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Fall 2017 allegations against unnamed players (aka Situation 2)


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11 minutes ago, RIP HUMPS said:

I think Kwamain should talk to Goodwin if he is one of the accused. Talk to him about the impact he could make and leadership roles.

Kwamain was never suspended from attending the university entirely.  The Title IX suspension is just that.  No D1 player is going to sit around and wait to get back in.

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11 minutes ago, TRN said:

Kwamain was never suspended from attending the university entirely.  The Title IX suspension is just that.  No D1 player is going to sit around and wait to get back in.

He was. He was withdrawn from his classes and went home to Milwaukee. Came back the next semester.

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3 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said:

He was. He was withdrawn from his classes and went home to Milwaukee. Came back the next semester.

None of these guys are going to go home for 1.5 - 2 years.  They’ll be at another D1 school.

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14 minutes ago, TRN said:

None of these guys are going to go home for 1.5 - 2 years.  They’ll be at another D1 school.

They couldn’t sit out for 2 years and come back to play basketball. Their eligibility clock would be done. All of the punishments are effectively kicking them out without having the courage to just say that. 

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1 minute ago, JMM28 said:

They couldn’t sit out for 2 years and come back to play basketball. Their eligibility clock would be done. All of the punishments are effectively kicking them out without having the courage to just say that. 

Exactly.  With the one exception being the one currently playing.

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23 hours ago, BillsBeliever!!! said:

So you are saying that the boys should be suspended for having consensual sex while the two female students don't get punished

If the sex were truly consensual why has there been an investigation then?

Forgot. The players filmed the encounter and then posted it online or shared it electronically.  Really not very smart and you left that part out intentionally didn't you?

What type of punishment would you mete out to the girls. If they lied about the sex being consensual then they should receive some sort of punishment.

There is still the matter of the third girl who I assume is still saying the sex wasn't consensual.

The players failed to realize that they are held to a higher standard of conduct (as they should be) than the regular student on campus.

That could be the fault of the athletic program (if there is no program to try and help them realize this) or maybe the players just didn't care (the more likely scenario).

As I have said all along the players made the choice to have the encounter and obviously they weren't on board with all of the participants in terms of consent.

Interesting that the police investigation has not closed. That is troubling.

 

 

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Please show me the written higher code of conduct the players must follow. As usual, you drool as you type.

What you meant to write is as ambassadors for the University, the athletes are prominently public,  so their actions and public interactions should reflect the best of the University.

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18 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said:

Tilkowsky using his one post a day before 8am. It’s good to know this guy is such a loser he wakes up and thinks about us posters at billikens.com

He's one of a couple trolls who shows up on this thread and adds nothing positive to the conversation.

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I  strongly recommend you read this article by Matt Kaiser, a lawyer who has conducted Title IX investigations. It just came out today. It's premise is that colleges go to far in their definition of sexual assault and kids are being penalized severely for what's become a very gray area re: consensual sex.

The players attorneys should have this guy handle the appeal. He makes a very compelling case that guys are suffering at the hands of women who simply have regrets or buyer's remorse over their previous nights decisions.

If anyone knows how to get this to the involved attorneys, do it. Who knows it might help.  

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/1/23/16920878/aziz-ansari-affirmative-consent-college-campuses-title-ix-assault

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