Compton Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Heading into the season where are we in terms of injuries? I guess we'll know more soon, but what's the latest in terms of who's not available, who's not 100% and who's healthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, Compton said: Heading into the season where are we in terms of injuries? I guess we'll know more soon, but what's the latest in terms of who's not available, who's not 100% and who's healthy? Hopefully we get some of that information this week with our first exhibition game on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 We know that Welmer will not be playing for the first half of the season, Ford said so. About the others, I think we can expect to see them at play soon. I believe all the others are considered to be fully capable to play with no restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Compton said: Heading into the season where are we in terms of injuries? I guess we'll know more soon, but what's the latest in terms of who's not available, who's not 100% and who's healthy? Besides day to day injuries at practice last week everyone was going full tilt save for Welmer. Goodwin and French played as if they had no lingering ailments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 actual eyewitness to a practice?! nobody a scarlet letter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Nice article from Stu on Foreman, the one transfer we seem to know the least about. Seems to clear up a lot regarding his health, maybe our Old Guy can chime in also? http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/transfer-foreman-glad-to-be-healthy-playing-at-slu/article_94b3b626-17f6-5915-afb2-b89308b152b8.amp.html CBFan likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Read the article. It is clear from what the article says that he had a long lasting chronic problem with his hip that gave him pain and most likely limited his ability to play while at Rutgers. It is too bad that he never had a proper exam with X rays and a consult with a proper orthopedic surgeon until he got there. The description of the injury as a partially torn ligament and "hip impingment" (whatever that means) is to vague to even start guessing as to what was done surgically to correct the problem, and it says even less as to what may or may not be expected from this. It is clear however that he had a lengthy period of rest and did not participate in full practice or exercise until many months after the surgery. I really cannot shed any more light based upon the information available, we have to see him play and hope he can continue playing with no restriction. I know this is not a satisfactory answer but it is the best I can do with the info available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmySportsDoc Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Old guy said: Read the article. It is clear from what the article says that he had a long lasting chronic problem with his hip that gave him pain and most likely limited his ability to play while at Rutgers. It is too bad that he never had a proper exam with X rays and a consult with a proper orthopedic surgeon until he got there. The description of the injury as a partially torn ligament and "hip impingment" (whatever that means) is to vague to even start guessing as to what was done surgically to correct the problem, and it says even less as to what may or may not be expected from this. It is clear however that he had a lengthy period of rest and did not participate in full practice or exercise until many months after the surgery. I really cannot shed any more light based upon the information available, we have to see him play and hope he can continue playing with no restriction. I know this is not a satisfactory answer but it is the best I can do with the info available. Old Guy, Playing statistics I’d have to disagree. Impingement is FAI or femoroacetabular impingement, and this presentation is classic. There may or may not have been anything surgical to do earlier in his course, but he should have been seeing a physical therapist regardless, which I am unsure if he did. My suspicion is the torn “ligament” Stu references was actually the labrum. Both athletes and media frequently misinterpret what they are told by physicians due to a lack of understanding. This would make this case similar to that of Isaiah Thomas of the Celtics and now Cavs, which they have chosen to treat nonoperatively. If anyone wants a quick primer on FAI there is a Sports Medicine podcast called “The Break” on iTunes that just released an episode discussing this issue. These conclusions certainly involve a degree of speculation, but statistically this is by far the most likely scenario based upon the information we have. majerus mojo likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 ArmySportsDoc you may be much better at sports medicine than I will ever be. I am glad you can make sense and fill the blanks left out by the information available, I plainly cannot do so without solid evidence. It may be entirely as you say and statistically the results may be entirely favorable to Foreman, assuming of course that your interpretation of what happened and the treatment given is correct. As far as I am concerned I would be doing too much guessing to come with anything close to what you said, but again this was not my primary area. The facts as I know are that he had pain and limitations for a long time, then had surgery which supposedly treated a partially torn ligament and "hip impingement", followed by a lengthy recovery period post op. I really cannot make the jump from these facts to a diagnosis of FAI. The one thing you did not provide was his prognosis for full recovery after surgery. Could you provide illumination about his prognosis for playing actively without limitations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmySportsDoc Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Old guy said: ArmySportsDoc you may be much better at sports medicine than I will ever be. I am glad you can make sense and fill the blanks left out by the information available, I plainly cannot do so without solid evidence. It may be entirely as you say and statistically the results may be entirely favorable to Foreman, assuming of course that your interpretation of what happened and the treatment given is correct. As far as I am concerned I would be doing too much guessing to come with anything close to what you said, but again this was not my primary area. The facts as I know are that he had pain and limitations for a long time, then had surgery which supposedly treated a partially torn ligament and "hip impingement", followed by a lengthy recovery period post op. I really cannot make the jump from these facts to a diagnosis of FAI. The one thing you did not provide was his prognosis for full recovery after surgery. Could you provide illumination about his prognosis for playing actively without limitations? Old Guy, Great question, and I’m not sure I can provide an equally astute answer on long term prognosis. Since I believe Foreman only has 2 years of eligibility left, however, I would expect his prognosis to be very good functionally while he is at SLU. FAI is still a fairly new concept. It’s only been widely studied for a little over a decade and there are still large gaps in the evidence. Additional factors include the type of FAI, as there are three subtypes. In CAM type FAI there is a bony overgrowth at the femoral head neck junction, pincer type involves an overgrowth of the superior rim of the acetabulum (socket), and mixed type involving both of the above (which is most common). Surgical treatment is usually arthroscopic and involves shaving the overgrowth back in order to remove the area of impingement and potentially repair of any additional damage (such as a labral year) that resulted from the excess friction the impingement caused. Purely anecdotally, I have seen people do quite well following these procedures in the short term, but unfortunately for DJ, I don’t think the long term outcomes are quite as good with early arthritis and additional labral pathology common. This is why Isaiah Thomas has opted for a non-surgical approach at present, but given that SLU treated aggressively and gave DJ the time needed to recover postoperatively, I’d expect him to do well for the remainder of his eligibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 OK, so we can expect him to be able to play well for the next couple of years at SLU. That is good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Welmer just posted a pic on Instagram saying “when you get cleared to do this again” and the billikens players are commenting in the comment section saying how they are ready to go, did welmer just get cleared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Cleared to practice is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Yes, indeed he is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I really think Welmer is an important piece of the puzzle. Pretty good as a weak-side defender, and his range can cause problems against any team's defense. Really hoping he gets and stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 If I were Welmer, that picture would be a poster on the wall of my apartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Good news that he's moving down the road to full recovery. The sooner he's back the better our chances of Ws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Has there been any update or additional clarity on what's going on with Foreman? Also, is Anthony dealing with something or is there another reason he got 1 minute against Campbell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills73 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 And why is Welmer going backwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Welmer back in a boot today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Dude is injury prone. Wasted scholarship as of now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, BigMouthBilliken said: Dude is injury prone. Wasted scholarship as of now It sure seems odd that he keeps having problems like this - surely they could tell that it was not healing properly. He may never make it back to the court this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Doubt if he ever plays. Two surgeries for the same bone. Finally starting to be active and he is back in a boot. It seems like his foot can't hold up to the requirements of D1 basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 9 hours ago, kmbilliken said: Doubt if he ever plays. Two surgeries for the same bone. Finally starting to be active and he is back in a boot. It seems like his foot can't hold up to the requirements of D1 basketball. Tough break for the kid but reality better be setting in. Looks like we have another schollie for next year if he can not come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
615Billiken Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Any updates on Foreman? He left the game injured last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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