slufan13 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, brianstl said: Just let the fact that Travis Ford is now averaging over $3 million per season set in and then try to tell me why Chris May is still employed. Chris May is paid to be the adult in the room for SLU when it comes to the basketball coach's contract. He is supposed to protect the program and the school from emotional boosters that think they have to way overpay because a coach's agent has convinced them that DePaul was on the verge of hiring their coach. May has seemed to have an emotional attachment to Travis since day 1. I think it's pretty telling how quiet he's been this season. Bizziken and brianstl like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: May has seemed to have an emotional attachment to Travis since day 1. I think it's pretty telling how quiet he's been this season. distancing himself. Its coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Leave it to SLU to invent a new way to F themselves. Can’t fault Ford and his agent on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, wgstl said: distancing himself. Its coming. I assume its a self preservation move by May. Chris May should be fired before Ford. TheA_Bomb, thelaundry, Slu let the dogs out? and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, JMM28 said: I assume its a self preservation move by May. Chris May should be fired before Ford. I don't care the order. As long as both are gone before March 18th thelaundry and JMM28 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, wgstl said: I don't care the order. As long as both are gone before March 18th Depending on the level of coach, AD hire before coach might be better. If you're going after an in-demand mid/low major head coach, they'll want to be hired by the guy they're working for. Rick Majerus didn't give a damn because he was running his own show anyways. Not sure there is a self assured guy like that out there this time. brianstl, thelaundry and Slu let the dogs out? like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, JMM28 said: Depending on the level of coach, AD hire before coach might be better. If you're going after an in-demand mid/low major head coach, they'll want to be hired by the guy they're working for. Rick Majerus didn't give a damn because he was running his own show anyways. Not sure there is a self assured guy like that out there this time. Im sure there is an actual order that would make more sense. But I'll settle for any option that involves both. JMM28 likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The next 4 seasons should be fun with Ford on the bench as a lame duck until 2028. We can field an all walk on squad on our way to D2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, TheOne said: Pestello should be in front of the firing squad too. Putting the university on the hook for a buyout that massive is negligence. An auto-renewing contract in a sport that has an average coach lifespan of 5 years is negligence. There was no one on earth hiring Travis Ford for more than 1.5 a year. May/Pestello/BOT negotiated against themselves with this. A 8 figure buyout is...criminal. For reference sake, if Michigan State fires Tom Izzo, they owe him $7,000,000. Tony Bennett at UVA would get $12,000,000. Bizziken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 This is also why you fire midseason. Wait too long and uncomfortable details start coming out that make everyone look bad. TheA_Bomb likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, billikenfan05 said: The people in these back room meetings have 100% considered the dark arts of avoiding the buyout right? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/pac12/2023/05/30/nick-rolovich-washington-state-firing-lawsuit-mostly-dismissed/70271526007/ It's been done before and upheld in court. Here's the play: After investigation it is revealed that Coach Ford did violate SLU's Covid protocols when he hosted a off campus party with employees and students. For his failure to comply with University protocols, which he agreed to in writing, he is terminated with cause immediately. Director May is also terminated with cause for failure to enforce the University protocols and loss of institutional control in the Athletic Department. The University is committed to public health and equal application of rules for all students, faculty and employees.* *SLU Public Affairs feel free to cut and paste the above in your press release Slu let the dogs out? likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Depending on the level of coach, AD hire before coach might be better. If you're going after an in-demand mid/low major head coach, they'll want to be hired by the guy they're working for. Rick Majerus didn't give a damn because he was running his own show anyways. Not sure there is a self assured guy like that out there this time. The buyout amount may require this anyway, but if you get rid of May first, which may be the best option, you probably have to keep Ford for an extra year. It might take a few months to hire a new AD, which means that a current staff member will be the interim AD. You absolutely don’t want an interim AD negotiating a new basketball coach’s contract, especially an interim from SLU’s athletic department staff. Then the new AD can hire their own coach in a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeSmetBilliken Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 When is the fun part supposed to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, billiken_roy said: im just guessing but i would guess it was a 5 year deal that each year had a year added. and with last year being the first year that we all speculate he was notified he wasnt getting the auto renewal that left 4 years. we get past this season and within the time restaints we give him notice no renewal again, next year he has 3 years remaining, etc. Not auto-renew but fixed term and a long one with buyout, unless picked up by another school then SLU pays the diff. AnkielBreakers, slufan13, Bizziken and 1 other like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, TheOne said: Not auto-renew but fixed term and a long one with buyout, unless picked up by another school then SLU pays the diff. More or less than 5 years left after this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2024 at 7:16 AM, slufan13 said: Fire him today. "Hire" a guy like Ahearn or Tatum or Mack who is currently not a college coach. Let them tamper with recruits/transfers. Get a leg up on everyone. Or hire Schuertz or Porter. Either way there is no reason to wait. If it's really about the student athlete, don't waste the last 6 weeks of the season when you know the current guy can't win. Take Tatum off the list. It wasn't going to be him as the head coach anyway, but he is staying in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Who is D-Bill in that X post? Mentions a Sports Radio Show and offer of $7ml severance. That's something we haven't heard before. Anyone else hear that radio show? Is it reliable info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Elrond Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, TheA_Bomb said: Who is D-Bill in that X post? Mentions a Sports Radio Show and offer of $7ml severance. That's something we haven't heard before. Anyone else hear that radio show? Is it reliable info? That’s my question, what show and is there a way to replay it on the internet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, TheOne said: Not auto-renew but fixed term and a long one with buyout, unless picked up by another school then SLU pays the diff. So when somebody came on here in 2019 and said Ford got a 10 year extension, were they full of it or was that actually legit? TheOne likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The SLU Admin should be looking into any and all avenues moving forward. Buyouts are negotiated down all the time. There is no reason to overpay with the annual rollover. Most sane universities have a lump sum buyout that lowers with each year. The President and AD both should be shown the door for financial stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, Lord Elrond said: That’s my question, what show and is there a way to replay it on the internet? Here you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laker119 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Here you go I know that’s Jim Hayes at first, but who’s the second guy who actually has this inside scoop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmdragons Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, laker119 said: I know that’s Jim Hayes at first, but who’s the second guy who actually has this inside scoop? Nate Lucas, a wannabe Clay Travis. He used to host a midday show on 590 with Rammer. Not sure if that’s still a thing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, slufan13 said: Here you go Come back to him now at 5 million he may be more open to it given his terrible year. He would have been better off to have taken it then and move on to something else either this year or next. Now he is damaged goods. dlarry likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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