WestCoastBilliken Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, Westy03 said: Adonys henriquez isn't on the bench tonight. Hopefully there is nothing to that Anyone know why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Final 66-55, FG 33%, 3 pointers 27%, FT 59%, 14 turnovers, Crawford 3-12 FG 1-4 FT, Hines 2-9 FG, 4 rebounds, 4 assists 3 turnovers. Looking forward to seeing Bishop back and Hines playing 4 to 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Just now, WestCoastBilliken said: Anyone know why??? Home for the holidays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Another one down the tubes, we lost. Crawford had a really poor night in terms of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Crawford should be benched until he is healthy or has his head right. Start Zeke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Billiken Rich said: Crawford should be benched until he is healthy or has his head right. Start Zeke. Crawford shot 4/5 from 3 against SIUE Zeke and Crawford should be on the court together. The inexplicable Neufeld appearances need to stop. That kid does not need to get minutes, he needs to have good luck in his future endeavors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Well the OOC part of the schedule is now down the tubes. Now the hard part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The problem with benching Crawford, is who takes over his spot? We have a very limited bench. Crawford's scoring is inconsistent to say the least. In this last game against Winthrop he managed 3 out of 12 attempts at a FG, 0 out of 5 attempts at a 3 pt., and 1-4 FT attempts. He did manage to get 5 rebounds but produced nothing else except for 2 PF and 1 TO in the 27 min he played last night. Moore, by the way played 29 minutes last night and Johnson played 25 minutes, Hines played 30 minutes and contributed more than Crawford. Neither Agbeko nor Welmer contributed much last night. Who is there to replace Crawford or Agbeko or Welmer when they are not producing good results in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The seniors have really been disappointing so far and that has been the biggest issue of all the other issues this team has. Last nights game was there to win and if the seniors contributed very little. Roby played with a lot of heart but is not talented enough to carry the team. It was good to see Moore and Johnson out there for a lot of minutes and I hope it continues. Old Guy is right there is no one to take over for Crawford and I think Mike played with a lot of heart out there he just cannot shoot and more disturbing is missing too many free throws. Even though Welmer is in a shooting funk play him more this is a lost season anyway. Just having some fun Soderball, have you noticed you broke me of mentioning playing Neufeld, LOL. Merry Christmas everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 For us to win everybody has to produce consistently. Crawford scoring 15 one night then 7 another or 4 is not going to cut it. Same goes for Roby - decent game tonight but you can not be up and down from game to game - same goes for Reggie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Guys Merry Christmas and all the best to all of you and yours.. We knew this year was not going to be a good one, and it is not. At the very least and for whatever it may be worth it to you Moore and Johnson are improving steadily. Roby is doing OK, and Welmer is fine despite his inconsistency. I like Bishop, and I hope he makes a difference in the Rhode Island game, but that game will most likely be a loss as well. All the best and happy thoughts for 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 For the non-haters who might care, Mike Crawford played in his 100th Billiken game last night. He also went over 2000 minutes in his career. Salute to you, Mr. Crawford. Elliott Welmer has tied Soderball favorite Brett Thompson for 10th on Freshman blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It is not a matter of hate HoosierPal, it is a matter of injury. Crawford has courage and desire, but he just cannot score consistently. About the 2000 minutes he has played, just try to imagine how many of those minutes were played with significant pain. He is indeed a good guy who deserves respect for what he has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 We foul too much. that's my only takeaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 I didn't think that Neufeld played poorly when he was in last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I'm sincerely not hating on Crawford. He just isn't right but I don't question his heart. Those missed free throws mostly off the front of the rim say the kid maybe needs a rest or to get his head right or something. This season is lost. Give him a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 34 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: I didn't think that Neufeld played poorly when he was in last night. Till last night, I can't remember the last time I thought there was a glimmer of hope for Neufeld. It still seems like we have three beanpole centers none of whom can play interior defense. How many of those projects can one team have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Neufeld had 2 moments where he looked like maybe he could be something but it was not to be - he quickly reverted to his old ability and that was that. I am not sure Crawford's injury is even the issue anymore - I know some want to give him a pass because of what they think is why he is playing so inconsistently. I have watched him take off and sail to dunk the ball several times lately - if his leg was still a problem then he would not even attempt to do something like that. I have no answer as to why his FT shooting has regressed - I guess I would just say it is a head thing. As far as his 3 pt shooting - how do you go 5-7 the game before and then 3-12 or something like that from the floor last night - it is not an injury thing in my opinion anymore it may just be a head thing. Last night he got stuffed several times right under the basket on drives - speed was never his thing but he clearly was frustrated with his inability to get the lay up away. As far as he has played in pain over the year thing - that has nothing to do with the price of eggs now. He has gotten to play in the games and gotten the minutes on the floor not because he is being successful all the time but because the last 3 years there has not been anybody else to take his place - it is a result of poor recruiting by Crews not his exceptional play. He is an avg role player who when asked to lead the team is being asked to do something unfairly so I will say - he tries hard and good for him but D1 basketball does not give out participation trophies. He is who he is and trying to make him out to be what he is not is fruitless and as I said unfair to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 My assessment of this team is that it requires a brand new starting 5 with significantly upgraded athleticism and skill at all positions. Hmm. I also believe Welmer, Zeke, and Johnson have futures as role players if they choose to accept them. Those are my deep and novel holiday insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 -what is the thought in the band to play 'Another One Bites the Dust' when we are losing by 10 with 1.43 remaining and one of their players commits their 5th foul? just trying to understand so perhaps I can join the effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 What has happened to Reggie-missing in action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 52 minutes ago, Cowboy said: -what is the thought in the band to play 'Another One Bites the Dust' when we are losing by 10 with 1.43 remaining and one of their players commits their 5th foul? just trying to understand so perhaps I can join the effort I think that's simply standard practice after 5 fouls, much the same as the Jaws theme after 4 fouls. What I was wondering was why Crawford didn't simply hold the ball at the end, which I think is proper sportsmanship. As it happened, he got his jock handed to him in front of everyone...twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 18 hours ago, VeniceMenace said: Home for the holidays? ya he left thursday morning to fly back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, bonwich said: What I was wondering was why Crawford didn't simply hold the ball at the end, which I think is proper sportsmanship. As it happened, he got his jock handed to him in front of everyone...twice. Ford was encouraging him. I thought the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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