ACE Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Great News! ! ! I've heard some very encouraging things about young Mr. Yarborough. I can't wait to see this kid as an upperclassman, once he figures out how to defend better; but I think he'll compete for minutes right away and figure out ways to chip in points. I also think those gossippy accusations about his "character" should be ignored, from what I gather. Not sure if folks saw these quotes: they highlight the star power of our beloved Hoosier scoring machine: "After talking with an assistant coach who is the all-time leading scorer in Big Ten history, I was excited," Yarbrough said of Cheaney. "He told and showed how he will work with me, how he did it and how we will work together. Coming from him, that means a lot." The 6-6 wing has always had a penchant for scoring the basketball. Whether it was shooting from the perimeter or using his big body and strength in finishing around the basket, Yarbrough was a matchup nightmare for opposing high school coaches. But the Saint Louis staff believes he can be a defensive stopper with his size and length. "I admit, I didn't play a whole lot of defense in high school," Yarbrough said with a laugh. "But that will all change in college. They really think I can be a defensive presence and guard multiple positions."- See more at: http://www.highschoolcubenews.com/news_article/show/376741?referral=rss#sthash.inCg8BqD.dpuf That's exactly what I was hoping CC would help us with. It didn't work in landing Kelan Martin - tool; but it is nice to see it was a big factor in landing MY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doowop Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The CC effect. He won't get many minutes if there's no D. Hope he plans on getting here early to work w/ CC on his D. I watched his video. Saw a slasher w/an outside shot. Looks like a good pickup. Getting more excited about these FR every day.This is the time for the coaches to add a zone defense to our man to man, so that the players who are not as good at man to man can get some paying time. Why have a good scorer on the bench when we need points because he is weak at man to man? It also can help prevent so many drives to the basket. There are good teams that play good man to man but, will go to a zone for a short while to prevent drives, rest a team, protect a player in foul trouble, or to give the opponent a different look just to throw them off, especially after they have called a time out to adjust to the man to man. They don't have to stay in it long. Don't tell me about how strong our defense was last year. There were time when the defense was very weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 -i'll take what Doc says about not worrying about MY's character and put those thoughts aside, good to hear -from chi sun times....Yarbrough, who chose SLU over UNLV, Bradley, Illinois State and others, is next in line at SLU, joining Whitney Young's Miles Reynolds in the 2014 recruiting class. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 On the Illinois State board they were speculating why MY didn't get around to taking an official visit there - MY's dad was a good player there back in the day. Some speculation/excuses like maybe he didn't want to compete for playing time (at Ill State???) or he didn't want to play in his dad's shadow. Finally, a guy chimed in with an answer which I used to give on this board when we would miss recruits - "Maybe he wants to play for a program that has been to the NCAA Tournament within the last 15 years." It's nice that we are now a program that has that to sell. It seems like the staff has done a good job capitalizing on our recent success. Recruits commit very quickly after visiting. DR, AB, MR and now MY all recent examples. The recruiting process is not dragging on like it used to and we are not regarded as a back-up option for recruits. DR commits to us early rather than continuing to explore SEC options. MB commits shortly after his visit and cancels his planned visit to Creighton (where his parents attended), MR commits after his visit to LSU. MY commits after an offer from UNLV. In the past, it would seeme we were almost always on the losing end of those recruiting situations. Great job by JC and staff. I don't think we're going to be complaining about not having big guards and wings for a long time. We'll find new things to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is the time for the coaches to add a zone defense to our man to man, so that the players who are not as good at man to man can get some paying time. Why have a good scorer on the bench when we need points because he is weak at man to man? It also can help prevent so many drives to the basket. There are good teams that play good man to man but, will go to a zone for a short while to prevent drives, rest a team, protect a player in foul trouble, or to give the opponent a different look just to throw them off, especially after they have called a time out to adjust to the man to man. They don't have to stay in it long. ... Seconded. Thank you. You can have the greatest defense, but you cannot win if you cannot score. You are not going to shut out a team. This is still basketball, as in you have to make baskets to win. You cannot win an NCAA Tournament 3rd Round game against the defending National Champion going 0-15 from 3- point range. In SLU's last 2 NCAA Tournament 3rd Round games, SLU shot a combined 3-36 on 3's, with both opponents, Oregon in '13 and Louisville in '14, playing zone defenses. I do not agree with keeping scorers on the bench because they can't play man to man defense. I agree you need to have a zone defense in the arsenal. I see this Milik Yarbrough signing as a very good move, very favorable. SLU needs a 3 that can score the ball. Yarbrough may be the eventual successor to Dwayne Evans. Zion-Benton is a big (2,800 students) Illinois 4A school. Yarbrough was Chicago Tribune 2nd Team All-State. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 No Brett Thompson? Forgot to look him up. Went back and saw that he wasn't listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Seconded. I see this Milik Yarbrough signing as a very good move, very favorable. SLU needs a 3 that can score the ball. Yarbrough may be the eventual successor to Dwayne Evans. ! While I initially thought that Yarbrough might be a potential successor to DE, now I'm not so sure. Dwayne ended up being a 3 that was stretched into a 4. Yarbrough appears to be more of a 3 than act as a taller 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I remember how small and average build DE was as a freshman; it took a lot of effort on his part to claim his space on the floor with body building, etc. I hope this one works as hard and does as well in school. It is good to see these young men graduating with no shadows or blemished in their reputations as student athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 While I initially thought that Yarbrough might be a potential successor to DE, now I'm not so sure. Dwayne ended up being a 3 that was stretched into a 4. Yarbrough appears to be more of a 3 than act as a taller 2. Yarbrough is definitely more of a 3/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Yarbrough is definitely more of a 3/2 Outside of his size and his inability to jump out of the building, I don't see a lot of similarities in their games. However, I'm comparing 2014 DE to 2014 MY. Perhaps, DE's high school game was more like MY's and I just don't have the frame of reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Basic man to man should be stressed in practice, but slipping a zone into the mix would be a good idea. Also, I hope we actually practice the press this year. With an abundance of guards, I'd think we could pull out a decent press if needed. Heck, it worked against NCS, and we never practiced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Basic man to man should be stressed in practice, but slipping a zone into the mix would be a good idea. Also, I hope we actually practice the press this year. With an abundance of guards, I'd think we could pull out a decent press if needed. Heck, it worked against NCS, and we never practiced it. And big, long athletic guards that could cause lots of probs with an effective press thrown in from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Outside of his size and his inability to jump out of the building, I don't see a lot of similarities in their games. However, I'm comparing 2014 DE to 2014 MY. Perhaps, DE's high school game was more like MY's and I just don't have the frame of reference. MY was much more of a prolific scorer in high school than DE was... DE was known as an outstanding rebounder and defender. During his college career he made himself into an excellent scorer. MY shoots a lot of 3s and has a good looking stroke in his video. He can also get out and score in transition. I don't expect him to post up and score with a lot of back to the basket moves. I think we can expect him to be more of a natural scorer and a better perimeter player than DE. Even though they play the same position, MY seems to be almost the opposite of DE. Rebounding and defense are probably the two areas he will need to work the hardest to develop. I think the one thing they may share in common is that neither overwhelms with athleticism, but rely on being resourceful scorers. The battle for playing time at the 3 will be the most interesting to me. MY, MC and DR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 ... Heck, it worked against NCS, and we never practiced it. The press working for SLU was amazing to see, with an athletic Grandy Glaze covering the inbounds pass, and what looked like a trap in place. I asked fellow fans in our SLU section: "When was the last time you saw SLU win a game with the press." Answer: None of us had any memory of same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Saying we only have the 1 scholarship for next season, what should be the focus position wise? Power forward. We're set on guard and Center. Second choice would be another 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 On the Illinois State board they were speculating why MY didn't get around to taking an official visit there - MY's dad was a good player there back in the day. Some speculation/excuses like maybe he didn't want to compete for playing time (at Ill State???) or he didn't want to play in his dad's shadow. Finally, a guy chimed in with an answer which I used to give on this board when we would miss recruits - "Maybe he wants to play for a program that has been to the NCAA Tournament within the last 15 years." It's nice that we are now a program that has that to sell. It seems like the staff has done a good job capitalizing on our recent success. Recruits commit very quickly after visiting. DR, AB, MR and now MY all recent examples. The recruiting process is not dragging on like it used to and we are not regarded as a back-up option for recruits. DR commits to us early rather than continuing to explore SEC options. MB commits shortly after his visit and cancels his planned visit to Creighton (where his parents attended), MR commits after his visit to LSU. MY commits after an offer from UNLV. In the past, it would seeme we were almost always on the losing end of those recruiting situations. Great job by JC and staff. I don't think we're going to be complaining about not having big guards and wings for a long time. We'll find new things to complain about. I was going to make the point about recruiting visits, but you beat me to it. It sure seems like getting a recruit to visit campus is the key. Whatever they are doing over there is working. I don't want to know what it is. I hope they keep their secret formula for recruiting visits secret. Just seems like several guys sign quickly after visiting. Hope they keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Saying we only have the 1 scholarship for next season, what should be the focus position wise? Agree with those who say best player available. If I had to go specific, I'd say get the best shooter you can find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Let's stop trying to fit new players in "soandso's successor" you'll be disappointed every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 This is the time for the coaches to add a zone defense to our man to man, so that the players who are not as good at man to man can get some paying time. Why have a good scorer on the bench when we need points because he is weak at man to man? It also can help prevent so many drives to the basket. There are good teams that play good man to man but, will go to a zone for a short while to prevent drives, rest a team, protect a player in foul trouble, or to give the opponent a different look just to throw them off, especially after they have called a time out to adjust to the man to man. They don't have to stay in it long. Don't tell me about how strong our defense was last year. There were time when the defense was very weak. Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I should also add another frame of reference with the All-State team by the Chicago Tribune. This year: Milik Yarbrough: 2nd Team Miles Reynolds: Special Mention Marcus Bartley: Special Mention 2012: Keith Carter: First Team 2010: Mike McCall: 2nd Team Dwayne Evans: 3rd Team 2008: Kyle Cassity: Special Mention Ruben Cotto: Special Mention 2005: Kevin Lisch: Special Mention Sooo we're on pace for first teamers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Just to confirm, Yarbrough can dunk, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Truth. Very true. When you look at how many points the dregs were putting up against us at the end, it was very discouraging as we were all screaming for the stops we were used to getting thru most of the season. They basically went missing. Anyone know where we ended up in Kenpom's D efficiency rating at the end? For most of the season we were in the top 10 I believe and in the top 5 for D against the 3 ball. I'm attributing it to second game familiarity and tired legs. If we had tossed a zone in their, it at least would have caused our opponents to make some adjustments. Also, a zone might have worked well against the bigger teams we faced, eg George Mason who killed us on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlhoops Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Well that's enought MY discussion for while. All the scouts and experts on the board here have made their opinions clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Interesting article from 2012 when he was a sophomore: "Milik Yarbrough is the No. 8 nationally-ranked small forward in the Class of 2014 by ESPN Recruiting. He’s considered among the top five prospects in the state." http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/high-school/tag/_/name/milik-yarbrough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Got Milik? sign coming soon to an arena near you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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