slufan13 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Carter sucks. I'd rather throw our freshmen in there and see what they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Even the people who said they preferred McBroom would rather have two junior mcnugget guards than one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't trust mcbroom as far as I could throw him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 That's not what Majerus thought about Carter when he recruited him. I like this team and the freshmen but they need experience as a unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 That's not what Majerus thought No disrespect to Majerus, but he isn't right on every single player. He also said Manning had the best chance at the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Agree with a lot in the this thread. Keith Carter stinks. Did we also miss Dustin McGuire's three point shot in our loss in the NCAAs to Louisville? Give me a break. In regards to McBroom, it seems like basketball is his 3rd or 4th priority. I hope that the freshman are challenging him for minutes come conference season time. And good lord SLU72 - 16 losses. Who are they? do you think we will go 2-14 in conference or something. I have us at 20 wins...that metric doesnt mean much anymore but our recruiting has been very strong and these are not Soderberg's freshmen. Maybe I am wrong but I think this is the closest we have been to "reloading" as the BCSers do. -Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 That's not what Majerus thought about Carter when he recruited him. I like this team and the freshmen but they need experience as a unit. I felt like the loss of Carter would not hurt us much in the short-term (the past year and a half), but would hurt us this season where we could use an experienced true point guard to help with the transition. I still feel that way and while Carter would have certainly made us better this year, I don't think his presence makes us a Tourney team. As it turns out, the kid decided to be a tool. While there will be some growing pains with this year's team, the positive is that Carter's absence will speed up the development of guys like Bartley and Reynolds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 How in the world did this thread turn into a debate on Keith Carter? The guy averaged 5.7 ppg and 2.3 apg. last year for Valpo. Not exactly earth shattering numbers and certainly not a difference maker on this team. Agree with SLU_Nick, not sure how anyone could predict 16 losses on this schedule and call themselves a realist. Pessimist seems like the right description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 How in the world did this thread turn into a debate on Keith Carter? The guy averaged 5.7 ppg and 2.3 apg. last year for Valpo. Not exactly earth shattering numbers and certainly not a difference maker on this team. Agree with SLU_Nick, not sure how anyone could predict 16 losses on this schedule and call themselves a realist. Pessimist seems like the right description. We never go on tangents on this board, do we? I predicted the board dynamic would really shift following last season as we head into a transitional year - the optimists vs. the pessimists. I'm undecided at the moment, but should quickly pick a camp after the first game or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 SIU W @ISU L TA&M-CC W NCA&T W MSU L TCU/BU W RU W @WSU L SDSU W SIUE W UTPA W VMNT W VAND WURI W @GW L @DAV W DUQ W @DAY L VCU L @GMU L UMASS LSJU W @FORD W DAY W @URI L @VCU L LAS W @DUQ L GMU W SBU L @RICH L 18-13 (8-10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Anyone who says we will have a below .500 record is not being "realistic" at all. Our non conference schedule isn't even remotely close to being "strong"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 A lot of people think that Vermont game is going to be really hard. Just at a quick glance, it looks like they lost more than us from last year(Graduated all 5 starters and 6 seniors). I don't know much about any of those smaller schools so am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Vermont and Vanderbilt are the only two opponents on the home non-con schedule that figure to be remotely decent. Seems reasonable to expect a loss in one. I was not impressed with Vanderbilt last year and really don't know much of anything about Vermont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUMedBilliken15 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't see how everyone is predicting a win against Vanderbilt. I know it is a home game, but seriously we almost lost last year and we have lost almost every major piece from last year. The sophmores may be better than expected but our recruits are not likely to be as good as Vanderbilt's. Their recruiting class is ranked #28 by espn. Not great, but better than ours. I really think most people commenting on this thread are too optimistic (which typically never happens on this board...