kshoe Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I wasn't old enough to drive at the time, but does anybody else remember Grawer's final home game? I seem to recall that when the team was announced and when Grawer was announced the crowd gave him a standing ovation. I think it was more of a show of support for him given all the defections than an acknowledgement that everyone knew he was gone after the season. I expect nothing but crickets when Crews is announced on Saturday. On a related note, any idea if Ash's ceremony will be pre-game or post-game. Post game is great when you win the game and have had a great season. It sucks when you've had the kind of season we've had this year. Hopefully it's pre-game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I wasn't old enough to drive at the time, but does anybody else remember Grawer's final home game? I seem to recall that when the team was announced and when Grawer was announced the crowd gave him a standing ovation. I think it was more of a show of support for him given all the defections than an acknowledgement that everyone knew he was gone after the season. I expect nothing but crickets when Crews is announced on Saturday. On a related note, any idea if Ash's ceremony will be pre-game or post-game. Post game is great when you win the game and have had a great season. It sucks when you've had the kind of season we've had this year. Hopefully it's pre-game. It's postgame according to SLU's website http://www.slubillikens.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&ATCLID=210762494 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 It's postgame according to SLU's website http://www.slubillikens.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&ATCLID=210762494 It should never be postgame at a slu game we could be about to go into overtime against the golden state warriors and 1/3 of the crowd would leave at the last time out to "beat the traffic". For a last game of the season and likely loss to st bonnie and no David burns or Anthony bonner like senior there will be less than 500 people left to watch. That's just wrong and disrespectful but reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Since opening Chaifetz in 2008, we are 2-5 on Senior Days/Nights, with losses over LaSalle (09), Temple (10), Xavier (11), Dayton (14) and Bonnie (15). Only wins were in 2012 (Xavier) and 2013 (LaSalle) BTW: before the Duquense loss at home in 2014, we were 87-18 at Chaifetz - a 82.9% winning percentage overall and 36-10 (78.3%) in conference. Since that loss we are 16-21 (43.2%) and 6-13 (31.6%) in the A-10. Hopefully, Saturday will be the Senior Day for Crews/Platt. #FireJimCrews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Got to feel a little remorseful for Ash ..... a four-star high school recruit, goes to Villanova where it all goes south enough to transfer, picks a team/coach in Saint Louis he likes but is really not the team he saw by the time he gets there, surrounding talent weak, coaching staff questionable, game not consistent, an empty house come senior day. Not everything comes up roses when moving to the next level, unfortunately. I wish him well. He's always a Billiken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 By the time Grawer left, I was living in Washington, DC and unable to attend. Grawer's final season bookended identical 5 and 23 seasons from his first year and his last. His final home game was an 88 to 71 loss to DePaul on February 29, 1992. Have no clue what total attendance was at the Checkerdome/Arena that night. That was loss #23; that team then went to Birmingham and got shellacked 104 to 76 before closing in Chicago at the Great Midwest Tournament in a 74 to 63 verdict to Marquette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 We need to passive aggressively assume Crews is gone. If you see Chris May or anyone in the AD, ask them if we'll be doing anything special next month for Crews retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 By the time Grawer left, I was living in Washington, DC and unable to attend. Grawer's final season bookended identical 5 and 23 seasons from his first year and his last. His final home game was an 88 to 71 loss to DePaul on February 29, 1992. Have no clue what total attendance was at the Checkerdome/Arena that night. That was loss #23; that team then went to Birmingham and got shellacked 104 to 76 before closing in Chicago at the Great Midwest Tournament in a 74 to 63 verdict to Marquette. By that time I was entering my 7th year in the Golden State. But I do remember listening to that game, and Rich Grawer did receive a lengthy and loud standing ovation from the SLU fans, and deservedly so. Although things unraveled that last year, SLU was 19-14 the year before and played but lost the MCC Tournament Championship Game that previous year and was the NIT Runner-Up each of the 2 years before that. As an Ekker Era Survivor, it says here without any reservation that Rich Grawer is the Savior of Billiken Basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Got to feel a little remorseful for Ash ..... a four-star high school recruit, goes to Villanova where it all goes south enough to transfer, picks a team/coach in Saint Louis he likes but is really not the team he saw by the time he gets there, surrounding talent weak, coaching staff questionable, game not consistent, an empty house come senior day. Not everything comes up roses when moving to the next level, unfortunately. I wish him well. He's always a Billiken. Not only that, but he sees ghosts as the ghost of majerus recruited him to slu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 -I expect like the last few games I will just be sitting there on Saturday with no emotion -I will have a few beers before the game to get me through it -the dumpster fire of this season and last have taken their toll on me -I look forward to the announcement of the new coach and hope it will rejuvenate me as this is not fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromDaEastSide Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 His final home game was an 88 to 71 loss to DePaul on February 29, 1992. Have no clue what total attendance was at the Checkerdome/Arena that night. 