Popular Post slu72 Posted January 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2018 If anyone stuck around to watch Travis' interview w/ the FB interviewer you could just see his emotion after today's win. He's been thru the grinder this season and it was telling in his last two interviews. He's proud of his team the way they've played thru unreal adversity. Not only unreal but unnecessary if Rosenblaum is to be believed. He was holding back tears today as well. SLU must keep this guy. I know his dream job is probably UK, but until that opens keep him at SLU. God knows we need him more than ever. JettFlight5, Gremio14, GoBills73 and 15 others like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Truth. Two years in a row it’s amazing how much better this team is by mid-January compared to Mid-November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, billikenbill said: Truth. Two years in a row it’s amazing how much better this team is by mid-January compared to Mid-November. I was going to say this earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 These eight players have all improved with Ford and staff- next year’s recruits will get a lot of PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 18 hours ago, GOSLU68 said: These eight players have all improved with Ford and staff- next year’s recruits will get a lot of PT This is why I think nobody leaves and the 3 commits hold. Ford will have a 3 more schollies for sure to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, cheeseman said: This is why I think nobody leaves and the 3 commits hold. Ford will have a 3 more schollies for sure to fill. Its the forth that worries me....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 The fourth and Gordon not changing his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Billiken Rich said: Its the forth that worries me....... From what I have heard the fourth is not one that has been playing but the one who got the lesser of the suspensions.. Now you have to connect a few dots to figure this out so I am not 100% sure but I think this more right then wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, cheeseman said: From what I have heard the fourth is not one that has been playing but the one who got the lesser of the suspensions.. Now you have to connect a few dots to figure this out so I am not 100% sure but I think this more right then wrong. Not criticizing your post, but it reads like a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Interpretations are welcome. Guessing at it, it means that Goodwin is a 24 month guy, so it's bye-bye JGood. Regardless of who else is involved, it's bye-bye to all three as the only one who I could possibly see staying would be Goodwin as he hasn't used a redshirt year. Based on anything I've read about this, and of course, not knowing the whole story, the punishments are outlandish and there has to be a mechanism to fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSide_Billiken Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, cheeseman said: From what I have heard the fourth is not one that has been playing but the one who got the lesser of the suspensions.. Now you have to connect a few dots to figure this out so I am not 100% sure but I think this more right then wrong. What are you trying to say? Without question, the three players who have not been in the arena during games are involved. Are you trying to say that the fourth player is not one of the eight that are playing (i.e., the fourth player is not JG)? Are you implying that the fourth player is one of the following: Welmer, Santos, or Raboin. Does this mean that there was something more to the tweets by what appeared to be Santos' girlfriend? At this point I have no idea what to believe, and the optimist in me continues struggle with the realist in me. However, I sure hope that if you are implying JG is not involved that you are correct. It's hard to rationalize what is going on because it is impossible to rationalize with irrational people. Regardless of who is involved, however, there is no question that this whole process was a sham. Administration at SLU needs to be completely overhauled. The "gold standard" needs to be publicly scrutinized for its inherent biases towards not only men, but black men in particular. Hopefully, the Board of Trustees and those few people in the administration with common sense (if there are any left) realize the miscarriage of justice that occurred here. They can never reverse the damage already done to these young men, but they sure can prevent any further damage from being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, SouthSide_Billiken said: What are you trying to say? Without question, the three players who have not been in the arena during games are involved. Are you trying to say that the fourth player is not one of the eight that are playing (i.e., the fourth player is not JG)? Are you implying that the fourth player is one of the following: Welmer, Santos, or Raboin. Does this mean that there was something more to the tweets by what appeared to be Santos' girlfriend? At this point I have no idea what to believe, and the optimist in me continues struggle with the realist in me. However, I sure hope that if you are implying JG is not involved that you are correct. It's hard to rationalize what is going on because it is impossible to rationalize with irrational people. Regardless of who is involved, however, there is no question that this whole process was a sham. Administration at SLU needs to be completely overhauled. The "gold standard" needs to be publicly scrutinized for its inherent biases towards not only men, but black men in particular. Hopefully, the Board of Trustees and those few people in the administration with common sense (if there are any left) realize the miscarriage of justice that occurred here. They can never reverse the damage already done to these young men, but they sure can prevent any further damage from being done. You’re twisting yourself up in knots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, SouthSide_Billiken said: What are you trying to say? Without question, the three players who have not been in the arena during games are involved. Are you trying to say that the fourth player is not one of the eight that are playing (i.e., the fourth player is not JG)? Are you implying that the fourth player is one of the following: Welmer, Santos, or Raboin. Does this mean that there was something more to the tweets by what appeared to be Santos' girlfriend? At this point I have no idea what to believe, and the optimist in me continues struggle with the realist in me. However, I sure hope that if you are implying JG is not involved that you are correct. It's hard to rationalize what is going on because it is impossible to rationalize with irrational people. Regardless of who is involved, however, there is no question that this whole process was a sham. Administration at SLU needs to be completely overhauled. The "gold standard" needs to be publicly scrutinized for its inherent biases towards not only men, but black men in particular. Hopefully, the Board of Trustees and those few people in the administration with common sense (if there are any left) realize the miscarriage of justice that occurred here. They can never reverse the damage already done to these young men, but they sure can prevent any further damage from being done. This is something I'm wondering, too. Is it possible that Rosenblum represents Bishop, Henriquez, and Santos, Rogers represents Goodwin, and an unidentified non-local attorney represents Graves? Obviously, I have no knowledge of details and it could just be wishful thinking on my