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OT: MLS Announcement Tuesday: GOOOOOOL for STL.

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1 hour ago, DeSmetBilliken said:

I’m assuming you mean that a promoted team has never won the EPL in their first year after promotion? Because I think Leicester City won in their 2nd year, 3rd at most, after promotion. If you’re saying no team that ever had to get promoted to reach the EPL in the Premier League era has won a title, I’d cite Leicester City, and I think Manchester City was relegated and regained promotion at least once in the PL era.

I agree though that while it’s an interesting aspect of European leagues, relegation is a very questionable concept in MLS.

No, I stand corrected on Leicester City. The source I found must have published that statement before their surprise championship a few years back, which most consider the most unlikely regular season championship in the history of major sports. 

I think Promotion/Relegation is fine and interesting in the many leagues where it exists today, but I still don't understand how it solves any competitive problems in the US. On his podcast this week, Alexi Lalas was pointing out that with the championship streaks by Bayern, Juventus, and PSG (together with the duopoly in La Liga), the so-called top leagues are actually the lease competitive pro leagues in the world at the top. So what would you rather have? Real competition at the top or battles for relegation at the bottom?

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2 minutes ago, davidnark said:

No, I stand corrected on Leicester City. The source I found must have published that statement before their surprise championship a few years back, which most consider the most unlikely regular season championship in the history of major sports. 

I think Promotion/Relegation is fine and interesting in the many leagues where it exists today, but I still don't understand how it solves any competitive problems in the US. On his podcast this week, Alexi Lalas was pointing out that with the championship streaks by Bayern, Juventus, and PSG (together with the duopoly in La Liga), the so-called top leagues are actually the lease competitive pro leagues in the world at the top. So what would you rather have? Real competition at the top or battles for relegation at the bottom?

I agree with what you’re saying, but I think relegation would eliminate a lot of the intentional tanking that goes on in a lot of American professional sports. Like the Marlins holding a fire sale just after winning a World Series, twice. With relegation, if they did that, they’d be dropped down a level. I’m not saying it could or would work logistically or financially over here, but I do like the idea of having extra motivation to not finish dead last. And it also gives fans of not-so-good teams a reason to pay attention throughout the entire season, instead if just turning it off as soon as the team becomes irrelevant.

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44 minutes ago, davidnark said:

No, I stand corrected on Leicester City. The source I found must have published that statement before their surprise championship a few years back, which most consider the most unlikely regular season championship in the history of major sports. 

I think Promotion/Relegation is fine and interesting in the many leagues where it exists today, but I still don't understand how it solves any competitive problems in the US. On his podcast this week, Alexi Lalas was pointing out that with the championship streaks by Bayern, Juventus, and PSG (together with the duopoly in La Liga), the so-called top leagues are actually the lease competitive pro leagues in the world at the top. So what would you rather have? Real competition at the top or battles for relegation at the bottom?

I don't think it has to be either or. Relegation + real financial fair play rules would be the ideal combination. In the NFL, for example, the salary cap ensures parity; however, there is no mechanism to keep teams from tanking.

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St. Louis will now have a top division US soccer team playing in a brand new stadium. Why would any fan ever want to risk having our team relegated because they have a bad season? I used to follow Bolton when Stu Holden was there; it is now an irrelevant club. Plus, in US soccer you would never tank to improve your draft position because player pool comes from the development academies and the global market with hardly any meaningful players coming out of the draft system. 

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8 hours ago, Littlebill said:

They'll be better next year. Arteta's masterclass against City showed me he's the real deal. They need to spend to shore up the defense, and could also use some help in midfield, but they'll be better next season and should challenge for top 4. The 2-8 places will be getting a lot better before next season. Chelsea and City have already spent to plug up their holes and I expect United to do the same.

 

8 hours ago, Littlebill said:

They'll be better next year. Arteta's masterclass against City showed me he's the real deal. They need to spend to shore up the defense, and could also use some help in midfield, but they'll be better next season and should challenge for top 4. The 2-8 places will be getting a lot better before next season. Chelsea and City have already spent to plug up their holes and I expect United to do the same.

Thanks so much.

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On 7/30/2020 at 9:25 AM, Littlebill said:

They'll be better next year. Arteta's masterclass against City showed me he's the real deal. They need to spend to shore up the defense, and could also use some help in midfield, but they'll be better next season and should challenge for top 4. The 2-8 places will be getting a lot better before next season. Chelsea and City have already spent to plug up their holes and I expect United to do the same.

Agreed.  Arteta clearly showed he is building on the youth with him using Nketiah and Saka, for instance.  Those that don't adapt to his style will be shown the door.  Love to see Smith-Rowe come back from loan and take up the attacking mid responsibility from Ozil.  The back line is abysmal and embarrassment to any Arsenal fan.  Bellerin and Tierney are keepers but, Luiz, Mustafi, and Kolasnic (sp) need to be shown the door.  Love to get Holding back to 100% and get that one Greek centerback kid we signed playing.  Hell wasn't there a veteran La Liga centerback we signed to help shore things up?  I think injuries were a major impact on our goals-against this year.

Heading into Sat, yea, Chelsea certainly has the edge  right now.  But I hope we can grab another FA trophy just to save face from failing to qualify for Champions league and Europa.

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