The Wiz Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 SLU........................................................................GW.. D.....................................overall..............................B- .......................................Offense................................. F-......................................PPG................................D F / C- / D-.........................Slash.............................F+/ B+ /A- F+.....................................Tot Reb.............................B- C-.......................................TOs................................C- ..........................................Defense................................ B-........................................PPG................................B- C- / D..................................Slash..............................C- / D C-.......................................Opp Reb.........................B+ F+......................................Opp TOs..........................F Trending up.........FG% Trending down.....Tot Reb....3pt defense Can we beat this team....the simple answer is yes. The above spread is used on the full season model....The trending model ( last 13 games) shows this game even. GW at B- comes in with the same grade as GM. And if you examine the report card there are a lot of similarities. So why is there such a big difference in the overall grade. Because they can shoot 3's and FTs plus they Reb. Some big obstacles to overcome but it can be done. Their big 3 scorers are....Cavanaugh ( leads in Pts & Reb), Watanabe (leads in FG%) and Sina ( leads in assts & steals). What do we need to do to win....Defend the 3...we need to keep their 3pt% at a third. We need to match them in reb....Less TOs than GW and more FTA and of course at least a normal Bills shooting night.. Bottomline....If we can continue to trend ...we win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 We are playing with house money... down 18 in second half and we win. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see us play very well tonight. At the same time, wouldn't be surprised to see us lose by 25. Its 50-50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I'd like to see more of Moore, more of Roby handling the point, and less of Hines tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, hsmith19 said: I'd like to see more of Moore, more of Roby handling the point, and less of Hines tonight. Roby's court awareness and passing has been great this 2nd half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is the night Hines baffles us all and plays great. Davell's shot returns, and Elliott continues as an overWelmer. Still, Watanabe torches us on the inside, Sina smokes us from outside and Gdub pulls out a nailbiter. Still, been a fun season and looking forward to much more next year. Early thank you to MC and RA for perservering through many losses with much class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 This is the game where Gilman scores 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppybeer Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, BillsBeliever!!! said: This is the game where Gilman scores 50 He had his chance last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Shoutout to Gillmann for not focking anything up in his 2 mins last night. I'm being serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: Shoutout to Gillmann for not focking anything up in his 2 mins last night. I'm being serious True that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, hsmith19 said: I'd like to see more of Moore, more of Roby handling the point, and less of Hines tonight. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, CBFan said: +1 Honestly what do we have to lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 My biggest knock on Zeke was honestly that I trust Ford and saw that if Zeke wasn't getting the opportunity Johnson was, maybe he wasn't good. During his limited playing time recently I think he getting less minutes than he should, and I would like him to run the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, Glorydays2013 said: Honestly what do we have to lose? More importantly Moore has earned more playing time now that his shot is in a good zone right now. The team dynamic has changed as the season has progressed. Hines for most of the season after Bishop went down Hines was the floor general and the offense did nothing when he sat on the bench. Now Roby and Moore's play has greatly improved and I think the best 5 on floor is Welmer, JJ, Crawford, Roby and Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Geedubya is a two-man team and like Davidson, while both Geedubya guys are bigs, they excel more on the exterior than interior ala Peyton Aldridge. Cavanaugh is a 6'9" Euro big -- more comfortable from 25 feet out than 2 feet in. Watanabee is also more an international big but he can and will take the occasional drive/slash to the basket. Neither plays with their back to the basket. To me, Sina is okay but he is not a ballhandler. He is more the spot up and shoot guy ala old Micha Mason. He is deadly from the free throw line and not bad from 3pt range. Buthe is short an dnot that quick on the release. Overall, their guards are not impressive. The key to me would be to make someone other than Watanabee and Cavanaugh beat you. But we saw that up close and personal in Foggy Bottom this year when we let Patrick Steeves play like an All-American against us, Steeves doubled his ppg against us by dropping a baker's dozen of 13 and even though we led for all but about six minutes of the game, we wilted down the stretch. So we can win this one. Folks will say Geedubya is hot coming in having won five in a row and six of their last seven. But short of Dayton, they constructed this run against the same dregs of th e league we built our six or seven wins against. And while they beat Dayton in closing last Saturday at home, it was a good thing they created a 20 point lead because Dayton was charging at the end. Clock ran out about five minutes too soon for YouDee. The issue to me will be matching up on the defensive side of both balls. For them, they do run a little freaky 1-3-1 half court zone trap press with Watanabee's 6'9" frame on top. That is tough to play against because you don't see it that often anymore. On the other side of the defensive, we need to close out on our zone. And yet, even if we are fats to the spot, both Cavanaugh and Watanabee at 6'9" will easily rise up over Hines and Crawford for relatively uncontested shots. Here's hoping for an off night in an empty gym with deep shooting backgrounds they have not seen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Of course, I want the Bills to beat GW and think they may still be hopped up from last night's victory. Let's hope for the best. Team Rankings shows a spread of 9 pts in favor of GW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Moore season reminding me a bit of Bartley's first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Over\under number of times Watanabee is on the floor? Typical hack and flopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 We beat a better GW team last year. That's all I'm hanging my hat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yeah, there's not much on paper to like about our chances here. They've won 5 in a row and beat us earlier this season. Cavanaugh and Watanabe are tough matchups. They actually are fairly interchangeable outside the top 3, so I'm hoping at least one of Cavanaugh, Watanabe, and Sina can get into some foul trouble. I just hope we shoot well and play sound basketball - which means Hines can't be gunning. Get some open looks for the freshmen shooters. Reggie brings his best hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 56 minutes ago, almaman said: Moore season reminding me a bit of Bartley's first. In that most of his scoring comes from 3? Otherwise they don't seem to be that similar to me. Zeke is much more athletic, and has much higher potential IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, Pistol said: Yeah, there's not much on paper to like about our chances here. They've won 5 in a row and beat us earlier this season. Cavanaugh and Watanabe are tough matchups. They actually are fairly interchangeable outside the top 3, so I'm hoping at least one of Cavanaugh, Watanabe, and Sina can get into some foul trouble. I just hope we shoot well and play sound basketball - which means Hines can't be gunning. Get some open looks for the freshmen shooters. Reggie brings his best hands. Cavanaugh is the one to worry about. They're 17-8 when he plays at least 30 minutes, 1-5 when he doesn't. Watanabe isn't the same kind of difference maker, I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Almost...but we ran out of gas.... Let's check the bottom line from the original post........ Defend the 3...keep them below 1/3 from the arc.....20%....check Match them in Reb....close but fail....36 to 35 Have more FTA....again close but fail....8-8 Normal shooting night....fail..3pt% =.23% ...missed an extra three 3s = 9pts but we held them to 20% so not that damaging TO differential.....Big fail...this was the killer...an extra 8 TOs...worth 16pts This could have been an easy win under normal circumstances....we led in almost all those categories into the 2nd half ...but then the big fade ..out of gas...this team using 7 players is not built to play every night. Next year more depth. And we finish up our best season in 3 years doing more with less. Tick...tick ...tick ...and we are done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Wiz, is there a season wrap up? Did we finish D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 hours ago, kmbilliken said: Wiz, is there a season wrap up? Did we finish D? I am working on it ... I will put a Bills report card out today..... and yes we finished at D. It still could change because even though we are done many teams we have played are still playing and that affects us. . I am relatively sure though, we will finish at D unless Day , RI and VCU all finish in the Final 4. In addition, after the Final Four , I will put out a final report card on the A-10. with a comparison of the mid term (beginning of conf play) and start of the year (game 8) report cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 -thanks Wiz, like your stuff....except the rankings prior to 8 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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