Pistol Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 8 hours ago, TheChosenOne said: @Pistolmight be able to provide us with a solid breakdown of Austin having watched him at X. Yeah, looks like Austin is at his second destination that didn't end up being a great fit for him. He actually signed with Cuonzo Martin and Tennessee first but got out of his LOI after the coaching change when he went to Xavier. Then he had the misfortune of Edmond Sumner immediately establishing himself as a star, so he really only played decent minutes when Sumner was injured. During those periods, I thought he was a really solid PG, actually. He's one of those guys who doesn't pop off the stat sheet but is just steady and solid and gives you good minutes. A lot of Xavier fans thought he was too impatient by leaving, and Sumner ended up going pro, but he had made up his mind to leave by then. Maybe he was also concerned about Goodin in the glass behind him, but there were more minutes to be had for him regardless. He definitely never played up to his potential - I thought he was quite good in HS and AAU - but he just hasn't been a good fit anywhere yet and now has been recruited over. He's never been known as a big-time offensive threat; he's more of just a steady offensive player and stronger defender. He doesn't shoot threes at all. He's unselfish, and comfortable playing uptempo or at a slower pace. I wish I had more of a chance to see him when he was at XU, but he just wasn't on display enough. Most of what I can remember is that I liked him when he played and wished he'd stayed. He offers depth and experience, and I think he'd be a good one-year plug for us. He hasn't had a chance to assert himself at either of his schools, and he'd end up in a situation his senior year where he has a chance to both win and get some solid minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Do you hold a spot open to wait to see how the whole FBI thing plays out? Could be a ton of players looking to commit somewhere else or to transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, brianstl said: Do you hold a spot open to wait to see how the whole FBI thing plays out? Could be a ton of players looking to commit somewhere else or to transfer. I think that’s a real possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, brianstl said: Do you hold a spot open to wait to see how the whole FBI thing plays out? Could be a ton of players looking to commit somewhere else or to transfer. We have 3, probably 4 scholarships to give and Ford already indicated he might carry one over, so we should have capacity regardless of when and how this thing plays out. But yeah, anything is possible at this point. Another reason I like Austin as the possible SEC PG transfer for next season is that while we've been saying all along that we need a PG and a shooter, Ford has promised Goodwin the reins at PG as long as he's here, so it makes sense to have a guy who's a solid one-year presence this upcoming season instead of an incoming HS player who might get restless playing behind Goodwin for a few years. VeniceMenace and Zink like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Pistol said: Yeah, looks like Austin is at his second destination that didn't end up being a great fit for him. He actually signed with Cuonzo Martin and Tennessee first but got out of his LOI after the coaching change when he went to Xavier. Then he had the misfortune of Edmond Sumner immediately establishing himself as a star, so he really only played decent minutes when Sumner was injured. During those periods, I thought he was a really solid PG, actually. He's one of those guys who doesn't pop off the stat sheet but is just steady and solid and gives you good minutes. A lot of Xavier fans thought he was too impatient by leaving, and Sumner ended up going pro, but he had made up his mind to leave by then. Maybe he was also concerned about Goodin in the glass behind him, but there were more minutes to be had for him regardless. He definitely never played up to his potential - I thought he was quite good in HS and AAU - but he just hasn't been a good fit anywhere yet and now has been recruited over. He's never been known as a big-time offensive threat; he's more of just a steady offensive player and stronger defender. He doesn't shoot threes at all. He's unselfish, and comfortable playing uptempo or at a slower pace. I wish I had more of a chance to see him when he was at XU, but he just wasn't on display enough. Most of what I can remember is that I liked him when he played and wished he'd stayed. He offers depth and experience, and I think he'd be a good one-year plug for us. He hasn't had a chance to assert himself at either of his schools, and he'd end up in a situation his senior year where he has a chance to both win and get some solid minutes. I agree with all of this. I think Austin would be a great addition for next year. Gattlin, Austin, and Jacobs would be the ideal class make up too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 hours ago, TheChosenOne said: They do, 6 listed with 3 in their rotation. Yaya is really raw, but has impressive measurables already (6'9, 210). I heard about Yaya this summer and would note that he was working out with Matt Baniak. I saw them play Chaminade and thought the freshmen point guards, Jeremiah Walker and Rico Barfield (apparently his best game on the season), looked solid as did Yaya. DeSmet has some impressive athletes coming up thru the ranks, oops, I meant to say DeSmet sucks. Speak of the devil. I think that Yaya kid is sitting in front of me at the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, DeSmetBilliken said: Speak of the devil. I think that Yaya kid is sitting in front of me at the game. He's a 2021 kid? Sounds like the interest list for that year is getting its first name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Pistol said: Yeah, looks like Austin is at his second destination that didn't end up being a great fit for him. He actually signed with Cuonzo Martin and Tennessee first but got out of his LOI after the coaching change when he went to Xavier. Then he had the misfortune of Edmond Sumner immediately establishing himself as a star, so he really only played decent minutes when Sumner was injured. During those