slufan13 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 There's not a single player coach or manager that gives a ###### what I have to say but all I want to say is just go out there and have some fun these last couple games. Who cares about winning at this point. I've been overly harsh and critical this season and the players have enough to deal with than to read me and others criticize their every action. Follow the team leaders and go out and have fun as a team. Who knows? Maybe we'll string together some wins in Brooklyn.I'll be just as big of a fan next year and the years after that. I always want to be good but watching this team looking so depressed sucks more than losing.-slufan13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken class of 15 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Well said. I've done my fair share of grumbling too. But it will take much more than a disastrous season to stop me from loving my Billikens. Bills fan for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Keep your head up guys. Remember these ass whippings when you're putting in work in the offseason. Use it as fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Well said. I've done my fair share of grumbling too. But it will take much more than a disastrous season to stop me from loving my Billikens. Bills fan for life. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Exactly, it looks like the enjoyment of the game has been sucked out of them. They start out games fired up, but once any sign of distress happens they tighten up. Have fun and enjoy playing the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Said this in another thread but it probably fits here too. Just want to see the guys have some fun to finish. I actually agree with AlumniFan now for the most part. I don't agree with his support of Crews although I think Crews is getting too much blame. Coaches always get too much credit when things are going well and too much blame when they aren't. The players shouldn't be immune to criticism, but the guys honestly just look depressed. I finally agree with Crews' whole thing about how the players need encouragement and not critics. I don't know why the players read this board, but losing sucks enough as it is. To then have to read all of us just rip on them over and over has to really suck. The body language sucks for the team right now. They have 2 pretty clear leaders in place with Roby and Crawford, but losing takes its toll no matter who's leading the way. It's just hard to watch. Got there almost 2 hours early yesterday and Crawford was the only one out there for about 30 minutes. Just putting up shot after shot. It's great to see the dedication even when things are going rough and I know guys have a routine for when they start warming up, but the guy just looked lonely out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Erwin Claggett @CoachClagg13 Follow My SLU Career 91-92 5 wins 92-93 12 wins 93-94 23 wins nationally ranked 94-95 23 wins nationally ranked Trust the process Bills Fans 9:44 PM - 28 Feb 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Erwin Claggett @CoachClagg13 Follow My SLU Career 91-92 5 wins 92-93 12 wins 93-94 23 wins nationally ranked 94-95 23 wins nationally ranked Trust the process Bills Fans 9:44 PM - 28 Feb 2015 jesus christ that helps. thanks, clags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Erwin Claggett @CoachClagg13Follow My SLU Career 91-92 5 wins 92-93 12 wins 93-94 23 wins nationally ranked 94-95 23 wins nationally ranked Trust the process Bills Fans 9:44 PM - 28 Feb 2015 He left out the fact that the coach got fired and a veteran high quality point guard transfered in before the team jumped to 23 wins. Is that the process he is endorsing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 And he roughed it out thru 2 awful seasons, here's hoping our FR follow his example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamitalian85 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I agree. I would like the guys to go out and have some fun. My only hope is that the mindset of the team is in the right place. It can be hard to trust a process when you are not experiences great results. Be interesting to see who sticks around to let it play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Slufan13 could not agree more with your initial post in this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 It's obviously a season all around, but the lows are what make the highs that much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Why would players read this board? Nothing good can come of it. We're mostly a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks taking a break from work or the family to post. They are better athletes and have achieved far more athletically than any of us ever dreamed about. The one thing we have in common is we love watching the Bills play and want them to do well. That doesn't mean we know anything. Who cares what we think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 -did I miss something on this players reading this board front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 AlumniFan, Napa is less than an hour away from my locale. I will send you a PM, and perhaps we can get together for dinner, my treat as the local host. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 There are some players who follow this board religiously. There always has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 There are some players who follow this board religiously. There always has been. Sadly true. They are not making the big bucks and don't deserve some of the crap they get on. This is especially true when it comes to some of the personal shots that get directed at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Why would players read this board? Nothing good can come of it. We're mostly a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks taking a break from work or the family to post. They are better athletes and have achieved far more athletically than any of us ever dreamed about. The one thing we have in common is we love watching the Bills play and want them to do well. That doesn't mean we know anything. Who cares what we think? Quite frankly, I'd prefer it if the coaching staff read this Board. What do we know? We know a lot. Am I a college coach? No. But I am a long time follower of the program, and I dare say I know more than Average Joe or Jane on the street. I've closely followed SLU Hoops since 1978, and watched SLU Hoops on TV before that, going back to the early 1970's. If the players the Coach has recruited cannot run the offense installed and cannot play the defense selected, then at bare minimum, the Coach needs to make changes, in-season changes, in the systems. Running the same systems at both ends has led to the noncompetitive performances of the last 2 home games, against George Mason and St. Bona, one a bad team, the other an average at best team playing without a point guard. I don't buy this Zone Defense if forbidden forever argument because SLU has not practiced it. What is this talk, including from the Coach, that SLU's defense was good last night? What I saw way too much was Bona getting the ball into the paint, either scoring or getting fouled (per the interpretation of the game by the A10 refs). Yes, the defense was better than against George Mason, but that Mason game had to have been the bottom of Rock Bottom. It cannot get worse than George Mason 78 @SLU 50. The SLU Offense more and more reminds of the Stanford Band- organized confusion, except the Stanford Band members actually know where they are going. It only looks like they don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 He left out the fact that the coach got fired and a veteran high quality point guard transfered in before the team jumped to 23 wins. Is that the process he is endorsing? He's referencing the inevitable arrival of JT and TC in 2016 and the resurrection of RM to lead us to a national title. Why would players read this board? Nothing good can come of it. We're mostly a bunch of Monday morning quarterbacks taking a break from work or the family to post. They are better athletes and have achieved far more athletically than any of us ever dreamed about. The one thing we have in common is we love watching the Bills play and want them to do well. That doesn't mean we know anything. Who cares what we think? Some people yearn for constructive criticism and grow better because of it. The haters are their motivators. Here's to hoping they read the board and appreciate our input while also taking it with a grain of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The defense wasn't good last night. The boonies averaged a point per pocession and had effective fg% of 50%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I really do not know what to tell this team - you can say all the cliches like keep your head up, wait until next year, keep working hard but none of these help the situation in anyway that counts. If the problem is coaching or players who are not listening to the coaches or a combination of both - it really does not matter because as the Big Tuna said - you are what your record says you are. Now how does this improve - everybody - players and coaches have to look into the mirror and say that they will do what is necessary to make this team better. Coaches have to coach better, recruit better, and make tough decisions about players and the future. Players have to listen to the coaches and work hard in the off season on what the coaches tell them they need to do. Will this happen - I can only hope so. By the way, it is easy for the younger folks on this board to keep their heads up about the team but for those of us who have been following this team decades it becomes a bit harder. After seeing us rise with Polk as the coach but then crash, rise with Grawer and then crash, rise with Spoon and then crash, rise with RM and then crash - you can only take so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillinthemost Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 He's referencing the inevitable arrival of JT and TC in 2016 and the resurrection of RM to lead us to a national title. Some people yearn for constructive criticism and grow better because of it. The haters are their motivators. Here's to hoping they read the board and appreciate our input while also taking it with a grain of salt. Thats the key word in that statement - not much constructive criticism occurring here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 AlumniFan, Napa is less than an hour away from my locale. I will send you a PM, and perhaps we can get together for dinner, my treat as the local host. It just so happens that I am going to Napa as well. Perhaps all 3 of us could meet and you could pick up the tab (wink wink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 How many layups can a team miss in one game? Is it possible that a year of weight lifting will result in those being made in the next 3 years. How many rebounds can you get your hands on, and lose? Is it possible that a year of weight lifting will result in those not being lost in the next 3 years. Is this group of frosh enough, absolutely not. We need a PG that keep in front of the other team's pg and stop them from killing us with dribble penetration. Do we need a rebounder that can defend the paint and chip 6-10 garbage points a game? Yes., hopefully it's Neufeld or Jolly, but who knows. Last night the boys fought, (not like the GM game, where there was no real fight). They got out muscled by a mainly junior/senior team. We need a couple of players and we need to get stronger, physically and emotionally. Let's hope its a great summer for the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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