WVBilliken Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Looking at the roster for next season is a bit scary. The front court is awesome and could be scary good. The back court ...... well it is obvious that a lot of help is needed. It could be scary bad. PG ----- Goodwin (and right now he is clearly more of a combo guard) SG ----- Thatch SF ----- Bess, Johnson, Pearson (sure, Bess might be a SG, if we have a true top notch point guard, but not there now) PF ----- Gordon, French, Foreman C ----- Santos, Welmer (not sure where to put Welmer, but assume he remains given the roster openings) So Ford and his coaches have a lot of work to do. A JC and high school PG seems to be the obvious critical need. Then for the 3rd spot a 3 pt shooter and if not that, maybe the best available transfer. But my, this could be an NCAA team if a top notch PG or two could be brought in this Spring, preferrably at least one that can both handle the rock and hit the three consistently. Not too much to ask .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 WV, a question for you. Why do you have French as a PF? Although there are questions about positions nowadays, French and Foreman were both clearly in the 4/5 slots. Given that, it was French who was the man in the middle, blocking shots and making short hooks in the paint. If you want to keep Welmer in your projection (a point I disagree with) then he and French need to be swapped position wise. Otherwise, I like your analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Seems to be his natural position. Was listed as a PF by all the recruiting services. Also, hoping Santos is a stud. Given all that, it is clear SLU could start 3 next year who are traditionally PFs ...... Gordon, French and Foreman. Seems Gordon can hit the mid range shot. And Welmer played the center slot last season but he could play the 3, 4 or 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Clearly we need guards. Guards are easier to find then front line players this late. This is not an impossible situation for Ford. Be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Clearly we need guards. Guards are easier to find then front line players this late. This is not an impossible situation for Ford. Be patient. RT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Does anyone know if Bishop is gone? almaman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 We need 2+ guards and are stacked at forward. Even though we’re light at Guard we have the future best player in SLU history at point guard so that’s a good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, AnkielBreakers said: Does anyone know if Bishop is gone? All the players are no longer enrolled but we don't know for sure that he's not coming back. He could have gotten his suspension reduced I guess. Cusumano says he's gone though and Durando has basically quit trying to get info so we don't know for sure but it seems like he's likely gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, slufan13 said: All the players are no longer enrolled but we don't know for sure that he's not coming back. He could have gotten his suspension reduced I guess. Cusumano says he's gone though and Durando has basically quit trying to get info so we don't know for sure but it seems like he's likely gone. He's still got a pic of him in SLU gear as his profile pic, and still says SLU basketball #11 in his bio so maybe he's hoping he can come back next fall or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOne Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 18 hours ago, AnkielBreakers said: Does anyone know if Bishop is gone? I can confirm he is indeed gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 8:39 PM, WVBilliken said: Looking at the roster for next season is a bit scary. The front court is awesome and could be scary good. The back court ...... well it is obvious that a lot of help is needed. It could be scary bad. PG ----- Goodwin (and right now he is clearly more of a combo guard) SG ----- Thatch SF ----- Bess, Johnson, Pearson (sure, Bess might be a SG, if we have a true top notch point guard, but not there now) PF ----- Gordon, French, Foreman C ----- Santos, Welmer (not sure where to put Welmer, but assume he remains given the roster openings) So Ford and his coaches have a lot of work to do. A JC and high school PG seems to be the obvious critical need. Then for the 3rd spot a 3 pt shooter and if not that, maybe the best available transfer. But my, this could be an NCAA team if a top notch PG or two could be brought in this Spring, preferrably at least one that can both handle the rock and hit the three consistently. Not too much to ask .......... I think is the right approach. A 5th year transfer would also be welcome. Really, if we just bring in 1 impact perimeter player to replace Roby we would fine, as I think Thatch and Pearson will be more than sufficient off the bench in year 1. If Welmer can't return, I'd like to see the staff go after another transfer that would sit for a year, preferably a big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, SShoe said: I think is the right approach. A 5th year transfer would also be welcome. Really, if we just bring in 1 impact perimeter player to replace Roby we would fine, as I think Thatch and Pearson will be more than sufficient off the bench in year 1. If Welmer can't return, I'd like to see the staff go after another transfer that would sit for a year, preferably a big. Coach will have a large task putting together a cohesive unit on the floor next season. Assume Bess, Foreman, French, Goodwin, and Johnson all return. That