The Wiz Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 No I didn't forget Rockhurst....I only do Div 1...For those that need reassurance....Bills over Rockhurst...by a bunch Coming into the the Va Tech game there is good news and bad news. The good news is we have moved up to B-. The bad news is we are playing an A Team. It is interesting to note while we moved up from C+ ....Seattle stayed at D. In other words , Seattle did what they were supposed to do. The few extra points we beat them by were insignificant. Then why did we move up? Both teams were unknowns. But we were the bigger unknown...therefore the bigger surprise. Our win was more meaningful. Unfortunately , this will not help us much in the upcoming game. VT is good....They should be Dancin' in March. So what should we do?....First, let's look at the stats for the Bills .................Off..................Def PPG..........D-...................A+ FG%..........D-...................B+ 3p%..........D-....................B- FT%..........C Reb...........B.....................A Tip o' the cap to the following top 100 players..stats /g......Goodwin....17th in steals....92nd Reb....Hines 58th in 3PtM...Bess 79th in MPG So if you haven't noticed , we are a defensive team. Yes, it is a small sample size but falls in line with preseason practices. Now let's take a look at VT.... ...............Off.......................Def PPG........A+.......................D- FG%.........A+......................C+ 3pt%.........B+.....................D FT%...........C- Reb...........A.........................B+ So this is a team that really doesn't care about defense. We will blow you away with our offense. Of the players who have taken shots this season , VT has 2 guys that are shooting 42%.....Everyone else is shooting above 50%. Their star is guard Nickeli Alexander Walker... 3 names...This is 1 player though he plays like 3. Shooting 63% overall and 50% from the arc followed closely behind by Blackshear their other guard with a 76 FG%. They are averaging 26 and 22 pts respectively. Oh yeah,, Blackshear is also averaging over 10 rpg. Bottom line....Off meets Def ......VT is not use to seeing a team that plays a slower defensive game....We should be able to knock their offensive numbers down....Plus they will let us shoot....The question is... can we shoot? If we play like we have been , it will be a VT blowout...far exceeding 12pts. However, if we can start hitting some buckets...including finishing and making the easy ones ...we have a chance. Coming into this game we will have played a Div 2 , an NAIA, and a D rated team. We will need to step it up quite a bit and bring our A game to play an A team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 It isn't that Va Tech doesn't really care about defense. They aren't good, but besides opponents 3 pt % they aren't playing awful defense, so far, either. Their points against looks bloated because the number of possessions in their games is 7th in the country so far. The pace they play at is what scares me most about this game. The Hookies have nine guys that average 14 or more minutes. Unless we get two guys back, we are looking at a limited roster for us again. If we can't really slow down the pace that the Hookies want to play at, we may be completely gassed in the second half. We need to stop them from hitting the offensive glass. We held Seattle to two offensive boards. We need to keep that same intensity against the Hookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, brianstl said: It isn't that Va Tech doesn't really care about defense. They aren't good, but besides opponents 3 pt % they aren't playing awful defense, so far, either. Their points against looks bloated because the number of possessions in their games is 7th in the country so far. The pace they play at is what scares me most about this game. The Hookies have nine guys that average 14 or more minutes. Unless we get two guys back, we are looking at a limited roster for us again. If we can't really slow down the pace that the Hookies want to play at, we may be completely gassed in the second half. We need to stop them from hitting the offensive glass. We held Seattle to two offensive boards. We need to keep that same intensity against the Hookies. This. They play fast and go deep. They have 9 guys in the rotation; we have 8 scholarship players available. Even if we hang for a while, I would expect them to pull away in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 It would be nice to have a couple of more bodies out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Yes it would but it looks like they will be absent. We will have to do with the 8 we have, hope Hines has a very good night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I would be fibbing if I said I wasn't worried about this game, but I still am super excited about it as well. While I think VaTech is a stout matchup, I don't see them dropping 100 on the Bills like they did to Detroit and the Citadel. I hope the Bills get hot as a squad and stay in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, prebilliken said: I would be fibbing if I said I wasn't worried about this game, but I still am super excited about it as well. While I think VaTech is a stout matchup, I don't see them dropping 100 on the Bills like they did to Detroit and the Citadel. I hope the Bills get hot as a squad and stay in this one. Goodwin could go off for 40 if they don't want to play d.