11,027 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Props to anyone who still cares. You're a better fan than me. Wake me up when we get a new coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Where is the like button on this message board? Oh well, +1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 That's good news. I've never liked it after the game. About the only thing Majerus-related that I didn't care for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Where is the like button on this message board? Oh well, +1. FWIW, +2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 https://twitter.com/SaintLouisMBB/status/705446432350687232Smart.Maybe this smart decision is an indicator of more smart decisions.. Like firing Jim Crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 By that time I was entering my 7th year in the Golden State. But I do remember listening to that game, and Rich Grawer did receive a lengthy and loud standing ovation from the SLU fans, and very deservedly so. Although things unraveled that last year, SLU was 19-14 the year before and played but lost the MCC Tournament Championship Game the previous year and was the NIT Runner-Up each of the 2 years before that. As an Ekker Era Survivor, it says here without any reservation that Rich Grawer is the Savior of Billiken Basketball. Rich Grawer is the reason I love Billiken basketball. My first game was sitting on the floor at Kiel with a season ticket holder playing Loyola. I remember Jim Roder, Ted Mimlitz, Rheditt Hudson and Pee Wee Lenard playing in that game. I have been a Billiken fan ever since and have always appreciated what coach Grawer did for the program. Coach Grawer was so close to the big dance it is a shame he did not get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Rich Grawer is the reason I love Billiken basketball. My first game was sitting on the floor at Kiel with a season ticket holder playing Loyola. I remember Jim Roder, Ted Mimlitz, Rheditt Hudson and Pee Wee Lenard playing in that game. I have been a Billiken fan ever since and have always appreciated what coach Grawer did for the program. Coach Grawer was so close to the big dance it is a shame he did not get there. If not for the Upchurch fiasco, what could have been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 FWIW, +2. +3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Rich Grawer is the reason I love Billiken basketball. My first game was sitting on the floor at Kiel with a season ticket holder playing Loyola. I remember Jim Roder, Ted Mimlitz, Rheditt Hudson and Pee Wee Lenard playing in that game. I have been a Billiken fan ever since and have always appreciated what coach Grawer did for the program. Coach Grawer was so close to the big dance it is a shame he did not get there. I've said this before- in Biblical terms, Rich Grawer was SLU's Moses, he led us to the Promised Land but was not allowed to enter it himself (the NCAA Tournament). Charlie Spoonhour was SLU's Joshua, who actually led us into the Promised Land of the NCAA Tournament, with 2 of Rich Grawer's best recruits, Erwin Claggett and Scott Highmark, who were young Freshmen on Coach Grawer's last SLU team, but Juniors on Spoon's first NCAA team. Spoon added very good pieces in Donnie Dobbs and H Waldman. And I agree, if not for the Craig Upchurch fiasco (but after all, this is SLU, where this stuff happens), Grawer without any doubt would have had an NCAA Tournament team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Rich Grawer is the reason I love Billiken basketball. My first game was sitting on the floor at Kiel with a season ticket holder playing Loyola. I remember Jim Roder, Ted Mimlitz, Rheditt Hudson and Pee Wee Lenard playing in that game. I have been a Billiken fan ever since and have always appreciated what coach Grawer did for the program. Coach Grawer was so close to the big dance it is a shame he did not get there. If not for the Upchurch fiasco, what could have been? Agree. And imagine if Rich had a Chaifetz Arena in his recruiting arsenal. I always felt he went to war with 1 arm behind his back. Maybe an arm and a half. Most of Charlie's team was recruited by Rich. We owe him a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I've said this before- in Biblical terms, Rich Grawer was SLU's Moses, he led us to the Promised Land but was not allowed to enter it himself (the NCAA Tournament). Charlie Spoonhour was SLU's Joshua, who actually led us into the Promised Land of the NCAA Tournament, with 2 of Rich Grawer's best recruits, Erwin Claggett and Scott Highmark, who were young Freshmen on Coach Grawer's last SLU team, but Juniors on Spoon's first NCAA team. Spoon added very good pieces in Donnie Dobbs and H Waldman. If so, then it would seem that — and I really hate to say this — Jim Crews is King Solomon, who, after starting off well based on what King David (Coach Majerus) established, went south and caused the disruption of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Ghosts are in the past and the past is 20/20. Ash noticed and eventually picked SLU after watching Majerus' team destroy his Nova outfit in Anaheim. The ghost that confirmed this was Ash's brother. What kshoe gems are out there? How about what, 18 wins this year? Maybe the fact guys get better just by being older? Why don't you bring up the fact I saw Jett transferring after his sophomore year. Never mind --- did that for you. You can argue against all my projections, that is what they are there for, to stir debate. Ash's reason for being here is reality. No amount of blather will change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Taj, we've been over this. Your timeline makes no sense. At all. Unless there is truly a belief in ghosts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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