wgstl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm sure whatever they're going to say today will be super broad and not helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The came down hard on the players. They wouldn't do a press conference if they players didn't get screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Here is the problem much is know about the situation - you can not keep something like this under wraps for this long without stuff leaking out. I am not sure people are really saying that SLU is racist but that the optics make no sense - boys out and girl still cheering. Because much is known by lots of people the frustration level rises and that is what is bad for Fred and the U. The sooner a resolution is reached the better for all parties involved. As far as lawsuits go - there will be some filed since anybody can sue anyone for anything but in this case the suit has a certain amount of legs for all sides. SLU should just get this over ASAP and let the chips fall where they may. As far as women letting themselves get into to dicey situations - well that happens all the time where the problem is when people think just because they are female then they must be protected regardless of what actually took place. If the father is having a fit because his little girl was soiled then my guess is he has no idea that this was not his little girl's first rodeo - people don't go from A - Z that quickly without hitting some of the letters in between. West Coast Billiken seems to be confusing an anonymous internet chat forum with investigative journalists at WaPo. My opinions, just like everyone else's, are based on the few facts we have and a lot of second hand information. No one is claiming their opinions are based on anything but. This is where people come to speculate. 99% of us on this board have not or will not extend our opinions beyond this board simply because we DON'T know all of the facts. That doesn't mean we still can't form opinions on the matter even if there is little to go on. I know the players haven't been charged with a crime. I know how SLU handled S1. I know what can happen when parents get involved. Short of just two made up twitter profiles (John Brown and T Murks) accusing Pestello and SLU of being racists and sexists, most of the public outcry has been people fed up with the lack of transparency and timing of this whole situation. There's nothing wrong with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, wgstl said: I'm sure whatever they're going to say today will be super broad and not helpful i dont know. if the decision strongly went against the players i could see the attorney's scolding the outcome and the trainwreck process their clients just endured for almost 4 months. a hard stance decision would send the message "you can appeal, but....." thus at this point, let em know it is now time to open the vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just now, Westy03 said: The came down hard on the players. They wouldn't do a press conference if they players didn't get screwed Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 What a clusterfuok. Let the fires of pr hell rain down upon Fred and SLU. They deserve everything they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, ARon said: Between this and what I’m assuming is Welmer’s career threatening injury issue, I hope T Ford is still recruiting the ‘18 class hard. My thought when I saw in the 2018 recruiting thread that some guard had received an offer from SLU that it portended bad news regarding Situation II. Coach Ford may have had to go from maybe thinking about oversubscribing on scholarships in case of a transfer or Welmer's injury being career ending to knowing that he has some slots to fill, and they're guard spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just now, Westy03 said: The came down hard on the players. They wouldn't do a press conference if they players didn't get screwed Let's not rush to judgment on that. If they have been publicly vilified, a public announcement of their innocence would also make a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliken Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Westy03 said: The came down hard on the players. They wouldn't do a press conference if they players didn't get screwed I don't know. I'm not ready to assume that yet. I could see them doing a press conference for a 'We're relieved that this process has reached a favorable decision'. Or 'unfortunately, the process took this amount of time'. Or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Since the players would have no chance in winning an appeal, I say go for SLU's throat in this press conference and end this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -who traveled to UMass? or who didn't? I'm very afraid our bball program just exploded and it will take a long time to recover, the decision has been made and many of us will find it unbelievable More like imploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slu let the dogs out? Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Question about signed recruits: Gordon and Thatch can decommit but they would both have to sit out a year, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 -SLU hired an outside firm to handle Title IX, they better have the absolute BEST pr/damage control firm in the world in DuBourg Hall right now ready to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, WestCoastBilliken said: love that the 'oh holier then thou' billiken poster has an issue with me wanting to wait for the actual story to come out before i start calling every person who may or may not even be involved in anything racist, sexist, and incompetent. You assisted on getting us to 200 pages on this thread. Relax West Coast you have been one of the good posters on this site and I get what you are saying but folks have their opinion and people jump to conclusions. Besides I resemble one of those old guys you were talking about a few posts back. I think the SLU administration has not performed well based on everything I read and I think it is okay for myself and others to believe that. Happy Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappy96 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The police report will come out eventually. Then we won’t need to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, ARon said: Between this and what I’m assuming is Welmer’s career threatening injury issue, I hope T Ford is still recruiting the ‘18 class hard. He can hit it as hard as he wants, the school is screwing him. This is a disaster for recruiting. Plus, if you are Bess and Foreman why do you stick around this train wreck if you can transfer without sitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -who traveled to UMass? or who didn't? I'm very afraid our bball program just exploded and it will take a long time to recover, the decision has been made and many of us will find it unbelievable Why? We are an average - A10 team now with the guys that have been playing. That doesn’t change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Question about signed recruits: Gordon and Thatch can decommit but they would both have to sit out a year, correct? only if slu wouldnt let them out of their LOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Bad for recruiting? So players aren't going to come here because they can't video group sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The future is French, Goodwin, and Gordon. Unless/until one of them leaves/decommits the program is far from dead in the water. Zink likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, ARon said: Why? We are an average - A10 team now with the guys that have been playing. That doesn’t change. -read the questions - who traveled? or who didn't? there is change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: i dont know. if the decision strongly went against the players i could see the attorney's scolding the outcome and the trainwreck process their clients just endured for almost 4 months. a hard stance decision would send the message "you can appeal, but....." thus at this point, let em know it is now time to open the vault. I hope this is the case. Ive just lost all hope on anything going right during this entire 5 month process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, kmbilliken said: Bad for recruiting? So players aren't going to come here because they can't video group sex? Players aren't going to come here because their parents think they are going to get screwed over by the school. This is the second time this has happened in less than a decade. Opposing programs now have a pattern of incidents they will tell parents about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, kmbilliken said: Bad for recruiting? So players aren't going to come here because they can't video group sex? I dont think this will hurt recruiting, much. I say much, because I can only see it hurting if the family or player who is being recruited asks about how this whole thing went down(or did their own research). Sure, players shouldnt have video taped what went down, but the school also didnt give a frick about getting this resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluBallz Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Free the four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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