part, but if this were to be the case, it seems to help some things add up. Goodwin has been playing all season, and he hasn't been playing like he has a cloud over his head. It has been said that the accusers recanted regarding him. While we've been operating under the assumption that he was the fourth player, maybe it has been someone else. It has also been said that members of a sorority associated with some of the accusers — I could be wrong on some of this — posted on social media back in September that six men were involved. I didn't see the alleged post(s) and don't know the names, so I may just be grasping at straws. Moreover, it was once stated that Graves had retained representation other than the local attorneys (Rosenblum and Rogers). If that's so, then for Ros. to represent three and Rog. to represent one, the numbers don't add up if Graves isn't one of those. Rog. says Ros. has no first-hand knowledge of the ruling made towards his client; if the expulsion was for the client of a third attorney, then that makes sense. And the tweets liked by Santos might suggest he was involved. (I'm not wishing that on him!) All circumstantial, I confess, but I'm not as sold as many of you that J-Good is gone and the program is doomed. But the culture at the school is doomed without some changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Doesn’t Goodwin have a girlfriend at Slu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, SouthSide_Billiken said: What are you trying to say? Without question, the three players who have not been in the arena during games are involved. Are you trying to say that the fourth player is not one of the eight that are playing (i.e., the fourth player is not JG)? Are you implying that the fourth player is one of the following: Welmer, Santos, or Raboin. Does this mean that there was something more to the tweets by what appeared to be Santos' girlfriend? At this point I have no idea what to believe, and the optimist in me continues struggle with the realist in me. However, I sure hope that if you are implying JG is not involved that you are correct. It's hard to rationalize what is going on because it is impossible to rationalize with irrational people. Regardless of who is involved, however, there is no question that this whole process was a sham. Administration at SLU needs to be completely overhauled. The "gold standard" needs to be publicly scrutinized for its inherent biases towards not only men, but black men in particular. Hopefully, the Board of Trustees and those few people in the administration with common sense (if there are any left) realize the miscarriage of justice that occurred here. They can never reverse the damage already done to these young men, but they sure can prevent any further damage from being done. Not saying I know anything, but does anyone find it odd that Raboin hasn’t appeared in even one game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: Doesn’t Goodwin have a girlfriend at Slu I have no idea, but I thought that was pertaining to Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, BIG BILL FAN said: Not saying I know anything, but does anyone find it odd that Raboin hasn’t appeared in even one game? No. It's not unusual for a walk-on to redshirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu2016 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, BIG BILL FAN said: Not saying I know anything, but does anyone find it odd that Raboin hasn’t appeared in even one game? According to the game notes he's ineligible because he's a JUCO transfer: http://www.slubillikens.com/fls/27200/MBB/201718/notes/BillikensNotes_20.pdf?&DB_OEM_ID=27200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: This is something I'm wondering, too. Is it possible that Rosenblum represents Bishop, Henriquez, and Santos, Rogers represents Goodwin, and an unidentified non-local attorney represents Graves? Obviously, I have no knowledge of details and it could just be wishful thinking on my part, but if this were to be the case, it seems to help some things add up. Goodwin has been playing all season, and he hasn't been playing like he has a cloud over his head. It has been said that the accusers recanted regarding him. While we've been operating under the assumption that he was the fourth player, maybe it has been someone else. It has also been said that members of a sorority associated with some of the accusers — I could be wrong on some of this — posted on social media back in September that six men were involved. I didn't see the alleged post(s) and don't know the names, so I may just be grasping at straws. Moreover, it was once stated that Graves had retained representation other than the local attorneys (Rosenblum and Rogers). If that's so, then for Ros. to represent three and Rog. to represent one, the numbers don't add up if Graves isn't one of those. Rog. says Ros. has no first-hand knowledge of the ruling made towards his client; if the expulsion was for the client of a third attorney, then that makes sense. And the tweets liked by Santos might suggest he was involved. (I'm not wishing that on him!) All circumstantial, I confess, but I'm not as sold as many of you that J-Good is gone and the program is doomed. But the culture at the school is doomed without some changes. It probably is grasping at straws, but I had heard that Graves had a non-local attorney. Of course, it could be very likely that Rogers was brought in to be a local presence and is working with the out of town guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Could it be roby? Maybe playing through graduation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Good golly. Reading into all this crap is givig me a migrane. I'm taking the title 9 office to court for causing me pain and suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChangeOfPace Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Can someone link to the post from Santos’ girlfriend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: You’re twisting yourself up in knots. Everyone posting in this thread has been doing exactly that for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonball18 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Hey, if the Dems can shut down the govt for the "dreamers", and Killary and the other socialists want a world without borders, and illegals get sanctuary cities to protect them----even getting away with murder (look it up libs), then how can players not charged with anything get suspended??? Maybe the players need the 9th circuit judge to rule in their favor????? Seriously, one far left judge seems to be able to overturn written laws, so lets see what SLU does against that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG BILL FAN Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, slu2016 said: According to the game notes he's ineligible because he's a JUCO transfer: http://www.slubillikens.com/fls/27200/MBB/201718/notes/BillikensNotes_20.pdf?&DB_OEM_ID=27200 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonball18 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Seriously, these players are getting a longer sentence than Kate Steinle's illegal immigrant killer! TELL ME HOW THIS IS RIGHT YOU POS CORRUPT SLU ADMINISTRATION!!! Here's the link for those living under a rock: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/05/kate-steinle-shooting-jose-ines-garcia-zarate-sentencing/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjzjseIs-rYAhVI7qwKHVnNDVkQFjADegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw185Yqv04zzGEBx38Dh8XjN&cf=1 Bobby Metzinger likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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