means 8 players who didn't see game action this season will be added to the mix. Sure Santos has practiced and Welmer had last year in Ford's system, but neither practiced with the first unit. Coach will need to wear his hard hat next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Coach will have a large task putting together a cohesive unit on the floor next season. Assume Bess, Foreman, French, Goodwin, and Johnson all return. That means 8 players who didn't see game action this season will be added to the mix. Sure Santos has practiced and Welmer had last year in Ford's system, but neither practiced with the first unit. Coach will need to wear his hard hat next season. What are you talking about? He put a cohesive unit on the floor this season with 8 players! Add Thatch, gordon and Pearson to our guard/forward core replacing Roby and Hines. We will be in fine shape without adding any grad or juco transfers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Coach will have a large task putting together a cohesive unit on the floor next season. Assume Bess, Foreman, French, Goodwin, and Johnson all return. That means 8 players who didn't see game action this season will be added to the mix. Sure Santos has practiced and Welmer had last year in Ford's system, but neither practiced with the first unit. Coach will need to wear his hard hat next season. We return a pretty strong nucleus, much better than the current top two teams in the league. URI figures to take a big step back after losing their top four scorers - in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hurley decides this would be a good time to bolt if he gets the chance. And Bona-welding loses their two-man team. Their creepy coach, however, is not likely to escape. He's stuck in Olean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, ACE said: We return a pretty strong nucleus, much better than the current top two teams in the league. URI figures to take a big step back after losing their top four scorers - in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hurley decides this would be a good time to bolt if he gets the chance. And Bona-welding loses their two-man team. Their creepy coach, however, is not likely to escape. He's stuck in Olean. I agree with you on Hurley. Bolt while you are on top. Next year Rhody will be bottom half. We have a strong nucleus, but Coach will be molding 8 new bodies into the mix. It's not easy. This team took a while to gel with significant early hiccups against Detroit, Western and Houston. I give a pass on Providence and Butler's whoopings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: What are you talking about? He put a cohesive unit on the floor this season with 8 players! Add Thatch, gordon and Pearson to our guard/forward core replacing Roby and Hines. We will be in fine shape without adding any grad or juco transfers To be fair, it was a work in progress. Otherwise, I think it will be more than fine since the core of this year's team will still be intact and none of the incoming players will need to be immediate stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: I agree with you on Hurley. Bolt while you are on top. Next year Rhody will be bottom half. We have a strong nucleus, but Coach will be molding 8 new bodies into the mix. It's not easy. This team took a while to gel with significant early hiccups against Detroit, Western and Houston. I give a pass on Providence and Butler's whoopings. -this season we never had some of the "bodies" to play in games, I trust CFord's recruiting to get us the best he can -hopefully the "bodies" are available all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 How many more years to a summer trip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP HUMPS Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Basketbill said: How many more years to a summer trip? 2 I believe. Bahamas should of been 2015-2016 team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 hours ago, billikenfan05 said: What are you talking about? He put a cohesive unit on the floor this season with 8 players! Add Thatch, gordon and Pearson to our guard/forward core replacing Roby and Hines. We will be in fine shape without adding any grad or juco transfers Yes, let’s not waste money on any more recruiting for 2018. Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, VeniceMenace said: Yes, let’s not waste money on any more recruiting for 2018. Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that? Thats not what I meant and I’m sure you know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, billikenfan05 said: Thats not what I meant and I’m sure you know that. Sorry, my bad then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, VeniceMenace said: Sorry, my bad then I meant that even before we add any juco or grads we’ll be top tier in the league. 👍🏻 VeniceMenace likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, billikenfan05 said: I meant that even before we add any juco or grads we’ll be top tier in the league. 👍🏻 I hope so and don’t disagree but am also worried about how thin we are on shooting/ballhandling. I don’t think this years team would be THAT much better if you replaced Hines and Roby with the incoming recruits. Obviously the current players should also improve but I can see the feeling that we absolutely need to add a guard or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I meant that even before we add any juco or grads we’ll be top tier in the league. 👍🏻 Agreed & only eight months to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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