The Wiz Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Nice win against LaS...Didn't change my numbers much because we did what we were supposed to do....We are still at A- ...trending at B+. For the poll watchers, the game was a positive development. The naysayers were shocked by the margin of victory. Some of the retweets are showing at the end of the LaS spread thread. These "experts" expected us to play at the same level we played last time against the Explorers....Quote after the game was ..."who would have thought"... They needed to come to the Billiken board to get the truth. The point is...some of the non believers vote in the polls. If the vote was today, we would have many more votes. But it is not...which brings us to Dayton.... Day is a B team (trending at B- )...A win over them (away) will make a difference in the models (including the NET) as well as the pollsters. The final non believers will throw in the towel and come over to the Bills side...or should I say return to the Bills side. A win by more than then a few points will jump our numbers a lot.. The trending model shows we have a chance to win by 7-10 pts with a good shooting game (a prepause slash) and continued excellent defense. As you can see by the spread , this will not be an easy task. This game was 1 of 3 I was concerned about in preseason ( the other 2 were Rich away on 1/29...postponed... and VCU 2/23) We have had 4 good games . It is time to step up our game...especially 3s, FTs and Rebs. Let's see what the report card looks like... .............................SLU.................................Day.......................................................SLU......................................Day .............................................OFF.....................................................................................................DEF............... PPG.........................A-....................................D.........................................................A-........................................B FG%.........................A.....................................A-........................................................A.........................................C+ 3Pt%........................B......................................B........................................................C+........................................B+ FT%.........................C....... ..............................B-....................................................................................................... Reb.........................B+....................................D-........................................................A...........................................B- OFF Rebs = total rebs...DEF Rebs = opp reb UP....Offense...FG% ..........Defense .......3P% ( by a full letter) Down...Offense...FT%...........Defense.......Reb Top 100 ITN (In The Nation) PPG...Perkins...80th...up Assts...Collins...8th ...up Rebs...Goodwin....12th....up (by 9) FT%...Perkins...71st...up Stls......Goodwin...53rd....up Double Double....Goodwin...9th ...dn Day PPG.....Crutcher....52nd Assts....Crutcher....59th Reb .....Tshimango...83rd Injuries Yuri Collins..........G ................Ques...ankle...2/16/21..............It is unclear whether he will he play on Fri. Sissoko................C.................Ques....undisclosed ailment... He has missed the last 4 games with an unspecified ailment...status is in question for Fri. If Sissoko doesn't play...that should help us on Rebs...he was good for 6 last time...we lost the reb battle by 3....Even if he plays we should still win the reb stat... Report card looking good on both sides ...Off & Def...we need to improve a little on FTs...but that will come. Day is a team led by Crutcher...he leads in PPG, Assts, FG% and Steals. He is 2nd on 3P shooting. Watson is their 3P leader. At the beginning of conf play Watson shot 50% against Duq (4 of 8 ) In the return match , Duq put somebody on him and he went 0-10. Without that 2nd Duq game, he would be ranked 44th ITN. WWN2D2W...48/37/73.......Crutcher and Watson are their go to guys...Hold them to a combined total of 27 pts. Hold Watson to two 3PM. Tshimango is their reb guy ...hold him to 7...win the reb battle by 6...We are now a B+ team in TOs....win the TO duel by 3. Bottom line....We need to step it up a notch this game....Bring our A game (or at least our A- game) A win will bring us close to where we were on Xmas eve. T'was the night before greatness....Beat Day and we will be flying high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thought as winners of 4 straight (2 blowouts) we’d be trending better than B+ but I suppose winning will take care of this. We’re gonna get a pissed off Dayton on Friday after their debacle at Rhody. As someone mentioned earlier, play like we have been and it won’t matter. Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenbooster Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fraz said: Thought as winners of 4 straight (2 blowouts) we’d be trending better than B+ but I suppose winning will take care of this. We’re gonna get a pissed off Dayton on Friday after their debacle at Rhody. As someone mentioned earlier, play like we have been and it won’t matter. Go Bills! When was the last time we beat Dayton in Dayton? mhg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Billikenbooster said: When was the last time we beat Dayton in Dayton? mhg I don’t think we’ve won at their place since 2013-2014 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydayzedandconfused Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Gibson has definitely stepped up his game. If he shows up I think we have a good chance if everyone does their part. Yuri off the floor seems to propel Goodwin as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydayzedandconfused Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Glorydayzedandconfused said: Gibson has definitely stepped up his game. If he shows up I think we have a good chance if everyone does their part. Yuri off the floor seems to propel Goodwin as well. And I guess A10 talk has a great article that just came out about Goodwin stepping up in Yuri's absence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, NH said: I don’t think we’ve won at their place since 2013-2014 team. Pretty sure we beat them there during Goodwin's freshman year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 -if we play our game we win, by a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, SShoe said: Pretty sure we beat them there during Goodwin's freshman year. Edit - nope, just checked. We actually choked down the stretch of that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Billikenbooster said: When was the last time we beat Dayton in Dayton? mhg Jan 11 ,2014...67-59 Dayton is the most difficult place to play as an away team in the A-10...and is the 49th most difficult away venue in the nation among D1 schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Double