Pistol Posted March 11 Posted March 11 This more or less lines up with what I've been told and seems to be in line with what Troy has said publicly, or at least doesn't contradict any of his broad-strokes figures. It's a little higher at the high end than what we've heard for the A10, but that could be the influence of top-half MWC teams or a program like Memphis from the American. (We will have more to say about NIL on an upcoming @Midtown Madness episode, once we have more time to address it.) Quote
HoosierPal Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Interesting. Missed this when it was first announced. Sources tell FOS the tournament organizers are in talks with: • Alabama • Duke • FAU • Houston • Kansas • Oregon • San Diego State • St. Joe's • Syracuse • Virginia. This is definitely a recruiting tool for the chosen teams. Would the potential of a payout entice Eric Reynolds to stay at St. Joe's, if they are selected? Quote
Cowboy II Posted March 26 Posted March 26 29 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Interesting. Missed this when it was first announced. Sources tell FOS the tournament organizers are in talks with: • Alabama • Duke • FAU • Houston • Kansas • Oregon • San Diego State • St. Joe's • Syracuse • Virginia. This is definitely a recruiting tool for the chosen teams. Would the potential of a payout entice Eric Reynolds to stay at St. Joe's, if they are selected? -so $9mil to the players, who is funding? Quote
Lord Elrond Posted March 26 Posted March 26 59 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -so $9mil to the players, who is funding? Interesting question. While we don’t know the actual numbers, I’m saying it’s a way for a school to pay some money to players without making them employees, I.e. launder the money and make it multiply. Example with made up numbers, but you can see how it would work. 9 Mil to players in NIL, say another 3 Mil to cover expenses and turn a profit for whoever is running it. So 12 Mil total cost. You are going to get TV money from the broadcast rights, sponsorship money for ads around the arena, and ticket sales, like you would any game. Say you get 8 Mil for all that. Where do you get the remaining 4 Mil? From the 8 teams each paying 500K to be in this. They get a great recruiting tool to bring in players, plus their 500K turns into over 1 Mil in money that pay their athletes (double your money in a 3 game tournament? Not bad) plus you didn’t pay the players directly, you laundered it through whoever runs the tournament. You can even use NIL dollars from your collective to cover, effectively doubling the money you spent. While the numbers are guesses, I bet it would look pretty good using real life numbers. Quote
HoosierPal Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Cowboy II said: -so $9mil to the players, who is funding? The tournament operator is guaranteeing that sponsors and other tournament partners will offer each school a total of $1 million in NIL money for participating. That money will be funneled to collectives, boosters, or other NIL entities, and the coaches and teams will be able to distribute that money however they see fit, as long as the money goes to current players. The winning team will be eligible to earn another $1 million, to be distributed in the same way. Taken from the linked article. Quote
Taj79 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Anybody see the Kendrick Perkins NILLY ads this past week? NILLY - Invest in the NIL Rights of Student Athletes There is a "target return" on your investment. It appears the minimum investment is $1,000 although they only list two athletes as being on the current roster ..... Chris Davis Jr a running back from Ole Miss and Jalen Lee, a basketball senior out of Orlando. Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted March 26 Posted March 26 56 minutes ago, Taj79 said: Anybody see the Kendrick Perkins NILLY ads this past week? NILLY - Invest in the NIL Rights of Student Athletes There is a "target return" on your investment. It appears the minimum investment is $1,000 although they only list two athletes as being on the current roster ..... Chris Davis Jr a running back from Ole Miss and Jalen Lee, a basketball senior out of Orlando. Interesting, I signed up for a seminar this week at a local venture capital firm on: The increasing value of media rights New entrants into sports broadcasting like Amazon The new era of college sports’ Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) Changing of consumer viewing preferences I'm curious as to what they're saying is important and the trends. Quote
cgeldmacher Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, HoosierPal said: Interesting. Missed this when it was first announced. Sources tell FOS the tournament organizers are in talks with: • Alabama • Duke • FAU • Houston • Kansas • Oregon • San Diego State • St. Joe's • Syracuse • Virginia. This is definitely a recruiting tool for the chosen teams. Would the potential of a payout entice Eric Reynolds to stay at St. Joe's, if they are selected? The St. Louis Sports Commission needs to get on this to jumpstart a St. Louis tournament at Enterprise. I've never understood why St. Louis does not have a tournament like this anyway with our central location. Get some sponsorship to kick in the money. Get TV rights sold. Frank Viverito, get on this!! Quote
cgeldmacher Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Cowboy II said: -so $9mil to the players, who is funding? I read the statement to mean $2M. $1M to be split among the 8 teams and $1M to winning team. Quote
willie Posted March 26 Posted March 26 26 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: The St. Louis Sports Commission needs to get on this to jumpstart a St. Louis tournament at Enterprise. I've never understood why St. Louis does not have a tournament like this anyway with our central location. Get some sponsorship to kick in the money. Get TV rights sold. Frank Viverito, get on this!! Frank has retired Quote
cgeldmacher Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Just now, willie said: Frank has retired He's still an advisor to the Commission and still has a lot of sway. Quote
Cowboy II Posted March 26 Posted March 26 43 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: I read the statement to mean $2M. $1M to be split among the 8 teams and $1M to winning team. -reading it again I do, too, thanks Quote
Slu let the dogs out? Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said: The St. Louis Sports Commission needs to get on this to jumpstart a St. Louis tournament at Enterprise. I've never understood why St. Louis does not have a tournament like this anyway with our central location. Get some sponsorship to kick in the money. Get TV rights sold. Frank Viverito, get on this!! Speaking of basketball tournaments in STL, whatever happened to the Coca Cola Shootout? I used to love attending that as a child. A lot of highly ranked national recruits played in that tournament... almaman 1 Quote
willie Posted March 26 Posted March 26 8 minutes ago, Slu let the dogs out? said: Speaking of basketball tournaments in STL, whatever happened to the Coca Cola Shootout? I used to love attending that as a child. A lot of highly ranked national recruits played in that tournament... Keith Picket {I think thats the name} retired and it died. Slu let the dogs out? 1 Quote
Slu let the dogs out? Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 minute ago, willie said: Keith Picket {I think thats the name} retired and it died. that's a rip-roaring shame. billiken_roy 1 Quote
billiken_roy Posted March 26 Posted March 26 agree. i always took a day off work to go see it. best high school display ever. Slu let the dogs out? 1 Quote
thetorch Posted March 28 Posted March 28 On 3/26/2024 at 2:03 PM, Slu let the dogs out? said: Speaking of basketball tournaments in STL, whatever happened to the Coca Cola Shootout? I used to love attending that as a child. A lot of highly ranked national recruits played in that tournament... The area still has a couple bigger one day or weekend games with out of town big names. Highland Shootout Ramey Showcase usually at Lindenwood or Cardinal Ritter. Slu let the dogs out? 1 Quote
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