Zink Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Sign a JC point guard wtih our final scholarship or an immediately eligible player. Offer a 2015-2016 scholarship to Berry and preferred walk-on for 2014-2015. Recruiting then done for next year.Out of curiosity, what makes you think PG is our primary need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Out of curiosity, what makes you think PG is our primary need? He has no clue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Get him. Can't have too many bigs and he's a local kid. Plus transfers are working out well in CoMo, it's the new thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Really don't think he's better get than what we got Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I'd take him in a heart beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have only seen Berry play a few times. I always thought he looked soft. I cannot see him banging with A10 bigs. Any opinion on this observation by those who have seen Berry play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If he had the ability why would Butler say Bye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Cusumano tweeted something about Berry transferring because Butler wanted to use him as a center, which is not his natural position. Based on what we already have at the 4 with Tanner/Reggie, would he even get much playing time if he came here? Not to mention, Welmer has already pretty much committed to us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Are we (SLU) trying to win? RM ... or are we trying to be nice guys? Brad... If we want to win, then we should push our own dead wood out the door (Grandy Glaze) and open up another scholarship. Thereafter, we cut the weakest of next year's bigs and not be worried about class sizes and position balance. Let's stop taking other program's cast offs and let them start taking our cast offs. Now, if a certain diamond in the rough falls at our feet, then take him. Otherwise, we passed on Nolan Berry/he wasn't interested in us a year ago. Since then, his 1.9 points for a losing program are just not attractive. Also, being the grandson of Easy Ed does not help us win games or keep our NCAA Tourney streak alive. Since he is another local transfer, let Frank Haith take him!! Maybe a package deal with the Energizer Bunny!! In the meantime, let's sign a few guys who can actually shoot it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Cusumano tweeted something about Berry transferring because Butler wanted to use him as a center, which is not his natural position. Based on what we already have at the 4 with Tanner/Reggie, would he even get much playing time if he came here? Not to mention, Welmer has already pretty much committed to us... Agreed, I would like to hear whether SLU is even interested in Berry, at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 A 17 year old kid was trying to make the best college decision he kid and a bunch of adults on a message board choose to hold a grudge against him because of it. Always baffles me. + 10000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 We speak out of both sides our mouth sometimes. We were pretty much all po'd when he chose the Dogs over us. And now because he did it we're so good we can turn down a top100 recruit w/ ties to SLU? C'mon, man, gimme a break, bring him home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Are we (SLU) trying to win? RM ... or are we trying to be nice guys? Brad... If we want to win, then we should push our own dead wood out the door (Grandy Glaze) and open up another scholarship. Thereafter, we cut the weakest of next year's bigs and not be worried about class sizes and position balance. Let's stop taking other program's cast offs and let them start taking our cast offs. Now, if a certain diamond in the rough falls at our feet, then take him. Otherwise, we passed on Nolan Berry/he wasn't interested in us a year ago. Since then, his 1.9 points for a losing program are just not attractive. Also, being the grandson of Easy Ed does not help us win games or keep our NCAA Tourney streak alive. Since he is another local transfer, let Frank Haith take him!! Maybe a package deal with the Energizer Bunny!! In the meantime, let's sign a few guys who can actually shoot it!! While I want to win, casting off a senior to be is just not right under virtually any circumstances. Grandy has played very hard and is a good student athlete. Now, if you go to a player at the end of his freshman even sophomore season and tell him, "Look, after a year or two of observation, the staff has determined that you are not capable of playing at the level necessary and we are going to help you find another team", then I am okay. Remember, Grandy even started a few games this year. I think he can contribute meaningfully next year, especially with the energy and passion he brings to the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 A 17 year old kid was trying to make the best college decision he kid and a bunch of adults on a message board choose to hold a grudge against him because of it. Always baffles me. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 While I want to win, casting off a senior to be is just not right under virtually any circumstances. Grandy has played very hard and is a good student athlete. Now, if you go to a player at the end of his freshman even sophomore season and tell him, "Look, after a year or two of observation, the staff has determined that you are not capable of playing at the level necessary and we are going to help you find another team", then I am okay. Remember, Grandy even started a few games this year. I think he can contribute meaningfully next year, especially with the energy and passion he brings to the floor. Agreed. Any talk of cutting a senior to be is very poor taste. I'd think the coaching staff would only want berry if they aren't sold on either Reggie or Tanner (I highly doubt it) or on whelmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 A lot can happen in a year at prep school for Welmer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Agreed. Any talk of cutting a senior to be is very poor taste. I'd think the coaching staff would only want berry if they aren't sold on either Reggie or Tanner (I highly doubt it) or on whelmer. Remember the heat SLU got for Jared Drew (who had other issues)? Cut a senior, and it will be a million times worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Jared Who? I am more worried about a current freshman leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If we sign Berry and Welmer, two forards, for 2015 we definitely could use another guard this year. Out of curiosity, what makes you think PG is our primary need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If we sign Berry and Welmer, two forards, for 2015 we definitely could use another guard this year.If we sign Berry though, then we don't have any other scholarships left...Also, we signed two PGs in this class already (Reynolds and Bartley) and Roby, who projects to be more of a wing, played some point in high school! I think between them and McBroom we are pretty set at the PG spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I think we need to worry less about positional balance and focus more on getting top talent. We didn't lose to Louisville because we had too many or not enough of any one position. We lost because they were more talented offensively than we were. If a kid is a character fit and will upgrade our talent level, then I would take him for sure, regardless of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doowop Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Did Butler have so many good 4 & 5s that he couldn't get any PT? Or was he just not as good as advertised?Not as good as advertised. SLU does not need him now. We have players comparable to him. SLU needs a big, strong, banger who is a strong rebounder. With the transfers available now and probably later (like the one from West Virginia) SLU would be better off to wait and see who may be interested in coming here, imo. He had a chance to come here and he passed on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doowop Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I think we need to worry less about positional balance and focus more on getting top talent. We didn't lose to Louisville because we had too many or not enough of any one position. We lost because they were more talented offensively than we were. If a kid is a character fit and will upgrade our talent level, then I would take him for sure, regardless of position.Would Berry really upgrade our talent level? Did we lose in the tournament because we lacked a player of his talent? Some of these local players leave St. Louis because they believe they are better than they are and SLU is not good enough for them. Berry still may not want to come here but if he does, I hope the coaching staff passes on him. Better transfers than Berry will be available, and already are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doowop Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Jared Who? I am more worried about a current freshman leaving. Which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Tanner ain't leaving, Crawford ain't leaving, agbeko ain't leaving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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