After that game, We will be lucky to play 2 more Quadrant 1 games the rest of the year (at VCU, at UD if they are top 75). 

SIU not a bad loss, should be quadrant 2 at worst. The killers were the giveaways against Pitt and Houston  

 

 

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30; Neutral 1-50; Away 1-75
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75; Neutral 51-100; Away 76-135
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160; Neutral 101-200; Away 136-240
Quadrant 4: Home 161-plus; Neutral 201-plus; Away 241-plus.

Throwing this out there for a refresher.

Today Seton Hall is 83rd.  So that would not be a Quad 1 win, unless they move up.

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-another step to avoiding having our tourney chances being dependent on 3 days in Brooklyn is not to lay an egg against the lesser opponents we will play, the playing to our competition theory

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Updated 12/31/2018:

Notes:

No A-10 team receiving votes (kinda duh).

Florida St back in the Top 10 (9).

Houston checks in at 22.

Seton Hall getting five votes after their controversial win.  That win was great for SH, and for us; but you gotta feel bad for St Johns.  They were 12-0.

RK
TEAM
REC
PTS
TREND
 
 
1
DukeDuke(35)
11-1
1529
1
 
 
2
12-0
1472
2
 
 
3
TennesseeTennessee(12)
10-1
1471
-
 
 
4
11-0
1427
1
 
 
5
KansasKansas(4)
10-1
1386
4
 
 
6
12-0
1316
-
 
 
7
11-2
1199
1
 
 
8
10-2
1146
2
 
 
9
11-1
1061
2
 
 
10
10-1
924
3
 
 
11
10-1
845
1
 
 
12
10-2
770
5
 
 
13
11-1
737
2
 
 
14
8-3
678
5
 
 
15
10-2
673
1
 
 
16
9-2
664
3
 
 
17
9-2
626
1
 
 
18
10-2
538
2
 
 
19
11-1
518
2
 
 
20
11-1
292
6
 
 
21
11-1
279
7
 
 
22
12-0
274
1
 
 
23
11-2
247
1
 
 
24
10-2
178
1
 
 
25
11-1
163
1
 
 
 
 

Others receiving votes: Nebraska 160, Kansas State 69, St. John's 67, Villanova 44, Iowa State 11, Cincinnati 11, TCU 6, Seton Hall 5, Louisville 4, Purdue 3, Furman 2, Belmont 2, San Francisco 1, Pennsylvania 1, NJIT 1

Dropped from rankings: Furman 24, Nebraska 25

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surprisingly, slu's NET ranking has come close to top 50 which i believe, 50 is the actual at large bubble mark.  

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings 

will our atrocious conference allow that to continue to rise as needed?   we shall see.   but must say i was encouraged today to see this.   

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6 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:

surprisingly, slu's NET ranking has come close to top 50 which i believe, 50 is the actual at large bubble mark.  

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings 

will our atrocious conference allow that to continue to rise as needed?   we shall see.   but must say i was encouraged today to see this.   

That is indeed encouraging. It's a shame we only play VCU once this year at their place as we need all the opportunities for top wins as possible.

The bright side to the poor A10 is that it makes for a whole lot of winnable games. Need to go 15-3 or 16-2 but if we do that the NET will be right where it needs to be. Also need Butler and Seton Hall to do well in the Big East. The eye test will definitely require a couple big wins and those are all we've got, except for maybe the road game at VCU.

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14 minutes ago, kshoe said:

That is indeed encouraging. It's a shame we only play VCU once this year at their place as we need all the opportunities for top wins as possible.

The bright side to the poor A10 is that it makes for a whole lot of winnable games. Need to go 15-3 or 16-2 but if we do that the NET will be right where it needs to be. Also need Butler and Seton Hall to do well in the Big East. The eye test will definitely require a couple big wins and those are all we've got, except for maybe the road game at VCU.

-if we go 16-2 I will sleep soundly on March 16 and wake on St Pat's Day like a kid on Christmas in anticipation of Greg Gumbel saying something like 'the Billikens are back in the Tourney'

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51 minutes ago, Cowboy said:

-if we go 16-2 I will sleep soundly on March 16 and wake on St Pat's Day like a kid on Christmas in anticipation of Greg Gumbel saying something like 'the Billikens are back in the Tourney'

That is a big "if"

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-looking at the NCAA NET rankings I noticed a couple of things, in the top 101 teams there are 5 that have not played a road game (Duke, Tex Tech, Texas, UConn and WVA) while #24 Buffalo is 5-1

-also, from what I saw there is no number other than the ranking, so how to know the gap this ranking is saying between teams? Duke is #1 but how far behind is #2 Michigan? or #58 SLU?  as has been mentioned, NET is seems like just another way to screw the non Power Conf teams

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A-10 played 35 ish out of 135 ish games away in OOC. it is BS as is so much college sports scheduling. I'd rather have teams play only at their weight. Who cares if we kick Morehead St at home. And lose as we know ultimate embarrassment. If is was that way 20-10 would be great record it you played only half your games at home and all you played was top 50 teams.

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Just read this on the NET rankings. Not surprising at all really... 

 

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-looking at the headline and I am shocked and if you need this in blue font you need help

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Last wee it was GM. Next week it will be Davidson if they beat VCU. Let's just beat La Salle. 

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1 hour ago, Cowboy said:

-looking at the headline and I am shocked and if you need this in blue font you need help

Just like the Casablanca guy!

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29 minutes ago, NextYearBill said:

uhh Pitt is 11-4 on the year... just beat Louisville. better kenpom than us... the SIUC loss was the shite one

The Pitt loss was a killer because it was there for us to win.  It would be a pretty good win on the resume.

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50 minutes ago, brianstl said:

The Pitt loss was a killer because it was there for us to win.  It would be a pretty good win on the resume.

This. That L hurts the most. 

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The worst part about Pitt was the missed opportunity. I just hope they don't finish at the bottom of the ACC....but beating Louisville helps. 

SIUC was a disaster, but it happened. 

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