SluSignGuy Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUMS81 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Wish you well, Rashad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I am more excited about having open spots for Ford to fill in the transfer market than I am about players 10-13 on our depth chart. Be patient and see who we bring in. HenryB likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Also, all the best in the future to Strickland, Lorentsson, and Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Also, I don’t think the transfers out are done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, cgeldmacher said: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I am more excited about having open spots for Ford to fill in the transfer market than I am about players 10-13 on our depth chart. Be patient and see who we bring in. Agreed. If replacing spots 10-13 results in a single Bess, Isabell, Okoro, Foreman, or Linssen it's worth the turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, Compton said: Agreed. If replacing spots 10-13 results in a single Bess, Isabell, Okoro, Foreman, or Linssen it's worth the turnover. Let us not forget Williams was one of these guys. A rare miss in the portal for TFord and co Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, Littlebill said: Let us not forget Williams was one of these guys. A rare miss in the portal for TFord and co Not sure what you're saying there. Whether due to a "situation," injury, "fit", or simply performance, Coach Ford has had some misses in the portal. Graves, Henriquez, Santos, Anthony, Wiley, and Williams all come to mind. Weaver could go either way. But a perfect batting average shouldn't be expected. I was just saying that if churning the last 3-4 guys at the end of the bench results in one that makes a significant contribution, whether for one season or a few, and whether as a stats leader (e.g., Bess) or work horse (e.g., Linssen or Foreman), then it's worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Compton said: Not sure what you're saying there. Whether due to a "situation," injury, "fit", or simply performance, Coach Ford has had some misses in the portal. Graves, Henriquez, Santos, Anthony, Wiley, and Williams all come to mind. Weaver could go either way. But a perfect batting average shouldn't be expected. I was just saying that if churning the last 3-4 guys at the end of the bench results in one that makes a significant contribution, whether for one season or a few, and whether as a stats leader (e.g., Bess) or work horse (e.g., Linssen or Foreman), then it's worth it. Those first 4 you list never got to play so how can you call them misses. Many believe that if they had been able to play we would have had a very successful team. RiseOfTheBillikens and billiken_roy like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlow Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The MO for Ford is to play a max of 7 to 8 players a game. He is not alone, plenty of other coaches have the same MO. However, there are plenty of coaches, like Leonard Hamilton, who trust in their recruiting and play 10 or more in each game. They don’t have angst over injuries or foul trouble that the others do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, cheeseman said: Those first 4 you list never got to play so how can you call them misses. Many believe that if they had been able to play we would have had a very successful team. Giving a scholarship to someone that doesn't play a single minute for the team is an unqualified miss. Individuals' personal beliefs of how things may have played out in an alternate universe don't help win basketball games. Also, Anthony got to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Compton said: Giving a scholarship to someone that doesn't play a single minute for the team is an unqualified miss. Individuals' personal beliefs of how things may have played out in an alternate universe don't help win basketball games. Also, Anthony got to play. You are right Anthony did play and I don't think Ford was the one who offered him but calling someone a miss who got held out for non basketball reasons is not fair also. A coach evaluates and offers the player on what skill level they they think the player has and can contribute to the overall team's success. If they don't get to play for non basketball reasons doesn't mean the coach did not evaluate the player correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compton Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, cheeseman said: You are right Anthony did play and I don't think Ford was the one who offered him but calling someone a miss who got held out for non basketball reasons is not fair also. A coach evaluates and offers the player on what skill level they they think the player has and can contribute to the overall team's success. If they don't get to play for non basketball reasons doesn't mean the coach did not evaluate the player correctly. Ford is responsible for his staff's recruiting. The buck stops with him. If Van Macon or Will Bailey personally "gave an offer" it's ultimately Coach Ford that signs off on it. Some skilled recruits are going to work out (Bess, Foreman, Linssenn, etc...), others not at all (Santos, Graves, etc...). There will be hits and misses across recruiting classes. I'd be interested to hear why Santos of Henriquez were successful recruits for Ford if you're of that opinion. If a coach "evaluates a player correctly" does that mean they're a successful recruit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010andBeyond Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Marlow said: The MO for Ford is to play a max of 7 to 8 players a game. He is not alone, plenty of other coaches have the same MO. However, there are plenty of coaches, like Leonard Hamilton, who trust in their recruiting and play 10 or more in each game. They don’t have angst over injuries or foul trouble that the others do. Jim Crews also had a 10+ man rotation the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, cheeseman said: You are right Anthony did play and I don't think Ford was the one who offered him but calling someone a miss who got held out for non basketball reasons is not fair also. A coach evaluates and offers the player on what skill level they they think the player has and can contribute to the overall team's success. If they don't get to play for non basketball reasons doesn't mean the coach did not evaluate the player correctly. -what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Cowboy II said: -what? First of all I said "I think" which usually means not sure so I am not certain what your confusion is. I thought he was a Crews fall recruit and Ford inherited the NLI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Compton said: Ford is responsible for his staff's recruiting. The buck stops with him. If Van Macon or Will Bailey personally "gave an offer" it's ultimately Coach Ford that signs off on it. Some skilled recruits are going to work out (Bess, Foreman, Linssenn, etc...), others not at all (Santos, Graves, etc...). There will be hits and misses across recruiting classes. I'd be interested to hear why Santos of Henriquez were successful recruits for Ford if you're of that opinion. If a coach "evaluates a player correctly" does that mean they're a successful recruit? No you misunderstood me - I was not saying an assistant offered him without Ford's knowledge. I thought he was a fall NLI signee of Crews and Ford inherited him - but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 16 hours ago, Compton said: Not sure what you're saying there. Whether due to a "situation," injury, "fit", or simply performance, Coach Ford has had some misses in the portal. Graves, Henriquez, Santos, Anthony, Wiley, and Williams all come to mind. Weaver could go either way. But a perfect batting average shouldn't be expected. I was just saying that if churning the last 3-4 guys at the end of the bench results in one that makes a significant contribution, whether for one season or a few, and whether as a stats leader (e.g., Bess) or work horse (e.g., Linssen or Foreman), then it's worth it. Without getting into a debate about Sit 2, Anthony was very transparently an end of the bench guy and Wiley certainly underwhelmed but hit what could be argued as the biggest shot of the Ford era (which is a yikes of a statement). I think the staff bet on Wiley getting healthier and he just never did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Are we talking Rashed Anthony? His one year with us was 2017-18 which was Ford's second year. There were no holdovers from the [dead] era at that point concerning scholarships offered. Anthony was Ford's first foray into the transfer portal as I recall. Anthony played in 32 of 33 games that year --- although there was nothign memorable about any of them. I'm surprised he got 7.8 mpg as an average. Wiley and Isabell came the next year and Anthony was gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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