STL Hoops Insider Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 The kids are playing AAU to draw this attention. It's not stressing them out, this is why they do it. No, a kid probably doesn't have to block a number. If one of these kids was being coerced into selling drugs or joining a gang everyday by killers, , you would say they had a choice and chose to do the wrong thing, but you think a coach on the phone is too much pressure? Stop it. You're not giving these kids enough credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Yes if that's an issue sure school can help. Seems like if it is an issue we wouldn't have offered. Certainly one of the most intriguing kids we've had involved with program. Plays at private school freshman year and is ranked as one of the top 10 prospects his year in the country. Can only play second semester at his new public school where he joins another high ranked player and they take the state title. Meanwhile his rankings continue a slow decline. Statesmen should be fun to follow this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Per vtime playing aau basketball is just the same as selling drugs. Kids, make good choices. Actually I think aau ball is just about that evil. So I guess vtime isn't that far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, almaman said: Yes if that's an issue sure school can help. Seems like if it is an issue we wouldn't have offered. Certainly one of the most intriguing kids we've had involved with program. Plays at private school freshman year and is ranked as one of the top 10 prospects his year in the country. Can only play second semester at his new public school where he joins another high ranked player and they take the state title. Meanwhile his rankings continue a slow decline. Statesmen should be fun to follow this year. Yeah. They have a tough schedule. Transfer from Maplewood will help them. Look forward to catching a few games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Damn they got a star type joining 2 studs already there? Are they going to get any national exposer espy etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Per vtime playing aau basketball is just the same as selling drugs. Kids, make good choices. Actually I think aau ball is just about that evil. So I guess vtime isn't that far off. Who is Vtime? And these kids aren't babies. Some of these kids have babies entering college. There's more pressure coming from parents and bandwagoners than from college coaches. Recruiting is a two way street requiring teo somewhat interested parties. When Crews was recruiting Miles Reynolds at Whitney Young, i don't think Okafor was looking for him after the game and spent his time talking to the high major coaches. You can only recruit kids that want you to recruit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 hours ago, MattyMo213 said: I remember a while back ford was asked about Martin being hired and how that will affect recruiting and he said that there is plenty of talent in the stl area to go around and he's fine not getting all the top guys every year. To me it seems like cuonzo is just a greedy scumbag who is afraid of slu being more relevant than mizzou and as such, he rejects this "share the wealth" attitude Ford is fine with and wants it all for himself Share the what??? No no no no, that's not how you recruit at all. You get as many good players as you can, you don't share. Duke and UNC don't share with NC State and Wake Forest. That's absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Coach314 said: Gordon can be a handful. I thought he was getting better in the classroom tho. I hope so Good move for a coach to bad mouth kids anonymously. I think we can drop this. Gordon is a very solid commitment. Quit being baited by fake coaches and fake SLU fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, thetorch said: Good move for a coach to bad mouth kids anonymously. I think we can drop this. Gordon is a very solid commitment. Quit being baited by fake coaches and fake SLU fans. Agree. Gordon is a solid recruit and he hasn't said anything yet about his commitment, all just people reading into things. Either way, Ford will find talent to fill the scholarships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Share the what??? No no no no, that's not how you recruit at all. You get as many good players as you can, you don't share. Duke and UNC don't share with NC State and Wake Forest. That's absurd. now you're putting words in my mouth. I was putting what Ford said in the interview into shorter terms about how he won't be upset if Martin sometimes gets better area guys than us. If you wanna call Ford's recruiting "absurd" I suggest you take it up with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 As long as Gordon's twitter account's first item is him in a Billiken uniform under the Arch, I'm not going to worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, almaman said: Damn they got a star type joining 2 studs already there? Are they going to get any national exposer espy etc.? They are playing a National Schedule. Webster Groves and Vashon ended the year Nationally ranked. Webster Groves will play in Florida. Also in the Tournament of Champions in Springfield, MO. That tournament will be on ESPN i believe. They also play Vashon again at Webster Groves. Edited September 5, 2017 by Coach314 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 thnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyMo213 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Up to three "experts" on 247 have picked Watson to Mizzou now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 13 hours ago, Westy03 said: I could be wrong but wasn't it "coach" who said Goodwin was rethinking of his commitment to SLU after he signed his LOI? Sure seems plugged into the 2017 kids Yes it was. #neverforget #heisaspumactroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 10 hours ago, Coach314 said: They are playing a National Schedule. Webster Groves and Vashon ended the year Nationally ranked. Webster Groves will play in Florida. Also in the Tournament of Champions in Springfield, MO. That tournament will be on ESPN i believe. They also play Vashon again at Webster Groves. 3 national tournaments, 3 regional tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 It would be hard to turn down Ohio State in favor of Mizzou. Ohio State has a great campus, in a large metro area, has a great tradition in athletics and basketball, and is in the 2nd best basketball conference in the land. And its only 6 1/2 hours from St Louis. Mizzou has a weird dumpy campus, has gone through scandal after scandal, has no real tradition of success in any sport, and is in a 2nd tier basketball conference. and it is still 2 hours away from St Louis. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Eric Bossi still thinks it's between SLU and Mizzou for Watson. Here is what he said: Link Right now, I see this is a two-horse race between Missouri and Saint Louis. Travis Fordhas done an outstanding job of locking down local talent since taking over at SLU so he is not to be underestimated here and if this is truly about being closest to home, then the Billikens will be hard to beat. However, if Cuonzo Martin and the Tigers can get Watson on campus within the next few weeks and prove to him that they have a spot for him, then they can win out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Am I wrong to think Gordon and Thatch is a good enough 2018. If the transfers don't grad transfer we will have an overstocked roster with Watson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: Am I wrong to think Gordon and Thatch is a good enough 2018. If the transfers don't grad transfer we will have an overstocked roster with Watson Yes you are wrong. A team that wants to win NCAA games and go deep in the tournament needs as much talent as possible. So many things can happen - transfers, injuries, busts - that you never stop recruiting the best players to fit what you want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: Am I wrong to think Gordon and Thatch is a good enough 2018. If the transfers don't grad transfer we will have an overstocked roster with Watson Last I checked, you recruit players not just for one year but for their entire 4 year career. Watson would be a great get, even if he only plays 10-15 minutes his freshman year and 30 minutes thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 hour ago, wgstl said: 3 national tournaments, 3 regional tournaments. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 I'd be shocked if Watson came here. I've never seen any evidence that he wants to come here. Every local kid that comes here gives us some indication that playing for his local team is something that's important to him. Despite him holding a SLU offer for almost 3 years, we've never heard that from Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 42 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: Am I wrong to think Gordon and Thatch is a good enough 2018. If the transfers don't grad transfer we will have an overstocked roster with Watson So you'd rather give the scholarship and the roster spot to a worse player? Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: I'd be shocked if Watson came here. I've never seen any evidence that he wants to come here. Every local kid that comes here gives us some indication that playing for his local team is something that's important to him. Despite him holding a SLU offer for almost 3 years, we've never heard that from Watson. I agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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