Double....Goodwin...9th ...dn How is it possible that Goodwin got a double-double in the LaSalle win, but went down? Did some other team play twice in between our Ws over Fordham & LaSalle and one of their players got double-doubles in both games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Jan 11 ,2014...67-59 Dayton is the most difficult place to play as an away team in the A-10...and is the 49th most difficult away venue in the nation among D1 schools. -not to look ahead, but for us it has been the Siegel Center, we will conquer that one next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 We lost to Dayton to end the 2014 regular season, kicking off a 7-game losing streak to them that was snapped in 2018. We're 3-5 since then. The all-time series is 37-28 in UD's favor. We lost there by 1 in 2009 and proceeded to win 7 of the next 9 against them, including ruining their Senior Day in 2010 and 2011. This will be weird for me because I've seen every SLU game at Dayton since 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, RUBillsFan said: How is it possible that Goodwin got a double-double in the LaSalle win, but went down? Did some other team play twice in between our Ws over Fordham & LaSalle and one of their players got double-doubles in both games? I noticed that too... It could be the scenario you described or it could be a reporting error by a school....ie there could have been a typo or a team rebound assigned to a player that gave him another double double....or the NCAA could have just left someone out. The double double data is reported by the NCAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -not to look ahead, but for us it has been the Siegel Center, we will conquer that one next week You are correct...we have never won there....0-6.... 4th most difficult place to play I would like to make a correction to an above post....Dayton is the 2nd most difficult place to play in the A-10 ...1st place goes to GW...29th in the nation ...btw...the Fetz is #3 in the A10 So it looks like this... GW Day The Fetz VCU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocktoweraccords2004 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: You are correct...we have never won there....0-6.... 4th most difficult place to play I would like to make a correction to an above post....Dayton is the 2nd most difficult place to play in the A-10 ...1st place goes to GW...29th in the nation ...btw...the Fetz is #3 in the A10 So it looks like this... GW Day The Fetz VCU What about with covid? Limited attendance degrades home field advantage minus the travel pains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Fraz said: We’re gonna get a pissed off Dayton on Friday after their debacle at Rhody. As someone mentioned earlier, play like we have been and it won’t matter. SVU was coming off a blowout loss when we played last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Clocktoweraccords2004 said: What about with covid? Limited attendance degrades home field advantage minus the travel pains And that's just it....Home field advantage as it relates to crowds is not the major factor....Difficulty of travel for the visitors has made up for any lost advantage of missing home crowds. The most difficult factor this year has been the actual covid factor itself...the effect it has on players after they come back and for how long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Jan 11 ,2014...67-59 Dayton is the most difficult place to play as an away team in the A-10...and is the 49th most difficult away venue in the nation among D1 schools. With a full house. But the venue will have few fans this time around. Plus for the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A10Ref Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I believe that we will win... and I believe, if we play defense, it could be a rout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Pistol said: We lost to Dayton to end the 2014 regular season, kicking off a 7-game losing streak to them that was snapped in 2018. We're 3-5 since then. The all-time series is 37-28 in UD's favor. We lost there by 1 in 2009 and proceeded to win 7 of the next 9 against them, including ruining their Senior Day in 2010 and 2011. This will be weird for me because I've seen every SLU game at Dayton since 2008. -ah, you get to join the crowd in missing in-person games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I really hope that Ford has something special for Crutcher. If we just try to guard him 1 on 1 and go under screens then that is coaching malpractice. He is the only guy that can beat us. We need to deny him the ball and then double on the catch. We wont, but we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Fraz said: Thought as winners of 4 straight (2 blowouts) we’d be trending better than B+ but I suppose winning will take care of this. We’re gonna get a pissed off Dayton on Friday after their debacle at Rhody. As someone mentioned earlier, play like we have been and it won’t matter. Go Bills! How long have we been trending to B+? We have been beating spreads, haven’t we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 As noted in the A10 thread, Rodney Chatman has returned to the Dayton lineup after thumb ligament surgery. He is a much better court presence than Elijah Weaver right now. His return makes the Dayton bench stronger and deeper. Last night, URI ‘allowed’ Zimi Nwokeji to go off for 29 points. He had his career high of 12 at half. Nwokeji is a decent player—-I actually think he’s better than Amzil. But he’s no 30 PPG stud. Mahkel Mitchell is no defender, that’s for sure. Neither is my favorite 4-star bust, Jermaine Harris. So Nwokeji roamed unchecked all night while URI concentrated on Crutcher. Crutcher will find an open man. Nothing has changed for Dayton. Crutcher is all it. You have to force Watson to put the ball on the floor. He will kill you from half court with catch-n-shoot routines. Weaver remains out of control. Amzil is fading. Tishymanga is immobile and stationary. I don’t think Sissoko is hurt but rather has decided to transfer. Both Blakney and Brea have added nothing over the course of the year. So once again it comes down to Crutcher and Watson. I expect the game to be as tight as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewsorlose Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Looking back at the stats, Dayton outscored us by 8 at the line, drew 23 fouls while committing 15, and outrebounded us by 2. We're a more physical team that didn't play like it. I expect Thatch to play more. I hope Jacobs is mended and breaks out. Crutcher, granted, destroyed us in last game, but we have the better player in Goodwin. He is a good passer and Dayton has shooters. I hope our rotations are better. Bottom line, they lost to URI last night, they're 7-6 in league. Bills need to play well, but they're a fringe top 100 team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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