periods, I thought he was a really solid PG, actually. He's one of those guys who doesn't pop off the stat sheet but is just steady and solid and gives you good minutes. A lot of Xavier fans thought he was too impatient by leaving, and Sumner ended up going pro, but he had made up his mind to leave by then. Maybe he was also concerned about Goodin in the glass behind him, but there were more minutes to be had for him regardless. He definitely never played up to his potential - I thought he was quite good in HS and AAU - but he just hasn't been a good fit anywhere yet and now has been recruited over. He's never been known as a big-time offensive threat; he's more of just a steady offensive player and stronger defender. He doesn't shoot threes at all. He's unselfish, and comfortable playing uptempo or at a slower pace. I wish I had more of a chance to see him when he was at XU, but he just wasn't on display enough. Most of what I can remember is that I liked him when he played and wished he'd stayed. He offers depth and experience, and I think he'd be a good one-year plug for us. He hasn't had a chance to assert himself at either of his schools, and he'd end up in a situation his senior year where he has a chance to both win and get some solid minutes. Agreed. Based on this insight, could see LA being a solid role player off the bench...and fortunately we’ll have a lot of offensive threats he can pass to....whereas he doesn’t have that luxury at Vandy vs SEC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 So when do we hear about Jacobs committing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Pistol said: He's a 2021 kid? Sounds like the interest list for that year is getting its first name... To clarify, he may have just been there with a friend. Didn’t go down to the court post-game. Still might be a name to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillIkenFan_Dan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Sorry haven’t been really paying attention, but was is the full name of the Jacobs kid everyone is talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Demarius Jacobs https://247sports.com/Player/Demarius-Jacobs-46041333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, TRN said: Demarius Jacobs https://247sports.com/Player/Demarius-Jacobs-46041333 Yes, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, RiseAndGrind said: Yes, please. Yep. Tell the young man about our guard need and Goodwin with Thatch. 💯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Hoping for a commitment from Jacobs today. RiseAndGrind likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 22 hours ago, TheOne said: Yes, currently playing. And has been discussed on this board before, though not very recently. Larry Austin Jr is a fourth year junior at Vanderbilt. Buried behind Saben Lee, Payton Willis and incoming McD AA Darius Garland. Would be a welcome addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 ^didnt realize this news had already broke. Thought I was clever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 hours ago, TRN said: Yep. Tell the young man about our guard need and Goodwin with Thatch. 💯 Interesting Thatch is higher rated nationally but Jacobs has what many would consider “better” offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, NH said: Larry Austin Jr is a fourth year junior at Vanderbilt. Buried behind Saben Lee, Payton Willis and incoming McD AA Darius Garland. Would be a welcome addition Hoping he is a backup plan. Really? SLU wants a guy buried on the depth chart on an 11 - 18 team???? Gotta be better options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVBilliken Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Interesting Thatch is higher rated nationally but Jacobs has what many would consider “better” offers. Thatch is signed and was a solid commit for a long time before that ... Jacobs is not signed and is undecided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChangeOfPace Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Interesting Thatch is higher rated nationally but Jacobs has what many would consider “better” offers. It is all about timing. Thatch’s offers were about to start rolling in when he committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, WVBilliken said: Hoping he is a backup plan. Really? SLU wants a guy buried on the depth chart on an 11 - 18 team???? Gotta be better options. Vandy is 11-18 but still no. 87 on KenPom, not a terrible team. He’s buried because Vandy has a terrific freshman guard in Saben Lee and an even better one coming in next year in Garland. We need ballhandlers and Larry Austin is that; I’d take him in a heartbeat. Zink and TRN like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 22 hours ago, bauman said: My post was referring to Hines. With regard to Austin let's also remember that he was in a strange situation this year since he was probably recruited to Vandy by a different Head Coach--Stallings-- than who is there now. Believe he was recruited by Drew. Good ball handler and very good defender. Otherwise not much to write home about but we could use that skill set for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, NH said: Believe he was recruited by Drew. Good ball handler and very good defender. Otherwise not much to write home about but we could use that skill set for sure With what we are losing (Roby, Hines, and Graves (never had)) and have coming in, a capable backup point guard is a clear need. Getting a kid who only ties up a scholarship for one year and a guy Tate is familiar with seems like a really nice fit at this point. We have a strong core, so adding a one year stop gap to handle the point at times seems pretty ideal. I think point guard becomes a top positional priority for 2019. It is interesting because we are kind of building a roster that is the opposite of where the game is going, but I love it and think it can really work and is already working despite no bench. Billiken Rich and MusicCityBilliken like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLURadioBoy Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Got him! DeSmetBilliken, RiseAndGrind and MattyMo213 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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