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Non-conference: Losses to Vandy, Wichita, and Indiana State (9-3 w/o Rockhurst) Conference wins: @Davidson, Duquense, @GMU, UMass, St. Joe, @Fordham, Dayton, Lasalle, @Duquense, St. Bonaventure (10-8) 19-11 without Rockhurst. Some very tough games in A-10 play, but we kind of expect that by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't see how everyone is predicting a win against Vanderbilt. I know it is a home game, but seriously we almost lost last year and we have lost almost every major piece from last year. The sophmores may be better than expected but our recruits are not likely to be as good as Vanderbilt's. Their recruiting class is ranked #28 by espn. Not great, but better than ours. I really think most people commenting on this thread are too optimistic (which typically never happens on this board...) Vanderbilt is an almost identical team just with slightly better-rated recruits coming in. The game will be a battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't see how everyone is predicting a win against Vanderbilt. I know it is a home game, but seriously we almost lost last year and we have lost almost every major piece from last year. The sophmores may be better than expected but our recruits are not likely to be as good as Vanderbilt's. Their recruiting class is ranked #28 by espn. Not great, but better than ours. I really think most people commenting on this thread are too optimistic (which typically never happens on this board...) Lots of teams almost lose at their stupid court. I agree that it'll be a hard game though. I'm counting that as a loss in my prediction of 20 wins. I understand people not wanting to be optimistic before they see anything. Typically I'd be the same way, but I've heard a lot of positive things from multiple reliable sources so I'm expecting a decent season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I tried to squeeze out a 20th win, but not quite sure. I hope that soon 20 is the baseline for wins every year. #progressisgood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Vermont should be an interesting team. They have a CBC kid (Pierson) on the team that was hurt last year so I wonder if the SLU series is in part for him. I hope they keep the series going because Welmer's HS teammate Speidl (mentioned in the recruiting threads) is Vermont's big recruit for next year. I have no idea how good Vermont is going to be this year but they did play Carleton (ONT) about a month ago and lost. They play St. Joe's in November so that will be an indicator of how good they are. They have a few nagging injuries from the offseason. Trae Bell-Haynes is apparently a freshman with a lot of scoring ability (but turnover prone I guess as well). Dre Wills is supposedly a lot better this year than last and is good defender. Vermont is good to have on the schedule as they usually win 20+ games but yet are beatable. I say they play in Burlington every other year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Non-conference: Losses to Vandy, Wichita, and Indiana State (9-3 w/o Rockhurst) Conference wins: @Davidson, Duquense, @GMU, UMass, St. Joe, @Fordham, Dayton, Lasalle, @Duquense, St. Bonaventure (10-8) 19-11 without Rockhurst. Some very tough games in A-10 play, but we kind of expect that by now. Interesting combo on GMU. You pick us to win on the road to them but lose to them here at home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Interesting combo on GMU. You pick us to win on the road to them but lose to them here at home? I think I missed the GMU home game altogether. That would be 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 I think I missed the GMU home game altogether. That would be 20. You still have a little reviewing to do. You have 31 games (20-11) and we only play 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 No prediction .... too many questions. 1) Are Manning and Glaze who we've come to know or is there some "Summer" of something that has miraculously busted that trend? 2) How much rust on Ash Yacoubou? And is he more than the 2 ppg scorer he was at Nova or a bust as a four-star kid out of high school? 3) Can McBroom be a point guard and if so, who does he involve? 4) How decent are the sophomores? Really? 5) Do the freshmen contribute much more meaningfully and consistently than last year's freshmen? 6) Who scores on this team and how? 7) Can this team win on the road? Can't wait ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Taj Mahal 79, I have a lot of the same questions. Remember, the situation year with a class of FR that turned out to be one of SLUs finest and coached by the great RM we got 12 Ws. Now, granted we have 2 SRs on this team, a small JR, and a questionable transfer. The SOPHs, too my way of thinking, are almost as questionable as the FR based on their lack of mpg last year. We all want to be pleasantly surprised as this team's like one of those grab bags you bought at fairs, you don't know what you're buying but you're hoping it's the one that's full of the good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I will say I think if McBroom is still playing starter minutes by the end of the year, this season won't be going how I hoped it would. I just don't see him at a strong PG in the A10. More like a 15-20 mpg guy off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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