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Goodwin could go off for 40 if they don't want to play d.... Not based on the Seattle game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Can't put much stock in VT's stats, or the SLU's stats, after a couple of games against very poor competition. That said, you cannot play an ACC team, even one projected to finish middle of the ACC, with a short bench. Without Bishop and Henriquez the Bills lose by closer to 20 than 10. VT starts 4 guards and a forward so missing Bishop likely will be a killer. We better hope Hines, Goodwin and Roby have great games handling and shooting the ball. And Lord help SLU if they get in foul trouble. But it would be a great game to win ...... will be watching and hope to be surprised with a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 By what I saw in the Seattle game, SLU is much better this year than I have ever seen them to be in terms of physical contact, rebounds, and steals. If VT is really a more or less pure offensive team with little defense capacity we may do very well against them. It all depends, I would think, more on our big bodies that do not score much French, Foreman, and Anthony to get them blocked physically, Goodwin to confuse the hell out of them, and Bess + Johnson (if their defense does not block him) to be able to score. It will be interesting to say the least, unfortunately I will not be watching it as we have a prior commitment for that night. I really do not think VT will steam roll over us, that said I do not know who will win this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 25 minutes ago, Old guy said: By what I saw in the Seattle game, SLU is much better this year than I have ever seen them to be in terms of physical contact, rebounds, and steals. If VT is really a more or less pure offensive team with little defense capacity we may do very well against them. It all depends, I would think, more on our big bodies that do not score much French, Foreman, and Anthony to get them blocked physically, Goodwin to confuse the hell out of them, and Bess + Johnson (if their defense does not block him) to be able to score. It will be interesting to say the least, unfortunately I will not be watching it as we have a prior commitment for that night. I really do not think VT will steam roll over us, that said I do not know who will win this game. ESPN 2 game ...... DVR it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Very disappointed that it appears likely we are heading into this game short-handed. When the schedule came out was really looking forward to the possibility of a key quality early season win. Seems like a long shot now. Our best chance seems to be to ugly it up without getting into foul trouble. A tough task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Ace what do you mean by ugly it up? I think the physicality of this team is something to be cherished and enjoyed, I love the thought of being called thugs by our opponents. Basketball does not have to be refined with measured steps like a production of Swan Lake by the Kirov Ballet. Hell if we get close and physical and win that way, much the better. I would rather be the "thug squad" than the "lovable losers." We can win this game, whether or not it looks pretty, if we are ready to fight for this win, short-handed squad or not. In my experience watching the Bills we have never been in a position that allowed us to play a physical game and assume the role of thugs. I hope this is the year we do it, pretty or not. 1 hour ago, WVBilliken said: ESPN 2 game ...... DVR it. Thank you WVBilliken I will have to learn how to set the box to record but it can be done, appreciate the tip. I will really enjoy it, particularly if we win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 was just looking at some of the experts picks for the game tomorrow and most are favoring us at least in the money line one has us losing 69-66 another picked us for +2.5 billikens they believe that our defense will be able slow them down quite a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, BillIkenFan_Dan said: was just looking at some of the experts picks for the game tomorrow and most are favoring us at least in the money line one has us losing 69-66 another picked us for +2.5 billikens they believe that our defense will be able slow them down quite a bit Per CBS sports app, we're +13.5. I'd take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 48 minutes ago, billikens747 said: Per CBS sports app, we're +13.5. I'd take that. I think the line seems to sum up the general consensus on the game from Bills fans: VT can get buckets, they haven't played anyone, we will be physical, they will likely pull away towards the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Nothing to lose, everything to gain. I just want to be entertained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 VT by 21 tomorrow night. We stay relatively close until about 8-10 min left and then our lack of bench catches up to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I think everything clicks and we pull off a close win. VT hasn’t been in a close game yet. We will slow it down and the slow pace will get to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I see VT -14 at pinnacle. This feels like 2013 when I was absolutely certain Louisville would not beat the bills by 13. On a related note, does anyone think Ford will make our short handed team run suicides today? #jimcrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Let's put it this way, all the doom and gloom about our short handed team will make it a lot sweeter if we win against VT. drkelsey55 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Old guy said: Let's put it this way, all the doom and gloom about our short handed team will make it a lot sweeter if we win against VT. or even a competitive/close game, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yes, I'm repeating myself from another thread, but Ford has stated he likes to have an 8 man rotation, with all 8 getting heavy minutes. He has eight, so let's coach them up Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamarete Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 he might have 8, but that doesn't mean he has the right 8 for his rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Yes, I'm repeating myself from another thread, but Ford has stated he likes to have an 8 man rotation, with all 8 getting heavy minutes. He has eight, so let's coach them up Coach. ehhh, doesnt really work that way. When he cuts a rotation down to a certain number, it has to do with those exact players and what they bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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